Threading; was: Re: Authentication for telnet.

2019-10-09 Thread peter
DISCLAIMER & WARNING: Threading may still be incorrect. Tempting as this message might be, if incorrect threading upsets you please stop reading. =8~) To my understanding In-Reply-To and References were added to the earlier message correctly but the list server put them in the Web b

Re: Message threading.

2019-10-02 Thread David Wright
t have deleted the message. Using > > tools available, in Debian or otherwise, can you reply with correct > > threading? > > Well, besides the aspect of software availablilty, it is a a matter of > knowing the message id of the mail to which you want to refer. > Then yo

Re: Message threading.

2019-10-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
se, can you reply with correct > threading? Well, besides the aspect of software availablilty, it is a a matter of knowing the message id of the mail to which you want to refer. Then you have to put it into a "In-Reply-To:" header or a "References:" header. The message ids

Re: Message threading.

2019-10-02 Thread Celejar
ols available, in Debian or otherwise, can you reply with correct > threading? If so, please outline the procedure. Under the message, you'll see a section headed "Reply to:". Clicking on one of the links in that section (assuming your browser is correctly configured to op

Message threading.

2019-10-02 Thread peter
Suppose you read a message in the Web based archive and it is no longer in your mailer. Either you weren't subscribed when the message was sent or you were subscribed but have deleted the message. Using tools available, in Debian or otherwise, can you reply with correct threading?

Re: Email client; was: Re: Threading.

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 06:15:42 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Reco > Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:26:13 +0300 > > In short, please consider using another e-mail client. > > I compose the reply from the debian-user Web page. I don't know of a > MUA capable of reading a page and composing

Email client; was: Re: Threading.

2019-07-29 Thread peter
From: Reco Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:26:13 +0300 > In short, please consider using another e-mail client. I compose the reply from the debian-user Web page. I don't know of a MUA capable of reading a page and composing a reply to it. The boilerplate for a reply to a debian page is composed wit

Re: Threading; was Re: HTTP shimmed to HTTPS

2019-07-23 Thread Linux-Fan
pe...@easthope.ca writes: * From: Reco recovery...@enotuniq.net * Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 17:35:27 +0300 > You're breaking threading. Just a friendly note. I've been adding References manually. By "breaking" do you refer to omission of older refere

Re: Threading; was Re: HTTP shimmed to HTTPS

2019-07-23 Thread David Wright
On Tue 23 Jul 2019 at 08:56:36 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > In future I'll make more effort with the references. Beyond 3 or 4 it > can be tedious. If you're typing (or pasting) the references, I would just add the In-Reply-To instead. That way, you can Cut/Copy the original's Messa

Re: Threading; was Re: HTTP shimmed to HTTPS

2019-07-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:28:50 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: Hello Greg, >We may be seeing different symptoms as a result of *whatever* Peter is >doing, depending on how each individual mail transport agent and each >mail user agent deals with the incoming mess. Indeed. I looked up his MUA (Oberon,

Re: Threading; was Re: HTTP shimmed to HTTPS

2019-07-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 05:22:44PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:16:31 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Hello Greg, > > >You need to add "In-Reply-To:" as well. And stop doing whatever it is > >you're doing that puts NUL bytes in your "* From:" lines. Or simply > >drop

Re: Threading; was Re: HTTP shimmed to HTTPS

2019-07-23 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 08:56:36AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > * From: Reco ?recovery...@enotuniq.net? > * Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 17:35:27 +0300 > > You're breaking threading. Just a friendly note. > > I've been adding References manually.

Re: Threading; was Re: HTTP shimmed to HTTPS

2019-07-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:16:31 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: Hello Greg, >You need to add "In-Reply-To:" as well. And stop doing whatever it is >you're doing that puts NUL bytes in your "* From:" lines. Or simply >drop those lines altogethe I /think/ they're tab characters. At least, that see

Re: Threading; was Re: HTTP shimmed to HTTPS

2019-07-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 08:56:36AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > * From: Reco > > You're breaking threading. Just a friendly note. > > I've been adding References manually. You need to add "In-Reply-To:" as well. And stop doing whatever it is you&#

Threading; was Re: HTTP shimmed to HTTPS

2019-07-23 Thread peter
* From: Reco

Re: Proper threading [was: big-cursor DOA in Stretch]

2019-06-20 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 19/06/2019 22:22, bw wrote: > In-Reply-To: > Just so you know, this line has to be in the headers for it to work. You're sending it as the first line of the body (after the blank line that separates headers from the body). This only pollutes the message, and still breaks the thread. -- LILO,

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-10-31 Thread none
On Sun, 29 Oct 2017, none wrote: So is there an example ocaml code that can trigger the bug ? Read the first referece (the INRIA ocaml bug report) throughoutly. It has been public since day one. And read all references in the updates I sent to that thread too, for good measure. It is not

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-10-30 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/29/2017 01:17 AM, none wrote: So is there an example ocaml code that can trigger the bug ? Debian Linux reveals Intel Skylake and Kaby Lake processors have broken hyper-threading http://www.zdnet.com/article/debian-linux-reveals-intel-skylake-kaby-lake-processors-have-broken-hyper

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-10-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 29 Oct 2017, none wrote: > So is there an example ocaml code that can trigger the bug ? Read the first referece (the INRIA ocaml bug report) throughoutly. It has been public since day one. And read all references in the updates I sent to that thread too, for good measure. It is not like

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-10-29 Thread none
So is there an example ocaml code that can trigger the bug ?

Re: threading, was Re: DHCP server that itself gets an IP address by DHCP

2017-08-24 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 08:25:16 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 12:30:35 (+0300), Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > In-Reply-To: <20170824074515.y4z2ummdigk2fcbn@kazuki.local> > > > [...] > > If you type: > > : > set edit_headers > > you should get the heade

threading, was Re: DHCP server that itself gets an IP address by DHCP

2017-08-24 Thread David Wright
On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 12:30:35 (+0300), Reco wrote: > Hi. > > In-Reply-To: <20170824074515.y4z2ummdigk2fcbn@kazuki.local> > [...] If you type: : set edit_headers you should get the headers included in your composition window, and you can then stick the In-Reply-To: amongst its pe

Re: Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake Hyper-threading bug update

2017-07-24 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
Hi Henrique, * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2017-07-23 14:56 -0300]: > TL;DR: Intel has issued public microcode updates in 2017-07-07, fixing > the hyper-threading errata on every affected processor. These updates > have been included in the stable and oldstable point releases from

Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake Hyper-threading bug update

2017-07-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
TL;DR: Intel has issued public microcode updates in 2017-07-07, fixing the hyper-threading errata on every affected processor. These updates have been included in the stable and oldstable point releases from 2017-07-22. The microcode updates in the "intel-microcode" packages wit

Re: Sound issue WAS: Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-27 Thread deloptes
John Elliot V wrote: > KDE -> System Settings -> Multimedia (Hardware) -> Audio and Video -> > Audio Hardware Setup I was going to say - it is just KDE :D - crap

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
odels. > > Attached, you will find a perl script that can help detect if your > system is affected or not. Many thanks to Uwe Kleine-König for > suggesting, and writing this script. Uwe Kleine-König was kind enough to update the perl script to fix the broken hyper-threading detectio

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
odels. > > Attached, you will find a perl script that can help detect if your > system is affected or not. Many thanks to Uwe Kleine-König for > suggesting, and writing this script. Uwe Kleine-König was kind enough to update the perl script to fix the broken hyper-threading detectio

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
ion of the "7th gen. Core Family specification update" (which is listed in the references section). Please note that the "7th gen. Core i7 X-series processors" (Kaby Lake-X) both support hyper-threading and share the processor signature (family, model number and stepping) with

Sound issue WAS: Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-26 Thread John Elliot V
On 27/06/17 03:16, John Elliot V wrote: > Hmm. I re-enabled hyper-threading (to test) and sound didn't come back. After a number of false starts I was able to restore audio by: KDE -> System Settings -> Multimedia (Hardware) -> Audio and Video -> Audio Hardware Setup

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-26 Thread Larry Fletcher
HEDT), their related server processors (such as Xeon v5 and Xeon v6), as well as select Intel Pentium processor models. TL;DR: unfixed Skylake and Kaby Lake processors could, in some situations, dangerously misbehave when hyper-threading is enabled. Disable hyper-threading immediately in BIOS/UEFI to wor

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-26 Thread John Elliot V
On 27/06/17 02:47, John Elliot V wrote: > I disabled hyper-threading in my BIOS in response to this advisory (I > have an i7-7700K). Now I get weird graphical artifacts in drop-down > lists in KDE (they flash between black and white background) and sound > has stopped working on my

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-26 Thread John Elliot V
I disabled hyper-threading in my BIOS in response to this advisory (I have an i7-7700K). Now I get weird graphical artifacts in drop-down lists in KDE (they flash between black and white background) and sound has stopped working on my system. Can anyone guess why that might be happening? I might

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Minor update on the issue: The check command provided in the advisory to test for hyper-threading doesn't work: it will always report hyper-theading as enabled. A better command is provided below. Note: this also means the perl script will give some false-positives. I apologise fo

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
For the record: the email with the perl script doesn't contain malware. The "malware" alert came from an extremely badly configured system that violates every best practice in the field: it sends email to every original recipient (and not just to local users), and it FORGES its headers to look lik

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > This warning advisory is relevant for users of systems with the Intel > processors code-named "Skylake" and "Kaby Lake". These are: the 6th and > 7th generation Intel Core processors (desktop, embedded, mobile and > HEDT), their related ser

Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
rocode is new enough\n"; } elsif ($hyperthreading ne "on") { print "but hyper threading is off, which works around the problem\n"; } else { print "you should install the latest intel-microcode\n"; } } else { print "You may

[WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
), as well as select Intel Pentium processor models. TL;DR: unfixed Skylake and Kaby Lake processors could, in some situations, dangerously misbehave when hyper-threading is enabled. Disable hyper-threading immediately in BIOS/UEFI to work around the problem. Read this advisory for instruc

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
Outlook that > started a new "conversation". Outlook "conversations" grouped by > subject is a poor substitute for message threading. Are you sure it > is really threads and not conversations? Yes, that's exactly what I meant and I prefer real threading anytime.

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-06 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140804_2358+0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 03 aug 14, 13:28:06, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > > P.S. I still think digests are less desirable because I don't see a > > way to view the discussion in a threaded view. Threaded views have > > been around for so long that I couldn't live without

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-06 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 8/5/2014 10:24 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20140805_0004+0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Lu, 04 aug 14, 08:52:17, Paul E Condon wrote: >>> >>> I've spent some time recently, trying to use the Gmail browser >>> interface. I would never switch to it from Mutt, excepting only if >>> Microsoft d

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-05 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140805_0004+0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 04 aug 14, 08:52:17, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > I've spent some time recently, trying to use the Gmail browser > > interface. I would never switch to it from Mutt, excepting only if > > Microsoft does a corporate take-over of Debian (They are

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-05 Thread Bob Proulx
anged the subject then in Outlook that started a new "conversation". Outlook "conversations" grouped by subject is a poor substitute for message threading. Are you sure it is really threads and not conversations? Gmail also only supports the same group by subject model. Howeve

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 August 2014 21:58:36 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > I'm not very familiar with Gmail's interface Lucky you. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debi

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 04 aug 14, 08:52:17, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I've spent some time recently, trying to use the Gmail browser > interface. I would never switch to it from Mutt, excepting only if > Microsoft does a corporate take-over of Debian (They are both > corporations under the Law, and under the Law,

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 03 aug 14, 13:28:06, Bob Proulx wrote: > > P.S. I still think digests are less desirable because I don't see a > way to view the discussion in a threaded view. Threaded views have > been around for so long that I couldn't live without them. Of course > Gmail and Outlook users don't have t

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-04 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140803_1328-0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > I used a variety of mailers back then and I don't recall which ones > > handled digests nicely and which did not. > > I just tested mutt and digests and mutt handles message digests quite > well. And furthermore because the Debian l

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-04 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Dom, 03 Ago 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: The inability of people to deal with digest messages these days is the main reason I think digests should be removed as a mailing list option. +1 to that. I'd also like a filter that rejects mails that have Re: (and variations) in the Subject and no In-

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Bob Proulx wrote: > I used a variety of mailers back then and I don't recall which ones > handled digests nicely and which did not. I just tested mutt and digests and mutt handles message digests quite well. And furthermore because the Debian lists includes the individual messages as MIME attemen

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-03 Thread Bob Proulx
eplace with the desired re: Should > not this be OK. It is not okay because you have not set In-Reply-To nor References properly. That breaks threading. > Or is there some header or marker I should be hitting as well? The inability of people to deal with digest messages these days is the main

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 12:38:16 -0400 AW wrote: Hello AW, >lists. So, I don't know what I'm doing with regards to top/bottom >postings, quoting, etc... There are many good reasons why a particular Based on that and what you go on to say, it's obvious you're willing to learn about what is or isn'

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-03 Thread AW
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:41:17 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: >Quite an achievement, given that >99.% of MUAs quote correctly "out of the box". I'm fairly old to Debian. I run a few email servers. I know the ins and outs of lots of things. And yet, I've rarely posted to mailing lists. So, I don

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 10:55:00 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: Hello Steve, >Yes, but *not* changing the Subject is an atrocity. I've often thought >of piping everything with digest type Subjects to /dev/null. Another >atrocity is these guys who leave the entire digest intact when replying. I tend to agre

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:42:53 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:14:20 +0300 > David Baron wrote: > > Hello David, > > >Or is there some header or marker I should be hitting as well? > > Reference and/or Reply-To headers. The digest, depending on /exactly/ > how it as construct

Re: Threading using digest and KMail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-07-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 July 2014 08:14:20 David Baron wrote: > I do not understand the difference. If I hit reply, so I get the title of > the digest which I replace with the desired re: Should not this be OK. No. It gives rise to a new thread, with the digest data, which is not the same as the he

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-07-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:26:04 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: Hello The, >(References: and In-Reply-To:, surely?) You are, of course, right. My brain was waaay ahead of my fingers at the time. My apologies for any confusion caused. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-07-30 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/30/2014 04:42 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:14:20 +0300 David Baron > wrote: > > Hello David, > >> Or is there some header or marker I should be hitting as well? > > Reference and/or Reply-To headers. (References: and In

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-07-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:14:20 +0300 David Baron wrote: Hello David, >Or is there some header or marker I should be hitting as well? Reference and/or Reply-To headers. The digest, depending on /exactly/ how it as constructed and /exactly/ how you reply, won't necessarily carry the right headers

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-07-30 Thread David Baron
On Wednesday 30 July 2014 02:52:38 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > > When you reply threading is broken. Surely you can see that. Could be > > kmail of course. > > Replying from the digest breaks threads. I eschew KDE 4, so I don't know > abo

Re: cpuid : Hyper threading siblings: 16?

2012-11-08 Thread Philip Ashmore
On 08/11/12 22:45, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. November 2012 schrieb Philip Ashmore: So I think there is a bug in cpuid. Reported as "cupid reports wrong hyper-threading count". http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=692799 Regards, Philip Ashmo

Re: cpuid : Hyper threading siblings: 16?

2012-11-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
; > Regarding the subject of you mail: > > > > Thats in total 8 siblings. > > > > So you divide 8 / 4 and get 2 siblings per core. I never seen any > > hyperthreading with more than 2 siblings per core so far. > > > > Ciao, > > I guess I wasn&#x

Re: cpuid : Hyper threading siblings: 16?

2012-11-08 Thread Philip Ashmore
ring: " Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz" CLFLUSH instruction cache line size: 8 Initial APIC ID: 3 Hyper threading siblings: 16 Feature flags bfebfbff: FPUFloating Point Unit VMEVirtual 8086 Mode Enhancements DE Debugging Extensions PSEPage Size Extensions

Re: cpuid : Hyper threading siblings: 16?

2012-11-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 8. November 2012 schrieb Philip Ashmore: > But cat /proc/cpuinfo says: > ... > processor : 0 > vendor_id : GenuineIntel > cpu family : 6 > model : 42 > model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz > stepping: 7 > microcode : 0x2

Re: cpuid : Hyper threading siblings: 16?

2012-11-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 8. November 2012 schrieb Philip Ashmore: > But cat /proc/cpuinfo says: > ... > processor : 0 > vendor_id : GenuineIntel > cpu family : 6 > model : 42 > model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz > stepping: 7 > microcode : 0x2

cpuid : Hyper threading siblings: 16?

2012-11-08 Thread Philip Ashmore
But cat /proc/cpuinfo says: ... processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 42 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz stepping: 7 microcode : 0x28 cpu MHz : 2201.000 cache size : 6144 KB physical id :

Re (2): Header fields required for threading in lists.debian.org.

2012-05-31 Thread peter
From: Camaleon Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:25:20 + (UTC) > "http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=426149"; > Most probably my Pan version (0.132) still has that bug. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322#section-3.6 states, "The only required header fields are the origination date f

Re: Header fields required for threading in lists.debian.org; was Dying Iceweasel.

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 31 May 2012 08:40:38 -0800, peter wrote: > CamaleA3n, > > From: Camaleon > Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:11:05 + (UTC) >> Let's see how this post goes out (I've just tweaked a setting within >> Pan). > > According to the principle "avoid redundant information", leaving your > mailer con

Header fields required for threading in lists.debian.org; was Dying Iceweasel.

2012-05-31 Thread peter
CamaleA3n, From: Camaleon Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:11:05 + (UTC) > Let's see how this post goes out (I've just tweaked a setting within Pan). According to the principle "avoid redundant information", leaving your mailer configured to not send In-reply-to is preferable. Also helpful to

Re: [OT] Using Threading Properly [was: Debian as a DDNS Server]

2012-05-30 Thread Camaleón
t: > > 1. It's not a reply to the old thread. 2. It's not related to the old > thread in any way. 3. Messes up threading in email clients. All of these good suggestions are resumed and printed for further reference in these two links: http://www.debian.org/Maili

Re: [OT] Using Threading Properly [was: Debian as a DDNS Server]

2012-05-28 Thread Lisi
On Monday 28 May 2012 19:21:03 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Unfortunately MS Outlook[1] > threads only by subject, which is very annoying when the subject gets > even the slightest change. Gmail too. Which also messes up threading by breaking it when it shouldn't. Lisi -- To UNSU

Re: [OT] Using Threading Properly [was: Debian as a DDNS Server]

2012-05-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 28 mai 12, 18:47:44, rjc wrote: > 3. Messes up threading in email clients. ... in *inteligent* email clients maybe :) Unfortunately MS Outlook[1] threads only by subject, which is very annoying when the subject gets even the slightest change. [1] having to use it is one of the unpleas

[OT] Using Threading Properly [was: Debian as a DDNS Server]

2012-05-28 Thread rjc
to the old thread in any way. 3. Messes up threading in email clients. Thank you, -- rjc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120528174743.ga3...@linuxstuff.pl

Re (2): message threading

2011-08-16 Thread peasthope
* From: lee * Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:59:40 +0200 > [References] go back to beginnings of subthreads at > least. > With only the In-Reply-To: header, threads would be broken ... In http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists I've added a section "Message Thr

Re: Re: posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-27 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 03:54:51PM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Test reply from link in archive at: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/06/msg01787.html > > I want to see if the reply ends up in the thread properly, I think > it should as the html link from the online archive is th

Re: posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-25 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
ink it >> should as the html link from the online archive is this: >> >> >> > href="mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org?In-Reply-To=<8db18074-5ae4-4e07-aac5-c41967b5e...@queernet.org>&Subject=Re:%20Re: >> posting (was: Threading)">debian-use

Re: posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
his: > > > href="mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org?In-Reply-To=<8db18074-5ae4-4e07-aac5-c41967b5e...@queernet.org>&Subject=Re:%20Re: > posting (was: Threading)">debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Threads fine in Icedove, Kmail, and on http://lists.deb

Re: Re: posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-24 Thread Andrew McGlashan
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Re: Threading

2011-06-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/06/11 02:38, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:04:24 +1000 > Scott Ferguson wrote: > > ... > >> If someone feels the need to subscribe to the "digest" version - which >> is not one "bit" smaller than all the individual messages - it's no > > It's not? Aren't many of the many headers

Re: Threading

2011-06-24 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:04:24 +1000 Scott Ferguson wrote: ... > If someone feels the need to subscribe to the "digest" version - which > is not one "bit" smaller than all the individual messages - it's no It's not? Aren't many of the many headers not repeated per each digest element? Celejar --

Re: posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-22 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:01 AM, lee wrote: > Hm, I wonder why anyone is going to the lengths of replying to digest > messages rather than just subscribing to the list ... So they don't need to get hundreds of separate messages?! Most people don't treat a digest as separate from a list, just an al

posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-22 Thread lee
Scott Ferguson writes: > On 22/06/11 21:53, Camaleón wrote: >>> On 21/06/11 23:29, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:21:01 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > But at least you did not reply to a digest. Sure. I'd say digests are for reading more than replying. > > And I

Re: Threading

2011-06-22 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
web mail interfaces) that also do not set threading headers. -- You will lose an important tape file. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debi

Re: Threading

2011-06-22 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Ter, 21 Jun 2011, wrote: So if they preceed the To: field, they are omitted. This time they are between To: and Subject:. You'd have to read the RFCs to see if they say anything about that. I don't recall any requirement of header order (except for Received headers), but I've never read

Re: Threading

2011-06-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/06/11 21:53, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:49:05 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> On 21/06/11 23:29, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:21:01 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > (...) > But at least you did not reply to a digest. >>> >>> Sure. I'd say digests

Re: Threading

2011-06-22 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:49:05 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 21/06/11 23:29, Camaleón wrote: >> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:21:01 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: (...) >>> But at least you did not reply to a digest. >> >> Sure. I'd say digests are for reading more than replying. >> >> >> >

Re: Threading (was: QCAD Pro in Squeeze)

2011-06-22 Thread Alberto Luaces
ere are some MUAs that can extract individual messages >> from digests. Emacs gnus does this. > > But does it set proper References headers so as not to break > threading, or does it just strip unnecessary quoted text and sets a > proper Subject header? (Which are good things, but

Re: Threading

2011-06-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/06/11 23:29, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:21:01 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > >> On Seg, 20 Jun 2011, wrote: >>> [To see how it works, I've tried to include all the References in the >>> header in this message. If Chuck or Lee complains I'll know there's an >>> error. ]

Re (2): Threading

2011-06-21 Thread peasthope
From: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:21:01 -0300 > It has not References or In-Reply-To headers. So if they preceed the To: field, they are omitted. This time they are between To: and Subject:. > As someone said, your MUA should do that, not you. If it doesn't, > consider a

Re: Threading (was: QCAD Pro in Squeeze)

2011-06-21 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
t set proper References headers so as not to break threading, or does it just strip unnecessary quoted text and sets a proper Subject header? (Which are good things, but not sufficient.) -- I've already got a female to worry about. Her name is the Enterprise. -- Kirk, &quo

Re: Threading (was: QCAD Pro in Squeeze)

2011-06-21 Thread Alberto Luaces
Camaleón writes: >> But at least you did not reply to a digest. > > Sure. I'd say digests are for reading more than replying. In addition, there are some MUAs that can extract individual messages from digests. Emacs gnus does this. -- Alberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@l

Re: Threading (was: QCAD Pro in Squeeze)

2011-06-21 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:21:01 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Seg, 20 Jun 2011, wrote: >> [To see how it works, I've tried to include all the References in the >> header in this message. If Chuck or Lee complains I'll know there's an >> error. ] > > This message broke the thread. It has

Re: Threading (was: QCAD Pro in Squeeze)

2011-06-21 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Seg, 20 Jun 2011, wrote: [To see how it works, I've tried to include all the References in the header in this message. If Chuck or Lee complains I'll know there's an error. ] This message broke the thread. It has not References or In-Reply-To headers. As someone said, your MUA should do t

Re: message threading; was Re (3): QCAD Pro in Squeeze

2011-06-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:15:57 -0800, peasthope wrote: >> Would you please fix your mail client so you stop breaking the list >> threading? > > Usually I manage to set In-reply-to to the Message-id of the message > being replied to. In the Web archive, the Follow-Ups and

Re: Re (2): message threading

2011-06-19 Thread lee
yed as the top of a new >> thread. > > Yes, I intended to start a new thread on "message threading". Hence > the subject "message threading; was Re (3): QCAD Pro in Squeeze". That´s why I´m asking. I think it´s more common to use a new subject when starting

Re (2): message threading; was Re (3): QCAD Pro in Squeeze

2011-06-19 Thread peasthope
new > thread. Yes, I intended to start a new thread on "message threading". Hence the subject "message threading; was Re (3): QCAD Pro in Squeeze". Thanks, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca Shop pages http://car

Re: message threading; was Re (3): QCAD Pro in Squeeze

2011-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/19/2011 06:15 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: From a private message; From: C P Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:30:55 -0400 Would you please fix your mail client so you stop breaking the list threading? Usually I manage to set In-reply-to to the Message-id of the message being replied to

Re: message threading; was Re (3): QCAD Pro in Squeeze

2011-06-19 Thread lee
peasth...@shaw.ca writes: >>From a private message; > From: C P > Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:30:55 -0400 >> Would you please fix your mail client so you stop breaking the list >> threading? > > Usually I manage to set In-reply-to to the Message-id of the message &

message threading; was Re (3): QCAD Pro in Squeeze

2011-06-19 Thread peasthope
>From a private message; From: C P Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:30:55 -0400 > Would you please fix your mail client so you stop breaking the list > threading? Usually I manage to set In-reply-to to the Message-id of the message being replied to. In the Web archive, the Follo

Routing via an OpenVPN tunnel; was "message threading ..."

2011-02-04 Thread peasthope
From: Bob Proulx Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:12:47 -0700 > I am suggesting that you have such a complicated routing setup that it > is causing you difficulty and that you should simplify it by some > method. You listed five (5!) route commands in your configuration. Yes; addressing subnets rat

Re (3): message threading in debian lists.

2011-01-26 Thread peasthope
From: Bob Proulx Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:12:47 -0700 > And you have been having such trouble with your vpn(s). To me that is > like a house of cards. A light breeze blows it over. In order to be > more robust it needs to be simpler, less rigid, and more flexible. Iprovements in progress.

Re: Re (2): message threading in debian lists; was Re (6): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-19 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 19 January 2011 04:12:47 Bob Proulx wrote: > peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > You have a complicated setup! > > > > A complex setup. "complicated" is a verb. ... Sorry. > > Uhm... No. Complicated is an adjective. > > From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]: > >complicate

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