Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-27 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 09:20:02AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: > To make sure I understand this, what you are telling me is that a > response to a command is pulled off by the driver polling the card's > buffer? > > But incoming data is "pushed" by the card, using an IRQ? > > It does make sense

Re: Stalled modems, Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-27 Thread Hall Stevenson
> " I have an internal USR modem that goofed up when I would > dual-boot. > " Win95 would screw it up so that it would not work under > Linux. > "*No* initialization string would fix this; I had to power off the > machine to " properly reset it." I have an internal USR modem that had *no* problems

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-27 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Mike Fedyk wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 11:16:29AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: > > > > You see, the modem actually does work in the sense that you can send > > 'AT' strings to it and get 'OK''s back. > > > > It's just that it never can dial and make a connection successfully. It > > seems

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-27 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Hall Stevenson wrote: > > * Mike Fedyk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010426 15:39]: > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 11:16:29AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: > > > Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Your problem sounds like a Plug-n-Play one. A similar problem occurs > > > > with some network cards.

Stalled modems, Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-27 Thread David Wright
" I have an internal USR modem that goofed up when I would dual-boot. " Win95 would screw it up so that it would not work under Linux. *No* " initialization string would fix this; I had to power off the machine to " properly reset it." Quoting Keith G. Murphy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hall Stevenson

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-26 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 07:32:25PM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > Well, now you've went and given us more and *important* information. You > left this out originally, didn't you ?? Nonetheless, rule out a > windows-related PnP issue. > > Hall I think you've mixed me with the origional poster, plea

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-26 Thread Hall Stevenson
* Mike Fedyk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010426 15:39]: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 11:16:29AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: > > Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > > > > > > > Your problem sounds like a Plug-n-Play one. A similar problem occurs > > > with some network cards. Disable PnP on the card. Also, in you

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-26 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 11:16:29AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: > Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > > > > Your problem sounds like a Plug-n-Play one. A similar problem occurs > > with some network cards. Disable PnP on the card. Also, in your BIOS, > > disable the "PnP Operating System" option if you

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-26 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > Your problem sounds like a Plug-n-Play one. A similar problem occurs > with some network cards. Disable PnP on the card. Also, in your BIOS, > disable the "PnP Operating System" option if you have one. From what > I've read, that should read "Windows", not "PnP O/S". >

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-25 Thread Debian User Jean-Baptiste Note
Hell, I mean, all ne2k-pci that I had worked really well. They were based on realtek chipsets. BUT is your ethernet card a 100Mbps, RTL8139 one ? That one gave me real pain. >From what I could see on the various mailing lists regarding the subject, I'm far from being alone in that case, and I maile

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-25 Thread Hall Stevenson
> > So far, it seems that everyone has suggested avoiding internal > > modems and getting an external one. Why ?? If someone is > > capable of building their own PC, I'd hope they're also capable > > of reading the requirements of a modem they purchase. > I have an internal USR modem that goofed u

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-25 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > So far, it seems that everyone has suggested avoiding internal modems > and getting an external one. Why ?? If someone is capable of building > their own PC, I'd hope they're also capable of reading the requirements > of a modem they purchase. I've used two or three di

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-25 Thread W. Paul Mills
News to me! Realtek chip works fine for me. But 3com often not easy. - Original Message - From: "Debian User Jean-Baptiste Note" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:45 PM Subject: Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer > And if we come to

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-24 Thread Debian User Jean-Baptiste Note
And if we come to talk about network cards, avoid like hell the chipset realtek 8139, especially if you have a K7/VIA based motherboard. avoid like hell DFE-530TX, only if you have a K7/VIA confguration. I can tell you from experience on 3 <> computers that they either, do not run in a useable wa

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-24 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:14:52AM -0700, Denzil Kelly wrote: > If you already have an internal modem you can use it, > but if you were buying one get an external one. This > is not really that big of an issue. I was assuming > that you were building the box from scratch. One > reason to avoid inte

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-24 Thread Jeff
oh boy! the perfect deb computer huh? gimme the money and i'll build it for you. :) modem: good ol' u.s. robotics 56k external sound card: i do fine with my soundblaster live! video card: great looking with my voodoo 3 On Tuesday 24 April 2001 14:55, John and Kristy Woodill wrote: > Well i h

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-24 Thread Morgan Terry
b3 wrote: [...] > External modems have the best chance of NOT being a winmodem (I haven't seen > an external winmodem - do any exist?) - so a new buyer might be less likely I have seen external winmodems. They are usually labeled as such, though (unlike internal winmodems). > to come home with a

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-24 Thread Kevin Easton
From: "Hall Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 1:42 AM Subject: Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer > > > Well i have given up on trying to configured Windows > > > / Linux together. I can't get the hardware right

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-24 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 11:42, Hall Stevenson wrote: > IRQ3. I guess that's one benefit of an external. They > can't be PnP, can they ?? Yup. My USR 56K external is recognized as P'n'P by Windoze if it's on when I boot into that OS (sic). Cheers, Pann -- geek by nature, Linux by choice

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-24 Thread b3
> So far, it seems that everyone has suggested avoiding internal modems > and getting an external one. Why ?? If someone is capable of building > their own PC, I'd hope they're also capable of reading the requirements > of a modem they purchase. I've used two or three different *internal* > modems

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-24 Thread Denzil Kelly
If you already have an internal modem you can use it, but if you were buying one get an external one. This is not really that big of an issue. I was assuming that you were building the box from scratch. One reason to avoid internal modems is because they are a heat source and they will increase the

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-24 Thread Robert Voigt
The Voodoo 3 is worth being mentioned here. It has very good 3D support in X and they are really cheap nowadays.

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-24 Thread Hall Stevenson
> > Well i have given up on trying to configured Windows > > / Linux together. I can't get the hardware right > > and don't feel like fucking with it anymore. I > > wanna build a computer just for linux-debian. I > > know what kinda motherboard and KMD processor i > > wanna get but could someone

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-24 Thread Denzil Kelly
Sound card: Ensoniq es1371 Video card: Matrox Millennium G200, G400, or G450 modem: doesn't matter really, just make sure it's external, and make sure that is isn't a winmodem. For a guide to building a cheap linux box refer to: http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html hth ---

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-24 Thread ray p
The big question that you don't talk about is how much are you willing to spend and what flavor of Debian (stable, testing, etc) are you going to be running. The answer to this question would vary quite a bit based on that for example if money is not object and you want to run testing. Then whate

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-24 Thread D. Hoyem
Here is my two cents worth. For a Video card I have the Matrox Millenium G200 with 8MB of Mem. I have used this card with Slcakware, Mandrake and Debian. It was setup perfect on installation with Debian 2.2r.2. www.pricewatch.com has them for $49 plus $10 shipping. For the Modem, and I'll take

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-23 Thread Renai LeMay
Well it really depends what you use it for. Personally, the best price/performance graphics card for Linux is the Geforce 2 mx from Nvidia - about $160 Australian. You will, however, to get good performance, have to download and install the drivers yourself, and run unstable or woody, as they b

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-23 Thread Brian Nelson
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 10:56:17PM -0500, Michael Danicich wrote: > Modem: Go with external. You can rest assured they are not WinModems and > will work under Linux. My USRobotics 56k external > modem worked great up until I got DSL. :) > > Sound Card: I've only used a Creative AWE64 Gold ca

Re: The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-23 Thread Michael Danicich
Modem: Go with external. You can rest assured they are not WinModems and will work under Linux. My USRobotics 56k external modem worked great up until I got DSL. :) Sound Card: I've only used a Creative AWE64 Gold card. It has worked almost flawlessly using the Sound Blaster driver. Video

The Perfect Debian / Personal Computer

2001-04-23 Thread John and Kristy Woodill
Well i have given up on trying to configured Windows / Linux together.  I can't get the hardware right and don't feel like fucking with it anymore.  I wanna build a computer just for linux-debian.  I know what kinda motherboard and KMD processor i wanna get but could someone please list what