On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 10:56:55AM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> FWIW, I still use apt-get instead of aptitude on my Sid machine. With recent
> apt versions in sid, I don't think there is a difference between apt-get
> and aptitude in terms of how they resolve dependencies (someone please
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:00:22 -0800
Ken Irving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 03:31:19PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
[snip]
> > I only use apt-get when I need to install from the source (which aptitude
> > cannot do).
>
> I wonder why that is; the source packages are independe
Mark Neidorff wrote:
> Here's an example of what this message is about:
> I've been reading the debian-user list for a bit, and I've noticed that
> suggestions given are to use the apt-* suite or aptitude to managing
> packages. While setting things up (and installing packages) I came across
> sy
On 20 Aug 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 10:20:51AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
>
> > I ditched aptitude a couple of years ago in favour of wajig. I'm willing
> > to believe that most or even all of the problems I had with aptitude
> > were my own fault, but wajig is b
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 01:04:15PM +0200, Mihamina (R12y) Rakotomandimby wrote:
> In _my_ opinion:
> Installing and using a distribution implies using its package manager.
> Or, if you dont want that, install LFS.
> Packaging is one of the strength of Linux distributions over than other
> OS.
> B
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 10:20:51AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I ditched aptitude a couple of years ago in favour of wajig. I'm willing
> to believe that most or even all of the problems I had with aptitude
> were my own fault, but wajig is brilliant IMO and I don't find a need
> for anythin
Mark Neidorff wrote:
Hi all,
Recently I've set up a Debian Etch box which I'm nearly ready to bring up full
time (currently using a different distribution...been a linux user for over
10 years).
Here's an example of what this message is about:
I've been reading the debian-user list for a b
On Aug 20, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote:
There's "Undo" (Ctrl-U) before pressing g and "Cancel Pending Actions"
(in menu "Actions") that can be used after the first g.
Is this what you need?
It seems like I tried 'Cancel Pending Actions' once and it didn't
seem to do anything, bu
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 03:31:19PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
> I'm also curious about what problems other people are having with
> aptitude.
aptitude is slow on simple searches (so I use apt-cache for those), but
the patterns are much more powerful.
> --
> * However, I never do anyth
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 10:40:43AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> On Aug 19, 2007, at 1:08 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>> There were
>> frequent posts to the list like "Aptitude wants to remove 150
>> packages!!!". They were using the CLI and didn't get the detailed
>> explanation from aptitude
On Aug 19, 2007, at 1:08 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
There were
frequent posts to the list like "Aptitude wants to remove 150
packages!!!". They were using the CLI and didn't get the detailed
explanation from aptitude that they would from the curses interface.
Dumb question: Is there a way to
Hi Mumia,
On 8/19/07, Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* However, I never do anything at the command line that hasn't been
> verified as safe. I always use the curses interface to find out what is
> going to happen before I enter a command at the command line.
Well, that's a valuable advis
Hi Douglas,
On 8/19/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you mix with apt-get ...
>
> ... This leads to the cruft buildup that
> aptitude is suposed to help you prevent.
I remember a thread some time ago that just pointed out not to mix apt-get
with aptitude.
The other problem i
On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 14:10 -0400, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> Hi all,
Hi you
> More generally, is there a document/web page that explains what are the
> preferred packages and what is the "Debian Way" of doing things.
In _my_ opinion:
Installing and using a distribution implies using its package ma
On 19 Aug 2007, Ken Irving wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 03:31:19PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
>
> I haven't tried aptitude for some time, and apparently the problem I
> had with it (where it wanted to remove a lot of stuff) has been fixed.
> I think that, even before that fix, it would work reaso
On 08/19/2007 05:00 PM, Ken Irving wrote:
[...]
I haven't tried aptitude for some time, and apparently the problem I
had with it (where it wanted to remove a lot of stuff) has been fixed.
I think that, even before that fix, it would work reasonably (i.e., no
surprises) as long as it was used exc
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 01:30:28AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 22:06:29 +, s. keeling wrote:
> The problem is this: If you install the "kde" (or "gnome") metapackage
> with aptitude then all the other KDE (Gnome) packages are marked as
> "automatically installed" be
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 22:06:29 +, s. keeling wrote:
[...]
> For current stable/Etch, aptitude is recommended, but many still stick
> with apt-get.
>
> The biggest problem I've noticed is "aptitude remove blah" where
> "blah" is some KDE or Gnome app, tends to want to blow away
> *everythin
Mark Neidorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Recently I've set up a Debian Etch box which I'm nearly ready to
> bring up full time (currently using a different distribution...been
> a linux user for over 10 years).
Fourteen here. :-)
> Here's an example of what this message is about: I've been re
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 03:31:19PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
> On 08/19/2007 02:25 PM, Manon Metten wrote:
>> Hi Douglas,
>> On 8/19/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Note that many of the horror stories about aptitude involved
>>> people using it as a CLI replacement for apt-get ins
On 08/19/2007 02:25 PM, Manon Metten wrote:
Hi Douglas,
On 8/19/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Note that many of the horror stories about aptitude involved
people using it as a CLI replacement for apt-get instead of using its
curses interface.
Are you saying I should NOT u
Mark Neidorff wrote:
So now I'm
wondering according to Debian Wisdom (no disrespect intended to anyonne)
which is the preferred way of installing software?
The one your comfortable with. aptitude is recommended mainly because it
is a best of breed of the CLI package tools. The key is
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 09:25:15PM +0200, Manon Metten wrote:
> On 8/19/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Note that many of the horror stories about aptitude involved
> > people using it as a CLI replacement for apt-get instead of using its
> > curses interface.
>
> Are you sayi
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 02:35:18PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> The release notes state that aptitude is the preferred package
> management tool since it takes care of automatically installed pacakges
Nitpick: aptitude is recommended because it handles complex dependencies
better. The autom
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 09:25:15PM +0200, Manon Metten wrote:
> Hi Douglas,
>
> On 8/19/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Note that many of the horror stories about aptitude involved
> > people using it as a CLI replacement for apt-get instead of using its
> > curses interface.
Hi Douglas,
On 8/19/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Note that many of the horror stories about aptitude involved
> people using it as a CLI replacement for apt-get instead of using its
> curses interface.
Are you saying I should NOT use aptitude as a replacement for
apt-get, li
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 02:10:27PM -0400, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Recently I've set up a Debian Etch box which I'm nearly ready to bring up
> full
> time (currently using a different distribution...been a linux user for over
> 10 years).
>
> Here's an example of what this message
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 02:10:27PM -0400, Mark Neidorff wrote:
>
> Here's an example of what this message is about:
> I've been reading the debian-user list for a bit, and I've noticed that
> suggestions given are to use the apt-* suite or aptitude to managing
> packages. While setting things u
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:10:27 -0400
Mark Neidorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Mark,
> More generally, is there a document/web page that explains what are
> the preferred packages and what is the "Debian Way" of doing things.
One of the reasons that the apt-* suite is recommended is that, sho
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:10:27 -0400
Mark Neidorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Recently I've set up a Debian Etch box which I'm nearly ready to
> bring up full time (currently using a different distribution...been a
> linux user for over 10 years).
>
> Here's an example of what this
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:10:27 -0400
Mark Neidorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Recently I've set up a Debian Etch box which I'm nearly ready to bring up
> full
> time (currently using a different distribution...been a linux user for over
> 10 years).
>
> Here's an example of what
Hi all,
Recently I've set up a Debian Etch box which I'm nearly ready to bring up full
time (currently using a different distribution...been a linux user for over
10 years).
Here's an example of what this message is about:
I've been reading the debian-user list for a bit, and I've noticed tha
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