I would appreciate it since y’all received it
Sent from my iPhone
Hi,
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> Very good information but the word sudo comes up everywhere.
For the purpose of backing up and restoring a whole operating system
with multiple users and partly restrictive permissions: yes.
> If a user does not have sudo rights she/he can back-up files and restore
> th
Very good information but the word sudo comes up everywhere.
If a user does not have sudo rights she/he can back-up files and restore
them as long as s/he has rights to what their backing-up/restoring. So
if you are in a network public environment you may not even have rights
to even your own disk
Hi,
the restore scenario for the xorriso backup would be like this:
- Prepare the storage device to which you want to restore.
This may be as simple as choosing some directory in a filesystem with
enough free space, or as complicated as setting up a new operating
system on a freshly purcha
Hi,
fresh mail from GiaThnYgeia:
> So I decided to run the whole script as sudo or sudo xorriso and it
> seems the problem is solved.
Good to know. You are now supposed to have a copy of the files and
directories of the USB stick.
> Should I attempt to rebuild it to a test disk to see if it rel
Hi,
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> drwx-- 2 root root 16384 Mar 10 03:21 /media/user/sid/lost+found
If you were not superuser or ran xorriso under sudo, then the ownership
and permissions are a valid reason for being unable to read its content.
I do not generally advise to make backups as superuser. B
I changed the rights 0755 to this lost+ and it got stuck to an other
folder and contents that had only root/owner privileges
So I decided to run the whole script as sudo or sudo xorriso and it
seems the problem is solved.
Should I attempt to rebuild it to a test disk to see if it reliable?
Thoma
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 12:15:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> What is that + at .. root-directory? Mounting point?
> C;/media/user/sid$ ls -alt /media/user/sid
> total 124
> drwxr-x---+ 5 root root 4096 Mar 13 13:52 ..
It indicates the presence of an ACL (file access control list), as
docume
I'll have to learn how to do this trick to (read the fine code of your
email that is that scraps the rest)
Thomas Schmitt:
> ls -ld /media/user/sid/lost+found
I ommitted some of the usual stuff with drwxr-xr-x (the C; is a
joke of course for user@machinename)
What is that + at .. root-dire
Hi,
i quoted man bzip2:
> > As with compression, supplying no filenames causes decompression from
> > standard input to standard output."
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> ...aka screen dump?
If the standard output of bzip2 is not connected to the standard input
of another process or redirected to a file
On Sun 12 Mar 2017 at 23:50:00 (+), GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> Thomas Schmitt:
> > This is not an answer to my question.
> > Is the reported address a single line
> >
> > /media/user/DebonUSB/usb-Kingston_DataTraveler_3.0_08606E69C773BFC06965007B-0:0-part1
> > or is it reported as two lines:
> >
Thomas Schmitt:
> Hi,
> i wrote:
>>> bunzip2
> GiaThnYgeia wrote:
>> bunzip2 imagefile | dd of=/dev/sdb
>
> The small but decisive difference is the "<" in my example.
My fault, I thought it was brackets to remind me to enter my own
filename and the second one was missing ;)
> My example gives
Hi,
i wrote:
> > bunzip2 bunzip2 imagefile | dd of=/dev/sdb
The small but decisive difference is the "<" in my example.
My example gives bunzip2 no file path, so that it begins to read from
standard input and writes to standard output. bunzip2's standard
input is redirected from file "imagefile
I am getting a little frustrated as neither dd or xorriso work for me as
I wanted. With the dd and bzip2 combination I got an image really fast
(compared to dd if=.. of=.. ) but when I tried to restore it
dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb | bzip2 >imagefile
bunzip2 imagefile | dd of=/dev/sdb
it unzipped the i
Hi,
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> $ xorriso -indev sid1.iso -find / -exec lsdl --
> ...
> drwxr-xr-x1 00 0 Nov 24 11:14 '/'
This explains why the ISO is so small. No files in it.
(The size consists mainly of the traditional 300 KB of padding at the
end of the image.)
> On medi
I am nearly giving up, can't understand what I am doing wrong or what I
should be doing.
Thomas Schmitt:
> Hi,
>
> GiaThnYgeia wrote:
>> Is something wrong?
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 user 458752 Mar 9 00:08 usb_part1.iso
>
> That's much too small for any backup with substance.
> What do you get fr
Hi,
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> Is something wrong?
> -rw-r--r-- 1 user 458752 Mar 9 00:08 usb_part1.iso
That's much too small for any backup with substance.
What do you get from
xorriso -indev usb_part1.iso -find / -exec lsdl --
Is the USB stick content visible underneath
/mnt/usb-Kingsto
Hi,
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> $ ls -l
> /mnt/usb-Kingston_DataTraveler_3.0_08606E69C773BFC06965007B-0:0-part1
> total 0
Oops. I should have proposed
ls -ld
so that we see the directory's info rather than the one of its content.
Please retry.
(The USB stick seems not to have been mounted at that m
Thomas Schmitt:
> Hi,
>
> i forgot to adapt my xorriso example from a few days ago:
>
> xorriso \
> -for_backup \
> -outdev usb_part1.iso \
> -map /mnt/usb-Kingston_DataTraveler_3.0_08606E69C773BFC06965007B-0:0-part1 /
Ok, my drive has grown from 1,7gB to about 2GB since the last try wit
I haven't seen the questions…
On Thu 09 Mar 2017 at 17:37:23 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> > /mnt/usb-Kingston_DataTraveler_3.0_08606E69C773BFC06965007B-0:0-part1
>
> Although it is ugly, i guess it is reproducible whenever you plug in
> that stick and other sticks get oth
Hi,
i forgot to adapt my xorriso example from a few days ago:
xorriso \
-for_backup \
-outdev usb_part1.iso \
-map /mnt/usb-Kingston_DataTraveler_3.0_08606E69C773BFC06965007B-0:0-part1 /
Note that the last "/" is not a misspelled "\" but the path to the
upcomming ISO's root directory. Th
Hi,
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> /mnt/usb-Kingston_DataTraveler_3.0_08606E69C773BFC06965007B-0:0-part1
Although it is ugly, i guess it is reproducible whenever you plug in
that stick and other sticks get other reproducible addresses.
(Better test whether the address is indeed the same each time.)
> How
On Wed 08 Mar 2017 at 16:29:00 (+), GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> Hello, this is OP speaking :)
> My use is about 96% backing up the image and only when things fall apart
> will there be a restoring attempt. But what good would saving multiple
> successive images be if none can be ever restored?
This
Hello, this is OP speaking :)
Thomas Schmitt:
> Hi,
>
> David Wright wrote:
>> Forgive me for asking, but have you read the OP?
>
> Yep. It's a daredevil situation. "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead"
I promise to be more cautious on my next life, maybe a cheetah laying in
the sun all day.
>
Hi,
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> So each manufacturer may have a different internal system but the output
> is standardized. So we don't really know what goes on in there, right?
Yes. We programmers enjoy the simplified model of an array of consecutive
logical blocks. The physical blocks are a matter of
On 03/07/2017 07:53 PM, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
Once you install a system like debian, does the information
in the hidden part of the disk ever change, of can I just copy the file
system partition as a backup and replace it if it breaks?
AFAIK when using MBR partitioning, the partition table (blocks
On 03/07/2017 12:26 AM, Teemu Likonen wrote:
David Christensen [2017-03-06 21:05:31-08] wrote:
# dd if=/dev/sda | gzip > myimage.img
What's the point of using dd?
gzip myimage.img
Habit -- I use 16 GB SSD or USB flash drives for my system drives, with
10% under-provisioning. 'dd'
Thomas Schmitt:
> Hi,
>
> GiaThnYgeia wrote:
>> 2.1 Block by block, [...] erased data on
>> an empty block can be recovered because they are not zero. Correct?
>
> If not the filesystem overwrote the content of deleted files
> the problem will still be to find the content you are interested in.
Hi,
David Wright wrote:
> Forgive me for asking, but have you read the OP?
Yep. It's a daredevil situation. "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead"
> I can't see
> the sense of backing up a filesystem to an image file and then, for
> the sake of it, using the image file to overwrite the original
On Tue 07 Mar 2017 at 20:25:30 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i wrote:
> > > It has its use cases. E.g. before you put a Debian installation ISO
> > > onto an USB stick, it can be used to backup the old stick content
>
> David Wright wrote:
> > Why would you now copy the old stick conte
Hi,
i wrote:
> > It has its use cases. E.g. before you put a Debian installation ISO
> > onto an USB stick, it can be used to backup the old stick content
David Wright wrote:
> Why would you now copy the old stick content onto the stick again?
When you no longer need the installation ISO because
Hi,
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> 1 So an img file does not matter what extension it has,
It's the data content which matters, not the name.
dd or cp don't care about name extensions.
> 2.1 Block by block, [...] erased data on
> an empty block can be recovered because they are not zero. Correct?
If
On Tue 07 Mar 2017 at 18:05:48 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> > no one has pointed out the recklessness of the
> > action in the first place.
> > Making a backup and then immediately copying it back over the top of
> > the original is an obvious recipe for data-loss.
>
> It
I'd like to thank in advance ALL that responded, I think this is
valuable for an archive of a manual for the nearly illiterate.
Thomas Schmitt:
> GiaThnYgeia wrote:
>>> I used dd if=/dev/sdb of=usbfilename.iso
>>> The resulting image was the full size of the disk.
>
> That's the job of dd: Copyin
Hi,
tomás wrote:
> But yes dd is a dinosaur from olden times where block sizes were a
> thing
It is also about EBCDIC and byte sex. Last century's topics.
Love, 36 bit, and punched cards.
David Wright wrote:
> no one has pointed out the recklessness of the
> action in the first place.
> Making
On Tue 07 Mar 2017 at 10:55:01 (+0200), Teemu Likonen wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de [2017-03-07 09:35:06+01] wrote:
>
> > dd comes in handy whin you know how much to copy. So this idiom makes
> > sense
> >
> > dd if=/dev/zero of=lotsofnull bs=1024 count=1024 # copy 1M of zeros
>
> That particular t
On Tue 07 Mar 2017 at 00:11:00 (+), GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> I am not very confident I am doing this right and it seems wrong, I
> can't locate any documentation that results into proper options.
> I tried backing up an 8gb USB that has 2 partitions in it, one had 1.7gb
> of data on it.
> I used d
* GiaThnYgeia [2017-03-07 00:11 +]:
> I am not very confident I am doing this right and it seems wrong, I
> can't locate any documentation that results into proper options.
> I tried backing up an 8gb USB that has 2 partitions in it, one had 1.7gb
> of data on it.
> I used dd if=/dev/sdb of=
On Seg, 06 Mar 2017, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
Is there someway one can avoid creating such a large iso for no reason,
when the filesize is a fraction of the whole disk. One way I thought of
was to shrink the partitions to just about 99% full, and leave the blank
part of the disk as not allocated. Wou
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 12:11:00AM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> I am not very confident I am doing this right and it seems wrong, I
> can't locate any documentation that results into proper options.
> I tried backing up an 8gb USB that has 2 partitions in it, one had 1.7gb
> of data on it.
> I used
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:26:25AM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote:
> What's the point of using dd?
>
> gzip myimage.img
>
> I don't know about you but many people seem to think that dd is some
> kind of special tool for reading and writing block device files. But
> after all the devices are just
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On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:55:01AM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de [2017-03-07 09:35:06+01] wrote:
>
> > dd comes in handy whin you know how much to copy. So this idiom makes
> > sense
> >
> > dd if=/dev/zero of=lotsofnull bs=1024 cou
to...@tuxteam.de [2017-03-07 09:35:06+01] wrote:
> dd comes in handy whin you know how much to copy. So this idiom makes
> sense
>
> dd if=/dev/zero of=lotsofnull bs=1024 count=1024 # copy 1M of zeros
That particular thing can be made faster without transferring any data:
$ dd obs=1M count
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On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:26:25AM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote:
> David Christensen [2017-03-06 21:05:31-08] wrote:
>
> > # dd if=/dev/sda | gzip > myimage.img
>
> What's the point of using dd?
>
> gzip myimage.img
>
> I don't know about you
David Christensen [2017-03-06 21:05:31-08] wrote:
> # dd if=/dev/sda | gzip > myimage.img
What's the point of using dd?
gzip myimage.img
I don't know about you but many people seem to think that dd is some
kind of special tool for reading and writing block device files. But
after all th
Hi,
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> > I used dd if=/dev/sdb of=usbfilename.iso
> > The resulting image was the full size of the disk.
That's the job of dd: Copying block by block.
As David stated, the file usbfilename.iso will not be an ISO 9660 filesystem
but rather a disk image.
David Christensen wrot
On 03/06/2017 09:05 PM, David Christensen wrote:
If you have an SSD, fstrim(8) will discard all unused blocks, regardless
of file system. They should then read as zeros:
https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/util-linux/fstrim.8.en.html
I should qualify that:
If you have an SSD, fstrim(8) wi
On 03/06/2017 04:11 PM, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
I am not very confident I am doing this right and it seems wrong, I
can't locate any documentation that results into proper options.
I tried backing up an 8gb USB that has 2 partitions in it, one had 1.7gb
of data on it.
I used dd if=/dev/sdb of=usbfile
Hi,
On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 00:11:00 +
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> I am not very confident I am doing this right and it seems wrong, I
> can't locate any documentation that results into proper options.
> I tried backing up an 8gb USB that has 2 partitions in it, one had 1.7gb
> of data on it.
> I used
I am not very confident I am doing this right and it seems wrong, I
can't locate any documentation that results into proper options.
I tried backing up an 8gb USB that has 2 partitions in it, one had 1.7gb
of data on it.
I used dd if=/dev/sdb of=usbfilename.iso
The resulting image was the full siz
Thanks! I just downloaded your assault cube video. Looks like a fun
game. Also, great commentary!
Also, I just thought that I'd mention that a couple of other people
have responded to you already, but you might not have received their
emails. This is because in Debian, people don't send their resp
I believe the new Borderlands game also just came out on Linux, if
you're interested in that. It's apparently very fun :)
Could you post a link to one of your videos? I'm interested in
subscribing, but like Riley, wasn't able to find your channel!
Thanks,
- Tim
On 8/27/2015 9:20 PM, Benjamin ro
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> Im totally able to upload and edit games and able to play them. I started m=
y chaneel a few days ago and i seem to be pretty good already, I have 16 vie=
ws on my fi
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 21:20:55 -0400
Benjamin ronell wrote:
> Im totally able to upload and edit games and able to play them. I started
> my chaneel a few days ago and i seem to be pretty good already, I have 16
> views on my first vid and it builds up from there. I'm trying to get debian
> and lin
Im totally able to upload and edit games and able to play them. I started
my chaneel a few days ago and i seem to be pretty good already, I have 16
views on my first vid and it builds up from there. I'm trying to get debian
and linux to get more users by showing off games, tutorials and other
thing
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 26 Apr 2015 at 05:31:41 -0700, Ldten K wrote:
>
> > Need some help making bootable HD with Grub.
> >
> > I have two HDs of the same size:
> > 1. /dev/sda - my old and working HD which has grub properly
> > installed,
On Sun 26 Apr 2015 at 05:31:41 -0700, Ldten K wrote:
> Need some help making bootable HD with Grub.
>
> I have two HDs of the same size:
> 1. /dev/sda - my old and working HD which has grub properly installed,
> the system boots and works properly. /dev/sda has the followi
Hi,
Need some help making bootable HD with Grub.
I have two HDs of the same size:
1. /dev/sda - my old and working HD which has grub properly installed, the
system boots and works properly. /dev/sda has the following partitions:
/dev/sda1 /boot
/dev/sda2 /
/dev/sda3 swap
2. /dev
On 14/03/2015 22:45, Bob Proulx wrote:
Normally the idea in rescue mode is that you are presented with a
shell with the root in your main system. At that point you can mount
the rest of your system. It would normally be like this:
# mount -a
However seeing those large numbers 121 and 121
Ron Leach wrote:
> Some progress. The CDROM problem that was preventing the D7.7 install DVD
> from running in rescue mode was due to a defective USB DVD device.
> Replacing that enables the rescue mode of the install DVD to run properly.
Yay! Progress!
> Rescue mode has assembled 7 raid partit
On 03/13/2015 12:34 AM, Ron Leach wrote:
Some progress. ...
1. Please read this post:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg01113.html
2. It's been my experience that trying to "find the needle in the
haystack" is an exercise in futility -- even if I do "fix" something an
Some progress. The CDROM problem that was preventing the D7.7 install
DVD from running in rescue mode was due to a defective USB DVD device.
Replacing that enables the rescue mode of the install DVD to run
properly. Rescue mode has assembled 7 raid partitions, and '/' was on
the 2nd partitio
e how far I get with
that.
What about simply installing a new, modern GRUB? Might that be a
possible way forward in this case, using its 'OS probe' facility to
build its own configuration stuff? The motherboard is not a modern
UEFI type, so it has the older type of BIOS.
The oth
On 03/12/2015 10:40 PM, Ron Leach wrote:
> List, good evening,
>
> Been adding some security upgrades on a Wheezy server, these included
> upgrading the kernel to the latest - I cannot be precise but I think it
> changed from --u5 to --u7. It's pae 386. 3.65, I think, but that's from
> memory
On 03/12/2015 02:31 PM, Ron Leach wrote:
... I cannot boot the system from the sda or sdb.
First, archive your backup, image the operating system drive, archive
the image, and put the archives off-site.
Do you have an image of your system drive from when it was working? If,
so, restore it
List, good evening,
Been adding some security upgrades on a Wheezy server, these included
upgrading the kernel to the latest - I cannot be precise but I think
it changed from --u5 to --u7. It's pae 386. 3.65, I think, but
that's from memory. I can't check any of this because I cannot boot
J. B wrote:
> I have bought a new HDD. Created 2 partitions.
> An un-encrypted 1 GB /boot as a separate partition on the Disk.
One gig for /boot? I know you are probably planning on using it for a
dropbox but that still seems excessive to me. If I wanted a dropbox I
would use an additional diffe
Dear list,
I have bought a new HDD. Created 2 partitions.
An un-encrypted 1 GB /boot as a separate partition on the Disk.
And on the rest (2nd partition) an encrypted LVM with root and home as two
logical volume on it.
Now I like to migrate my running system, the running "/" to the root of logi
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:27:43 +0100, Ιάσονας Παπαδόπουλος wrote:
(next time better choose a more descriptive subject to catch people's
attention... and no html, please ;-) )
> I am a bit confused here. When i go download the full debian DVD for my
> USB thumb (8 GB) it sends me to this website (
Ιάσονας Παπαδόπουλος wrote:
I am a bit confused here. When i go download the full debian DVD for
my USB thumb (8 GB) it sends me to this website (
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/i386/bt-dvd/ ) which has 8
iso files. does that mean that i have to install them in a row (like
the game
On 10.04.2012 10:27, Ιάσονας Παπαδόπουλος wrote:
> I am a bit confused here. When i go download the full debian DVD for my
> USB thumb (8 GB) it sends me to this website (
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/i386/bt-dvd/ ) which has 8 iso
> files. does that mean that i have to install them
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Date: Wednesday 25 January 2012, 17:08:36
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To: geiss...@deb
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Ken Ingram wrote:
[snip]
> apollo:/var/www/fss# cat /etc/apt/sources.lst
> cat: /etc/apt/sources.lst: No such file or directory
should be /etc/apt/sources.list
it appears to me that purging "kdepim-dev" and reinstall it afterwards
might be a solution.
and what's th
1. I ran the autoremove since that was suggested after I ran "apt-get -f
install".
It would appear that it is a never-ending loop of poor suggestions to
resolving the problem.
2. I'm from RedHat and rpm so I'm still trying to get a grip on apt while
having a workable system.
I'd like to get fa
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:54:44AM -0700, Ken Ingram wrote:
Why are you doing:
> apollo:/var/cache/apt/archives# apt-get -f autoremove
when you have this:
> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 23 to remove and 2186 not upgraded.
> 31 not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 83.0kB of archives.
apollo:/var/cache/apt/archives# apt-get -f autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
libcamel1.2-8 libwxgtk2.4-1 libexchange-sto
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Joe wrote:
> On 09/07/10 06:48, surreal wrote:
>> I need a guide and howto on setting up a courier imap server on the
>> system..a basic guide of how to add users, set up their mailboxes and
>> get it
>> running with postfix smtp server will be good.
>
On 09/07/10 06:48, surreal wrote:
I need a guide and howto on setting up a courier imap server on the
system..a basic guide of how to add users, set up their mailboxes and get it
running with postfix smtp server will be good.
Please point me any tutorial having lenny as the server example(not et
I need a guide and howto on setting up a courier imap server on the
system..a basic guide of how to add users, set up their mailboxes and get it
running with postfix smtp server will be good.
Please point me any tutorial having lenny as the server example(not etch)
Regards
--
Harshad Joshi
Tony wrote:
> The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
You might have run out of memory. Try adding more RAM to the system
and see if it works
David S
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Hello!
Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a problem with amule, azureus and vlc
> I'm running Debian version 4.0 r1 etch i386
> When I try to run this programs from the menu nothing happens and whe
> I executed the programs in the terminal I get the following output
[...]
Have a look at th
I have a problem with amule, azureus and vlc
I'm running Debian version 4.0 r1 etch i386
When I try to run this programs from the menu nothing happens and whe
I executed the programs in the terminal I get the following output
Initialising aMule
Checking if there is an instance already running...
N
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 11:44:21AM -0500, anoop aryal wrote:
>On Thursday 27 April 2006 02:47, Magnus Therning wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:57:41AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>> >On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:46:52PM -0400, Terry wrote:
>> >> I just loaded my first Linux machine. It laod
John Stumbles wrote:
> Since my first experience with GNOME was of the apps bundled with it
> that rather put me off. Now that I know what I want to use (e.g. k3b) I
> could probably get along with GNOME if I had to. However since I'm now
> reasonably familar with KDE it'd be a learning curve to ge
Magnus Therning wrote:
> - Nautilus, and yes, I use the spatial layout which probably means I'm
>in minority among Gnomistas.
I too prefer the spatial Nautilus. With my left hand riding the shift
key and right hand on the mouse, it's as fast as using the shell for
many common tasks.
cmr
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 09:15:05PM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote:
> >
>
> or for the more hardcore people/weaker machines/those who like a responsive
> window manager that can look as good if not better then the former two
>
> aptitude install x-window-system fvwm wdm
> or
> aptitude install x-windo
On Thursday 27 April 2006 02:47, Magnus Therning wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:57:41AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> >On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:46:52PM -0400, Terry wrote:
> >> I just loaded my first Linux machine. It laoded well and I am able to
> >> log on with no problem. My questio
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:44:29PM +0100, John Stumbles wrote:
>My own progression was
>Mandrake: easy to use (KDE), PITA to manage (packages etc)
>SuSE: more or less ditto
>Ubuntu: couldn't get my brain round the GUI
>Kubuntu: phew!
>debian (w/kde)
My own progression is lost in time. I've used, a
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 09:15:05PM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:47:07 +0100
>Magnus Therning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:57:41AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>> >On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:46:52PM -0400, Terry wrote:
>> >> I just loaded my fir
Mike McCarty wrote:
Chris Lale wrote:
Terry wrote:
I just loaded my first Linux machine. It laoded well and I am able
to log on with no problem. My question is how do I get the GUI up
after I log on? All I get is the prompt.
Terry
Section 5 of the NewbieDOC article at
http://newb
Mike McCarty wrote:
> Umm, on my system, I do the same thing, using GNOME.
> Is K3b part of KDE? I wasn't aware of that. If so, then how come I
> can use it with GNOME? I thought KDE and GNOME were simple managers
> which can invoke any number of applications.
>
> I've never used the GNOME CDCREATO
Mike McCarty wrote:
John Stumbles wrote:
I did try to use and understand GNOME (honest!) but it's too warped for
my brain (or vice versa :-). To give an example: burning a CD etc under
KDE I invoke k3b, select type of disc to burn, pick files to put on it,
set a few options (e.g. joliet if I wa
John Stumbles wrote:
I did try to use and understand GNOME (honest!) but it's too warped for
my brain (or vice versa :-). To give an example: burning a CD etc under
KDE I invoke k3b, select type of disc to burn, pick files to put on it,
set a few options (e.g. joliet if I want to play my mp3s on
Magnus Therning wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:57:41AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
apt-get install x-window-system kde kdm
I simply have to answer this.
The command line above is clearly not right, it should of course say:
apt-get install x-window-system gnome gdm
Given that the OP s
On Thu, April 27, 2006 1:15 pm, Micha Feigin wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:47:07 +0100
> Magnus Therning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:57:41AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>> >On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:46:52PM -0400, Terry wrote:
>> >> I just loaded my first Linux
Chris Lale wrote:
Terry wrote:
I just loaded my first Linux machine. It laoded well and I am able
to log on with no problem. My question is how do I get the GUI up
after I log on? All I get is the prompt.
Terry
Section 5 of the NewbieDOC article at
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/I
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:47:07 +0100
Magnus Therning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:57:41AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> >On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:46:52PM -0400, Terry wrote:
> >> I just loaded my first Linux machine. It laoded well and I am able to log
> >> on with
On Thu, April 27, 2006 5:59 am, Ken Walker wrote:
> when i do
>
> apt-get install x-window-system
> apt-get install fluxbox
>
> on a base install of Debian stable
>
>
> then startx,i go strait into fluxbox
>
>
>
> and reboot, i get a debian login screen, which when logging in takes me
> strait to f
Terry wrote:
I just loaded my first Linux machine. It laoded well and I am able
to log on with no problem. My question is how do I get the GUI up
after I log on? All I get is the prompt.
Terry
Section 5 of the NewbieDOC article at
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Installing_Debian_on
when you run 'apt-get install fluxbox',the program will install all
the package if necessity
^-^
2006/4/27, Wojciech R. Kusiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I believe xdm and wdm lack the ability to choose which environment you
> WINGs Display Manager (wdm) provides you with a list of installed
> win
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