Re: Which file to initialize X? (was Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro)

2014-06-06 Thread Filip
Joel Roth writes: > > I would be interested in having a summary. > > For my purposes, I use startx, and 'man startx' tells me to > put my initializations in .xinitrc, and does not refer > to any other init files. > > I used to have an .xsession file, which eventually stopped > working. > > 'man

Which file to initialize X? (was Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro)

2014-06-06 Thread Joel Roth
Brian wrote: > On Wed 04 Jun 2014 at 23:56:37 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > Brian wrote: > > > > > Those who use startx etc have some expectation of being provided with > > > uncomplicated correct information. > > > > The 'startx' is basically the "simple" way to start X and to use the > > syst

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-06 Thread Brian
On Wed 04 Jun 2014 at 23:56:37 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > Those who use startx etc have some expectation of being provided with > > uncomplicated correct information. > > The 'startx' is basically the "simple" way to start X and to use the > system supplied defaults. Which is

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 12:26:15 +0200 David Dušanić wrote: > I think at this point I link you to my fonts how-to for Debian > (Openbox). > > http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=196047#p196047 Very, very nice article. Very clearly written. I'm going to try this tomorrow. Thanks so much.

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-04 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > The fact though is that most users do not avoid startx or a > DM. Anyone who uses xinit has gone to some trouble to avoid either > of these two ways of getting X running. You would expect them to > know what they are doing. But people using xinit have not gone to any trouble to avoi

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-03 Thread Filip
Bob Proulx writes: > > I recommend using .Xresources loaded into the xrdb at start time. It > makes the most general sense to me. That way customizations are a > property of your $DISPLAY and not a property of your $HOME. But > either works if you understand the search and merge order. > > Bob

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-03 Thread Brian
On Tue 03 Jun 2014 at 13:45:14 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Debian doesn't use a .Xdefaults file. > > > >brian@desktop:~$ grep -r Xresources /etc/X11/ > >/etc/X11/Xsession:SYSRESOURCES=/etc/X11/Xresources > >/etc/X11/Xsession:USRRESOURCES=$HOME/.Xresources > > True. But that is the d

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Brian wrote: > > > I looked in the place that startx and the DMs look with a default > > > install of X. Which is not to deny your valid point. However. a user > > > would have to put in the extra effort to use .Xdefaults- or, > > > if they know it is possi

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-02 18:33:30 +0100, Brian wrote: > Fair enough. Now, if only users were advised to use .Xdefaults- > or .Xresources. Instead the choice is always .Xdefaults or .Xresources. > As I think we are agreed, one of these doesn't work. Ok, it can be made > to work; for example I've seen linking .

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Jun 2014 at 16:27:22 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2014-06-02 14:11:03 +0100, Brian wrote: > > I looked in the place that startx and the DMs look with a default > > install of X. Which is not to deny your valid point. However. a user > > would have to put in the extra effort to use

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-02 14:11:03 +0100, Brian wrote: > I looked in the place that startx and the DMs look with a default > install of X. Which is not to deny your valid point. However. a user > would have to put in the extra effort to use .Xdefaults- or, > if they know it is possible, a .Xresources directory

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Jun 2014 at 12:38:20 +0200, David Dušanić wrote: > 01.06.2014, 19:21, "Brian" : > > On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 13:09:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > >>  On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200 > >>  David Dušanić wrote: > >>>  I would make an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in your home folder with this > >

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Jun 2014 at 10:04:29 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2014-06-01 16:14:24 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > Debian doesn't use a .Xdefaults file. > > > >brian@desktop:~$ grep -r Xresources /etc/X11/ > >/etc/X11/Xsession:SYSRESOURCES=/etc/X11/Xresources > >/etc/X11/Xsession:USRR

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread David Dušanić
01.06.2014, 19:21, "Brian" : > On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 13:09:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >>  On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200 >>  David Dušanić wrote: >>>  I would make an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in your home folder with this >>>  e.g.: >>> >>>  Xft.autohint: 0 >>>  Xft.antialias: 1 >>>  Xft.hintin

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread David Dušanić
> You mention making an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in my home directory. Can > I safely assume the slash meant either/or, rather than directory/file? > I already had a .Xdefaults, but it was a config file, not a directory. Yes, the slash meant either/or. Xdefaults is the older way of doing it, I still

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-01 16:14:24 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 10:48:17 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > You mention making an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in my home directory. Can > > I safely assume the slash meant either/or, rather than directory/file? > > I already had a .Xdefaults, but it was a

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Brian
On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 13:09:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200 > David Dušanić wrote: > > > > I would make an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in your home folder with this > > e.g.: > > > > Xft.autohint: 0 > > Xft.antialias: 1 > > Xft.hinting: true > > Xft.hintstyle: hintsl

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Filip
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 13:09:11 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200 > David Dušanić wrote: > > > 31.05.2014, 18:59, "Steve Litt" : > > > On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 > > > Tony Baldwin wrote: > > >>  Sawfish

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200 David Dušanić wrote: > 31.05.2014, 18:59, "Steve Litt" : > > On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 > > Tony Baldwin wrote: > >>  Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just > >>  manages windo

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Brian
On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 10:48:17 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > You mention making an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in my home directory. Can > I safely assume the slash meant either/or, rather than directory/file? > I already had a .Xdefaults, but it was a config file, not a directory. > > I added your lines

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 07:54:50 -0400 Pete Orrall wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Steve Litt > wrote: > > On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 > > Tony Baldwin wrote: > > > >> Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just > &

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200 David Dušanić wrote: > 31.05.2014, 18:59, "Steve Litt" : > > On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 > > Tony Baldwin wrote: > >>  Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just > >>  manages windo

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Pete Orrall
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 > Tony Baldwin wrote: > >> Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just >> manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel,

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread David Dušanić
31.05.2014, 18:59, "Steve Litt" : > On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 > Tony Baldwin wrote: >>  Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just >>  manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel, >>  whic

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-05-31 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:59:06PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 > Tony Baldwin wrote: > > > Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just > > manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-05-31 Thread Filip
On Sat, 31 May 2014 12:59:06 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 > Tony Baldwin wrote: > > > Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just > > manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel,

Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-05-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 Tony Baldwin wrote: > Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just > manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel, > which I think JWM has by default. You're just the person I need to

Re: Sawfish wm won't start from gdm3

2012-08-29 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:02:39 -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: > I recently (finally) upgraded from lenny to squeeze. All seems well > except if I choose the sawfish window manager from the gdm3 greeter, the > dialog goes away and it just sits with the debian logo and the stars > backgro

Sawfish wm won't start from gdm3

2012-08-28 Thread Rick Macdonald
I recently (finally) upgraded from lenny to squeeze. All seems well except if I choose the sawfish window manager from the gdm3 greeter, the dialog goes away and it just sits with the debian logo and the stars background. I can't find any error messages anywhere (~/.xsession-errors).

Re: sawfish wm

2009-12-23 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:40:32 -0500 Frank McCormick wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Installed the Sawfish window manager today - along with > sawfish-themes. Picked it from the GDM login menu - a

sawfish wm

2009-12-23 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Installed the Sawfish window manager today - along with sawfish-themes. Picked it from the GDM login menu - and was presented with a grey screen, where nothing works...left/right/middle clicks produce nothing . What am I missing ?? - -- Frank

Re: Change Gnome window manager from Metacity, back to Sawfish

2007-04-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/07 19:03, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: > How can I change the Gnome window manager from Metacity, back to Sawfish? Why did you ask the same question twice in 15 minutes? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he e

Re: Change Gnome window manager from Metacity, back to Sawfish

2007-04-16 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mar, 17-04-2007 a las 05:33 +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak escribió: > How can I change the Gnome window manager from Metacity, back to Sawfish? > Hello! Please do not open two threads asking the same thing... at least not without having a few days with no answer. Thank you! BTW: I thi

Change Gnome window manager from Metacity, back to Sawfish

2007-04-16 Thread Masatran, R. Deepak
How can I change the Gnome window manager from Metacity, back to Sawfish? -- Masatran, R. Deepak <http://research.iiit.ac.in/~masatran/> pgpNxCCaegBW9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Sawfish-ui: error message

2005-09-09 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List, on my Etch box (daily updated) I get, when I launch sawfish-ui *** File error: No such file or directory, gui/gtk-2/gtk Any idea ? Thanks, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: sawfish (was: gnome config & metacity)

2005-07-19 Thread Adam Hardy
machines, even they using the same Homedir off a server. If your machine is significantly fast enough and you have good bandwidth, it shouldn't take long at all. OK I purged xserver-common and reinstalled and now I'm back to gnome & metacity. I would like to ditch metacity for sawfis

Re: OpenOffice & Sawfish...

2004-10-11 Thread Brent Miller
Andrea Vettorello wrote: I think it depends on the theme, or better, how it define the transient windows. I know this isn't a solution, but try with a different sawfish theme, like microgui... Andrea P.S. my preferred one is finalstep... Thanks, that did it! -Brent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: OpenOffice & Sawfish...

2004-10-11 Thread Andrea Vettorello
> > When I open OpenOffice in Gnome/Sawfish, everything for the most part > works fine. However, if I click on an icon on the tool bar, say > "Background Color" in Calc, a pop-up window will open giving me a pallet > to select a color from. The problem I'm having is

Re: OpenOffice & Sawfish...

2004-10-11 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 04:17:46PM -0700, Brent Miller wrote: > When I open OpenOffice in Gnome/Sawfish, everything for the most part > works fine. However, if I click on an icon on the tool bar, say > "Background Color" in Calc, a pop-up window will open giving me a pallet

Re: OpenOffice & Sawfish...

2004-10-10 Thread Micha Feigin
hen I open OpenOffice in Gnome/Sawfish, everything for the most part > works fine. However, if I click on an icon on the tool bar, say > "Background Color" in Calc, a pop-up window will open giving me a pallet > to select a color from. The problem I'm having is when Sawfish is

OpenOffice & Sawfish...

2004-10-10 Thread Brent Miller
I've been googling for a solution to my problem, and although I've been finding what seems to be a troubled history between the two, I haven't been able to find an answer to my problem. When I open OpenOffice in Gnome/Sawfish, everything for the most part works fine. However, i

Sawfish kills gnome panel keybindings

2004-07-17 Thread Neilen Marais
Hi! I'm using sarge, with the current gnome2 packages. When I run sawfish, alt-f1 and alt-f2 stop working for popping up the gnome menu, and gome-run command. I do have a bunch of custom keybindings defined in sawfish, but none of them use alt-f1 or alt-f2. Deleting my .sawfish director

sawfish popup-apps-menu problem

2004-07-12 Thread 王晓林
Hi, I am using Debian sarge, and got a problem with sawfish after a system upgrading. I bound the 'popup-apps-menu' function with the 'menu' key. It worked nicely. The complete apps menu can pops up including the Debian menu in it when I pressed the menu key. But things ch

menu problems after upgrading sawfish

2004-06-19 Thread Baurjan Ismagulov
Hello, I've upgraded sawfish to 1.3+cvs20040617-3, and now the programs menu contains only a few items like xterm, emacs, gv, xcalc, netscape. update-menus doesn't seem to have any effect (it worked with the previous version). I've tried a couple of suggestions from README.Debian

kdm, sawfish and .xsession

2004-05-27 Thread Brendan Halpin
I'm trying to get kdm working with sawfish, without using kde. I've been reading the code in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession, /etc/X11/Xsession and /etc/X11/Xsession.d/*, and my conclusion is that kdm is not meant to read ~/.xsession when it is asked to run sawfish or another window manager. (A

sawfish and UTF-8??

2004-03-15 Thread Magnus Therning
I was playing sround with locale settings and noticed that my sawfish turned ugly (title bars contained one unreadable character for each readable one) when using en_GB.utf8. Did I miss something or doesn't sawfish support unicode (yet)? /M -- Magnus Therning(Op

Re: sawfish debian menu compatibility?

2003-11-08 Thread andy
i have a ~/.menu directory. the file created is ~/.sawfish/lisp/debian-menu.jl. i assume that the menu is still where expected, because the popup-apps-menu keybinding still works. but the main menu doesn't seem to reference it anymore. the file /etc/X11/sawfish/site-init.d/00menu.jl looks

Re: sawfish debian menu compatibility?

2003-11-06 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:31:48AM -0600, andy bezella wrote: > a few sid upgrades ago (i believe starting with the recent cvs > checkouts) it appears that sawfish lost compatibility (to some extent) > with the debian menu system. the apps menu does not appear on the root > window me

sawfish debian menu compatibility?

2003-11-06 Thread andy bezella
a few sid upgrades ago (i believe starting with the recent cvs checkouts) it appears that sawfish lost compatibility (to some extent) with the debian menu system. the apps menu does not appear on the root window menu. i am still able to access it with a keybinding to popup-apps-menu, however

gnome-session, sawfish problems on Apple Powerbook

2003-11-02 Thread Brendan J Simon
ome 2.2 is installed. Has anybody else seen these problems? Is there some broken dependencies which means I haven't got something installed which gnome needs? Also the sawfish pager sucks!!! It seems to be a normal window and if you expand it and click in some space it creates a new page.

Sawfish and gnome-menu

2003-10-30 Thread Magnus Therning
I thought the package 'gnome-menu would give me an apps-menu that resembles the Gnome2 Menu Bar, but it doesn't, why? :( /M -- Magnus Therning mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +31-40-2745179 http://pww.innersource.philips.com/magnus/ OpenPGP:0x4FBB2C40 Technology lies on the leading edge of life.

Re: gnome 2.4 and sawfish weirdness

2003-10-19 Thread Simon Green
wski wrote: > I'm tracking unstable. After today's update/upgrade, gnome went to 2.4. > Now when I switch workspaces my windows shift randomly within each > workspace. I'm using sawfish as my window manager. Is anyone else > experiencing the same problem? Any solutions? &g

Re: gnome 2.4 and sawfish weirdness

2003-10-19 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
shift randomly within each > workspace. I'm using sawfish as my window manager. Is anyone else > experiencing the same problem? Any solutions? > > - Ryan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

gnome 2.4 and sawfish weirdness

2003-10-19 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
Hey folks, I'm tracking unstable. After today's update/upgrade, gnome went to 2.4. Now when I switch workspaces my windows shift randomly within each workspace. I'm using sawfish as my window manager. Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? Any solutions? - Ryan

Re: Hi, how can I add a key map to show the desktop undergnome&sawfish?? Thanks

2003-09-01 Thread Cristian Gutierrez
Zhao You Bing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I know that under RedHat there is a CTRL-ALT-D and it's very >convenient. > >Anyone can give me a point? Although not being a sawfish solution, you can try apt-get install xbindkeys It can help you define arbitrary keys to per

Re: Hi, how can I add a key map to show the desktop under gnome&sawfish?? Thanks

2003-09-01 Thread Nick Hastings
* Zhao You Bing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030901 10:36]: > I know that under RedHat there is a CTRL-ALT-D and it's very convenient. > > Anyone can give me a point? Run run sawfish-ui and set up the keybinding. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-loox

Re: Hi, how can I add a key map to show the desktop undergnome&sawfish?? Thanks

2003-09-01 Thread Damien Solley
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 11:09, Zhao You Bing wrote: > I know that under RedHat there is a CTRL-ALT-D and it's very convenient. > > Anyone can give me a point? > > -- > Zhao YouBing, Ph.D student > State Key Lab of CAD&CG,Zhejiang University, > Hangzhou, 310027, P.R.China > Tel : 0571-87951045(O),

Re: Gnome2.2, Sawfish, window dramas

2003-07-13 Thread Menaka Lashitha Bandara
n edge panel. By default the panel at the top is an edge. It's not floating. I can't understand why Sawfish doesn't deal with this correctly. Metacity used to on my x86 box, but that's stopped doing it too. Hmm... \LaShI -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 (Sid) (ibook2,

Re: Gnome2.2, Sawfish, window dramas

2003-07-11 Thread SYNeR
- Original Message - From: "Menaka Lashitha Bandara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 3:16 AM Subject: Gnome2.2, Sawfish, window dramas G'day all. I run Gnome2.2 with sawfish as my favourite WM :). The only problem is

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-04 Thread Richard Heycock
hat. The same. To recapitulate. I've tried it: > } > } * not using a path > } * using the full path > } * using the inbuilt Xterm command. > } > } All the same. I don't even know how to go about debugging it. Having > } said that I just tried strace'ing sa

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-04 Thread Gregory Seidman
path } * using the inbuilt Xterm command. } } All the same. I don't even know how to go about debugging it. Having } said that I just tried strace'ing sawfish and guess what it works every } time. I hate stuff like this. } } So does this mean that it's not sawfish at fault, i

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-04 Thread Richard Heycock
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 23:51, Gregory Seidman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:22:59PM +1000, Richard Heycock wrote: > } On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 21:15, Gregory Seidman wrote: > [...] > } > How odd. I'm using sawfish from testing (i.e. sarge, i.e. version 1:1.3-2) > } >

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-04 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:22:59PM +1000, Richard Heycock wrote: } On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 21:15, Gregory Seidman wrote: [...] } > How odd. I'm using sawfish from testing (i.e. sarge, i.e. version 1:1.3-2) } > with GNOME2 and it works just fine. A version or two ago they broke the } >

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-03 Thread Richard Heycock
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 21:15, Gregory Seidman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:24:05PM -0500, Todd Pytel wrote: > } I noticed this also with Sarge. Looks like Sawfish is being moved to the > } GNOME 2 version, which in my experience has always sucked tremendously. > } Somehow, they

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-03 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:24:05PM -0500, Todd Pytel wrote: } I noticed this also with Sarge. Looks like Sawfish is being moved to the } GNOME 2 version, which in my experience has always sucked tremendously. } Somehow, they took a nice, simple window manager that had just the right } options

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-03 Thread Todd Pytel
Richard Heycock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah I agree. I really liked the fact that you could dynamically > create new virtual desktops which is of course gone. Don't think Metacity does this... that was a nifty feature, though. Metacity is intentionally minimalist, as you've seen with their

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-03 Thread Richard Heycock
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 12:24, Todd Pytel wrote: > I noticed this also with Sarge. Looks like Sawfish is being moved to the > GNOME 2 version, which in my experience has always sucked tremendously. > Somehow, they took a nice, simple window manager that had just the right > options,

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-03 Thread Todd Pytel
I noticed this also with Sarge. Looks like Sawfish is being moved to the GNOME 2 version, which in my experience has always sucked tremendously. Somehow, they took a nice, simple window manager that had just the right options, reduced the number of options, removed the config tool, and yet still

Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-03 Thread Richard Heycock
I use keybindings quite a lot in sawfish but I noticed recently (I think after the last upgrade but I'm not sure) that some of them don't work very well. For example I have an xterm mapped to ctrl-shift-e and when I press those keys a number things might happen: * it works, bu

Re: sarge sawfish gnome - broken on 5/27/2003?

2003-05-31 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
The views seem to be gone.. in sawfish-ui add more "workspaces" this will get more desktops. still wondering if its normal behavior and a enhancement to sawfish or i broke something. Jeremy Brooks wrote: On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 20:32, Hanasaki JiJi wrote: Just did a dist-upgrade on

Re: sarge sawfish gnome - broken on 5/27/2003?

2003-05-31 Thread Jeremy Brooks
On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 20:32, Hanasaki JiJi wrote: > Just did a dist-upgrade on sarge and gnome sawfish no longer has the > panels / menus on the borders. > > is it broken in sarge? did i break something? > > Thanks I'm having a similar problem - the sawfish config tool

sarge sawfish gnome - broken on 5/27/2003?

2003-05-27 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
Just did a dist-upgrade on sarge and gnome sawfish no longer has the panels / menus on the borders. is it broken in sarge? did i break something? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions?

2003-04-03 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Florentin Ionescu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does sawfish work with gnome2 ? Except for the edge-flipping issue, which is solved thanks to the respondents, it hasn't given me any trouble with Gnome2. I'm using sawfish version 1.3 from unstable. Gary -- To

Re: Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions?

2003-04-02 Thread Rich Rudnick
On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 10:04, Gary Hennigan wrote: > A couple of questions for those running sid with Gnome2 and > Sawfish. > > 1) I can't figure out how to turn edge-flipping on. That's the ability > to drag a window between workspaces. I use that feature quite heavily &

Re: Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions?

2003-04-02 Thread Florentin Ionescu
Does sawfish work with gnome2 ? On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Gary Hennigan wrote : » Date: 02 Apr 2003 11:04:29 -0700 » From: Gary Hennigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> » To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » Subject: Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions? » Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:04:50 -0600 (CST) » Resent-From:

Re: Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions?

2003-04-02 Thread Michael Heironimus
d > accomplish this. I read some discussion on the edge-flipping capbility > in the sawfish bugzilla database and my interpretation was that it was > removed, but the discussion was from last year and a poll showed > overwhelming support for the feature so I'm hoping it didn't &

Re: Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions?

2003-04-02 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Gary Hennigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A couple of questions for those running sid with Gnome2 and > Sawfish. > > 1) I can't figure out how to turn edge-flipping on. That's the ability > to drag a window between workspaces. [snip] I managed to

Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions?

2003-04-02 Thread Gary Hennigan
A couple of questions for those running sid with Gnome2 and Sawfish. 1) I can't figure out how to turn edge-flipping on. That's the ability to drag a window between workspaces. I use that feature quite heavily and am loathe to use the little teeny things in the pager to try and accom

Re: sawfish: removing it switches alternatives to auto mode???

2003-03-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:52:14PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: > I had set up fvwm2 as x-window-manager (using update-alternatives) > but sawfish gets repeatedly set up as default window manager which is > very annoying becuase it causes window manager to exit when I try to >

sawfish: removing it switches alternatives to auto mode???

2003-03-04 Thread Erik Steffl
I had set up fvwm2 as x-window-manager (using update-alternatives) but sawfish gets repeatedly set up as default window manager which is very annoying becuase it causes window manager to exit when I try to restart it. while testing the problem I have found out that when I apt-get remove

Re: sawfish and mozilla

2003-02-21 Thread Claudio Bley
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 17:29:56 +0100, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Does anybody else notice that sawfish (1.0.1-6) keeps resizing the > Mozilla window immediately after Mozilla (2:0.9.8-2) is started? It > doesn't happen with other window managers, so I am fairly sure it is > s

Re: Keyboard shortcuts in GNOME/Sawfish

2003-02-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 10:21:28AM +0100, Andrej Prsa wrote: > Dear List, > > The wonderful GNOME 1.4 feature under Sawfish WM and 3.0r1 of introducing > nowhere-defined shortcuts for ALT+F1 and ALT+F2 (menu and app selection, > respectively) is really bugging me... I used Sa

Keyboard shortcuts in GNOME/Sawfish

2003-02-10 Thread Andrej Prsa
Dear List, The wonderful GNOME 1.4 feature under Sawfish WM and 3.0r1 of introducing nowhere-defined shortcuts for ALT+F1 and ALT+F2 (menu and app selection, respectively) is really bugging me... I used Sawfish shortcuts editor to define ALT+F1 and ALT+F2 shortcuts for other actions but to no

Re: Getting sawfish to remember stacking level

2003-02-07 Thread DvB
Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DvB sez: > } I would like to force GCD to always be on top and sticky whenever I run > } it. I've tried History->Remember-attributes, which makes it remember to > } be sticky whenever I run it. However, the stacking isn't remembered. Is > } there a way

Re: Getting sawfish to remember stacking level

2003-02-07 Thread Gregory Seidman
DvB sez: } I would like to force GCD to always be on top and sticky whenever I run } it. I've tried History->Remember-attributes, which makes it remember to } be sticky whenever I run it. However, the stacking isn't remembered. Is } there a way to do this? Check out the Matched Windows preferences

Getting sawfish to remember stacking level

2003-02-07 Thread DvB
or GNOME core apps ii sawfish 1.0.1.20020116-3 A highly configurable window manager for X11. TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish

2003-01-16 Thread Adam Kao
recipe, simple, step-by-step instructions to make a specific configuration of sawfish, the one I use." you should also say what kind of configuration you use, ie if it is minimalistic, eye-candy or something like that. i know, one would notice this while reading the recipe, but if i had a real

Re: RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish

2003-01-15 Thread Adam Kao
or disagreement. To clarify, this is not a HOWTO. It is a recipe, simple step-by-step instructions to achieve a particular configuration of sawfish, namely the configuration I like to use. As a recipe, it should be tasted first. If you don't like the results of this recipe, you can go bac

Re: RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish

2003-01-15 Thread Adam Kao
eement or disagreement. yes, of course. you can use it as you like. i actually wanted to post it to the whole mailing list but somehow i accidently replied directly to you. > To clarify, this is not a HOWTO. It is a recipe, simple step-by-step > instructions to achieve a particular configuration of

[Fwd: Re: RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish]

2003-01-15 Thread Adam
wrote: Subject: Re: RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish From: CAiRO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 13 Jan 2003 08:22:54 +0100 hi, i'll just write down what comes to my mind while reading your howto. > I have written an introduction to configuri

Re: RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish

2003-01-13 Thread Adam
Thank you for your response. Chris Lale wrote: Looks good! I cannot see any copyright though. You might consider the GNU Free Documentation Licence. Thank you, I have gone to the website and added the GNU Free Documentation License Copyright notice to my web page. If you join the Newbiedoc list

Re: RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish

2003-01-13 Thread Chris Lale
Hello Adam. Adam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I have written an introduction to configuring sawfish, called "How To > Make Sawfish Do Nothing". The official version is and will be at > http://www.ideogram.com/do-nothing/sawfish.html A text version is > included belo

RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish

2003-01-12 Thread Adam
(I forgot to include the text version, how embarassing.) I have written an introduction to configuring sawfish, called "How To Make Sawfish Do Nothing". The official version is and will be at http://www.ideogram.com/do-nothing/sawfish.html A text version is included below for your c

RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish

2003-01-12 Thread Adam
I have written an introduction to configuring sawfish, called "How To Make Sawfish Do Nothing". The official version is and will be at http://www.ideogram.com/do-nothing/sawfish.html A text version is included below for your convenience. The target audience is the novice Linux user w

Re: sawfish makes itself x-window-manager

2002-12-06 Thread Erik Steffl
Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:23:04PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: Colin Watson wrote: dpkg is one of those packages that has a lot of bugs but by and large works pretty well. Looking purely at the number of bugs and ignoring the fact that it's mostly very solid, tested code is n

Re: sawfish makes itself x-window-manager

2002-12-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:23:04PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > >dpkg is one of those packages that has a lot of bugs but by and large > >works pretty well. Looking purely at the number of bugs and ignoring the > >fact that it's mostly very solid, tested code is not really rati

Re: sawfish makes itself x-window-manager

2002-12-04 Thread Erik Steffl
Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 08:26:28AM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: anyway, I guess I'll just be careful restarting WM and hope it'll get fixed eventually... considering the number of old bugs (few years old) it doesn't seem to make any sense to file bugs... are they re-impplementi

Re: sid-sawfish windows borders missing

2002-12-03 Thread Phil Reardon
Thanks for your help. When I typed sawfish at the prompt, I got the borders and decorations, and also an access error on the session. When I checked, I saw identd was the owner of .sawfish/sessions, so I changed that. Works now. Phil Reardon On Monday 02 December 2002 22:14, Oki DZ wrote

Re: sid-sawfish windows borders missing

2002-12-02 Thread Oki DZ
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:00:15PM -0700, Phil Reardon wrote: > I just did a dist-upgrade from stable to unstable and all is well except my > windows have no borders, so I can't resize or move them at all. It seems that your wm (sawfish) wasn't running yet. Try to get an xt

sid-sawfish windows borders missing

2002-12-02 Thread Phil Reardon
I just did a dist-upgrade from stable to unstable and all is well except my windows have no borders, so I can't resize or move them at all. How can I do turn on windows borders? Thanks, Phil Reardon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

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