Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-12 Thread David Christensen
On 07/12/13 03:10, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Stan - I assume you mean the Adaptec 6405E: It's the best little SOHO RAID card for the money IMO, and the most flexible WRT PCIe slots, Okay. eats a $50 port that can be part of a RAID set. You can attach that SSD to a free mobo SATA port and use cl

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/11/2013 11:23 PM, David Christensen wrote: > On 07/10/13 23:12, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > On 07/11/13 09:25, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > Thank you both for your insights. :-) > > > Stan - I assume you mean the Adaptec 6405E: > > https://www.adaptec.com/en-us/products/series/

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/11/2013 10:03 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jul 2013, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >>> 1. If you're buying enterprise RAID arrays, you should have matching disks >>> and firmware, and they must be in the vendor approved list. Best to get >>> them all from the same vendor. >> >>

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-11 Thread David Christensen
On 07/10/13 23:12, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 07/11/13 09:25, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Thank you both for your insights. :-) Stan - I assume you mean the Adaptec 6405E: https://www.adaptec.com/en-us/products/series/6e/ That looks like a nice card, and Adaptec is a name I respect.

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > 1. If you're buying enterprise RAID arrays, you should have matching disks > > and firmware, and they must be in the vendor approved list. Best to get > > them all from the same vendor. > > This is also true of quality PCIe RAID HBAs. LSI and Adaptec

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/11/2013 8:17 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Anyway, I will make a summary that actually separates the apples from the > oranges, because we were clearly talking about different things: No, we are talking about the exact same things. > 1. If you're buying enterprise RAID arrays, yo

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/11/2013 4:44 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: ... > So please, do [NOT] tell people that they should use drives from different > vendors with mismatched firmware on a real RAID controller ... Correction inserted in brackets above. The statement should be in the negative, not the affirmative. -- St

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 7/11/2013 11:25 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Jul 2013, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >>> At some point in the future, I may buy one or two additional HDD and use > >>> hardware RAID. > >> > >> It's best to use identical drives with id

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-11 Thread Chris Davies
Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 7/11/2013 3:43 AM, Chris Davies wrote: >> Can you help clarify, please? > Se my detailed response to Henrique. Thank you Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.o

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/11/2013 3:43 AM, Chris Davies wrote: > Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> It's best to use identical drives with identical firmware, which means >> buying all your drives up front from the same lot. > > I had always understood that best practice was the opposite of this > recommendation, so as to help

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/11/2013 11:25 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jul 2013, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >>> At some point in the future, I may buy one or two additional HDD and use >>> hardware RAID. >> >> It's best to use identical drives with identical firmware, which means >> buying all your drive

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > At some point in the future, I may buy one or two additional HDD and use > > hardware RAID. > > It's best to use identical drives with identical firmware, which means > buying all your drives up front from the same lot. You also need to That is a fas

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-11 Thread Chris Davies
Stan Hoeppner wrote: > It's best to use identical drives with identical firmware, which means > buying all your drives up front from the same lot. I had always understood that best practice was the opposite of this recommendation, so as to help protect against a single point of failure such as ba

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/10/2013 11:03 PM, David Christensen wrote: > On 07/10/13 17:04, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> LSI HBAs are acknowledged as the most Linux compatible/friendly and >> highest performance HBAs/RAID cards available. The 9211-4i is the least >> expensive HBA in their lineup, a PCIe 2.0 x4 card w/4 ports

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-10 Thread David Christensen
On 07/10/13 17:04, Stan Hoeppner wrote: LSI HBAs are acknowledged as the most Linux compatible/friendly and highest performance HBAs/RAID cards available. The 9211-4i is the least expensive HBA in their lineup, a PCIe 2.0 x4 card w/4 ports. Thanks for the reply. I see you still favor LSI prod

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/9/2013 9:45 PM, David Christensen wrote: > On 07/09/13 07:21, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> x1, x4, or x8 slot width? > > x1 or x4. > >> Price range? > > Under $50 per SATA3 port, including cables, whatever. > >> Expected performance level? > > Comparable to current/ recent Intel desktop chipse

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-09 Thread David Christensen
On 07/09/13 07:34, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Also, keep clear of anything that has straps (jumper blocks) to select internal/external ports (*even if said jumper blocks are not installed in the printed circuit board*). They cause violations of SATA3 phy (electrical signaling) parameters

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-09 Thread David Christensen
On 07/09/13 07:21, Stan Hoeppner wrote: x1, x4, or x8 slot width? x1 or x4. Price range? Under $50 per SATA3 port, including cables, whatever. Expected performance level? Comparable to current/ recent Intel desktop chipsets/ motherboards. Workstation or dedicated server? Workstat

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 09 Jul 2013, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 7/7/2013 12:55 PM, David Christensen wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter with good > > FOSS licensing/ documentation/ support? I'm looking for at least two > > SATA 3 ports; four port

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/7/2013 12:55 PM, David Christensen wrote: > Can anyone recommend a PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter with good > FOSS licensing/ documentation/ support? I'm looking for at least two > SATA 3 ports; four ports would be ideal. I don't need RAID. x1, x4, or x8 slot

PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-07 Thread David Christensen
debian-user: Can anyone recommend a PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter with good FOSS licensing/ documentation/ support? I'm looking for at least two SATA 3 ports; four ports would be ideal. I don't need RAID. TIA, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: Sata 3

2010-10-21 Thread GeraldCC
On Thursday, October 21, 2010 06:29:35 pm Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:56:19 +1000, GeraldCC wrote: > > (...) > > > It does seem to me, at least, the kernel does not really support Sata 3 > > out of the boxes. This is a new box, and I have just upgraded it

Re: Sata 3

2010-10-21 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:56:19 +1000, GeraldCC wrote: (...) > It does seem to me, at least, the kernel does not really support Sata 3 > out of the boxes. This is a new box, and I have just upgraded it to all > Sata 3 drives. When it only had 1 Sata 3 drive and 2 Sata 2 drives it > ran

Re: Sata 3

2010-10-21 Thread Berni Elbourn
GeraldCC wrote: Debian (All flavours) just does not run properly. By that I mean the system just behaves oddly. Some things do not work and rebooting also gives "X" problems. Something here to suggest latest kernels needed ... http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-kernel/2010/6/15/4583184

Sata 3

2010-10-20 Thread GeraldCC
Hi to all, Sata 3 seems to have problems with all versions of Linux that I have thrown at them. PClinuxOS 2010.07 on right click with mouse make the system non-responsive,no keyboard or mouse clicks, and basically no real screen display-only a white screen and no "X" on rebooting. D

Re: Sata 3

2010-10-20 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:21:47 +1000, GeraldCC wrote: > Has anyone had any problems running Debian or indeed any other OS in > raid 1 on Sata 3 drives. > It does appear to me that Sata 3 is not really supported in the latest > kernels, if that is where support actually lies. Geral

Sata 3

2010-10-20 Thread GeraldCC
Hi to all, Has anyone had any problems running Debian or indeed any other OS in raid 1 on Sata 3 drives. It does appear to me that Sata 3 is not really supported in the latest kernels, if that is where support actually lies. Gerald -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ