Hi,
On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 00:21:31 +0200
Kaj Persson <70147pers...@telia.com> wrote:
> Thank you for all answers and advices. A silly question, perhaps: Do I
> need take any special steps for the transform, or is just e.g.
>
> apt-get --autoremove remove pulseaudio
>
> sufficient, and the
On 2019-06-04 at 23:47, Joe Dennigan wrote:
Dan Ritter writes:
Kaj Persson wrote:
I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is by
default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which is the
best strategy to remove Pulseaudio and instead letting Alsa be t
On Wednesday 05 June 2019 02:02:59 pm deloptes wrote:
> Renato Gallo wrote:
> > I personally use pulse on chrome and firefox without problems of any
> > sort
>
> same here but I'm not using chrome at all. I use from time to time BT
> audio and pulse comes handy there. I am not sure if alsa can han
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> As does firefox-esr 60.6.3esr-1 in buster, it seems. I didn't know about
> about:buildconfig before. Handy.
>
> I don't know the exact story, but I've heard pieces of it over the last
> year or two. Apparently at one point upstream decided not to support
> direct ALSA an
Renato Gallo wrote:
> I personally use pulse on chrome and firefox without problems of any sort
same here but I'm not using chrome at all. I use from time to time BT audio
and pulse comes handy there. I am not sure if alsa can handle this.
Joe wrote:
>>
>> [1] The problem with "modern" is that it carries with itself a value
>> judgement, as a stowaway, so to speak. If you ain't "modern",
>> you're a luddite or something. That kind of thing makes communication
>> hard. It's difficult to listen, with all that shouting.
>
> Never for
Hi,
On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 12:27:30 +0200
wrote:
(...)
> What miffs me is that no-one in this thread seems to really care
> enough to go check the sources. But then, some still seem to care
> enough to go ballistic and complain loudly.
>
> As I said, I'm happy with my Firefox having no sound (it ha
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 08:34:59AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 12:34:49PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > I hope I am believed when I say that firefox in unstable (67.0.1) has
> > --enable-alsa in about:buildconfig. And sound works without pulseaudio.
>
> As does firefox-esr 60.6
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 08:43:31AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:12:54AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > If you don't care about those things -- or are in for some
> > fiddling -- by all means, drop Pulse, and tell us others about
> > it!
> When I do youtube stuff in
ent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 2:43:31 PM
Subject: Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:12:54AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> If you don't care about those things -- or are in for some
> fiddling -- by all means, drop Pulse, and tell us others about
>
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:12:54AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> If you don't care about those things -- or are in for some
> fiddling -- by all means, drop Pulse, and tell us others about
> it!
I never installed it to begin with. And my primary browsing has been in
google-chrome-stable for qu
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 12:34:49PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> I hope I am believed when I say that firefox in unstable (67.0.1) has
> --enable-alsa in about:buildconfig. And sound works without pulseaudio.
As does firefox-esr 60.6.3esr-1 in buster, it seems. I didn't know about
about:buildconfig befor
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 12:34:49PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 05 Jun 2019 at 12:08:00 +0200, Michael Lange wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 05:38:18 -0400
> > Dan Ritter wrote:
> >
> >
> > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661
> > >
> > > That was two years ago.
On Wed 05 Jun 2019 at 12:27:30 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Anyone out there care to download the Debian source package and
> check what the compile options are? This *must* be visible in the
> Debian-specific patches, right?
Not necessary. Use about:buildconfig.
--
Brian.
On Wed 05 Jun 2019 at 12:08:00 +0200, Michael Lange wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 05:38:18 -0400
> Dan Ritter wrote:
>
>
> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661
> >
> > That was two years ago.
>
> yes, I remember the discussions about that, but still here audio in
> fi
On Mi, Jun 05, 2019 at 11:20:58 +0200, Michael Lange wrote:
Georgi Naplatanov wrote:
If you don't use PulseAudio then only one application can use an ALSA
device at the same time on your computer.
really? Here I can play back a video in firefox and play another video
No, I don’t think so.
II
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 12:13:54PM +0200, Michael Lange wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 11:33:15 +0200
> wrote:
>
>
> > Now don't expect your distro maintainer's to continue indefinitely
> > maintaining your firefox's port in a non-standard configuration.
> >
>
> sure, I don't expect anyt
Hi,
On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 11:33:15 +0200
wrote:
> Now don't expect your distro maintainer's to continue indefinitely
> maintaining your firefox's port in a non-standard configuration.
>
sure, I don't expect anything in particular ;)
But I believe I can perfectly wait with taking action until it
Hi,
On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 05:38:18 -0400
Dan Ritter wrote:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661
>
> That was two years ago.
yes, I remember the discussions about that, but still here audio in
firefox without PA never ceased to work.
Actually I always wondered if anyone really t
On Wed, 2019-06-05 at 11:17 +0200, Michael Lange wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:55:34 -0400
> Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> > Kaj Persson wrote:
> > > I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the
> > > Pulseaudio is
> > > by default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor
Michael Lange wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:55:34 -0400
> Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> > Kaj Persson wrote:
> > > I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is
> > > by default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which
> > > is the best strategy to re
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 11:20:58AM +0200, Michael Lange wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 22:51:31 +0300
> Georgi Naplatanov wrote:
[...]
> > If you don't use PulseAudio then only one application can use an ALSA
> > device at the same time on your computer.
>
> really? Here I can play back a
Hi,
On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 22:51:31 +0300
Georgi Naplatanov wrote:
> On 6/4/19 10:24 PM, Kaj Persson wrote:
> > I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is
> > by default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which
> > is the best strategy to remove Pulseaudi
Hi,
On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:55:34 -0400
Dan Ritter wrote:
> Kaj Persson wrote:
> > I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is
> > by default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which
> > is the best strategy to remove Pulseaudio and instead letting Alsa
On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 10:06:23 +0200
wrote:
>
> [1] The problem with "modern" is that it carries with itself a value
>judgement, as a stowaway, so to speak. If you ain't "modern",
> you're a luddite or something. That kind of thing makes communication
> hard. It's difficult to listen, with all
humbert.olivie...@free.fr wrote:
> Depending on your needs. PA is good at resampling easily different audio
> flows at different samplerate. Much easily that what one can do with ALSA.
>
> Olivier
Yes and integration with other subsystems like bluetooth and dbus
On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 10:51:31PM +0300, Georgi Naplatanov wrote:
[...]
> PulseAudio is some kind of mixer/proxy between ALSA and desktop
> applications. In modern GNU/Linux OSes it's discouraged to remove/not
> using PulseAudio.
Because... Reasons. What is a "modern GNU/Linux OS" anyway?
This
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 07:40:30AM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Tue, 2019-06-04 at 22:51 +0300, Georgi Naplatanov wrote:
> [...]
> > If you don't use PulseAudio then only one application can use an ALSA
> > device at the same time on your computer. Even some applications
> > support
> > PulseAudio only.
On 04/06/2019 20:24, Kaj Persson wrote:
I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is
by default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which
is the best strategy to remove Pulseaudio and instead letting Alsa be
the one and only audio system? Are there any
On Tue, 2019-06-04 at 22:51 +0300, Georgi Naplatanov wrote:
[...]
> If you don't use PulseAudio then only one application can use an ALSA
> device at the same time on your computer. Even some applications
> support
> PulseAudio only.
Like Firefox, that was the reason I relented and installed Pulse
> ALSA itself is capable enough that I don't see the point of
> an audio server like pulseaudio.
Depending on your needs. PA is good at resampling easily different audio flows
at different samplerate.
Much easily that what one can do with ALSA.
Olivier
humbert.olivie...@free.fr writes:
>> If you don't use PulseAudio then only one application can use
>> an ALSA device at the same time on your computer.
>
> This is untrue. ALSA provides dmix for mixing different audio flows.
>
> Olivier
What's more, the default device uses dmix. And I find it a
Dan Ritter writes:
> Kaj Persson wrote:
>> I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is by
>> default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which is the
>> best strategy to remove Pulseaudio and instead letting Alsa be the one and
>> only audio system? Are
One thing you might try is to edit /etc/pulse/daemon.conf, and set:
flat-volumes = no
This will fix most problems with pulseaudio, and alsa will work pretty
much as expected.
John
BTW, automatic volume control was added in Windows 10. This was the
era that pulseaudio was developed, an
> If you don't use PulseAudio then only one application can use
> an ALSA device at the same time on your computer.
This is untrue. ALSA provides dmix for mixing different audio flows.
Olivier
On 6/4/19 10:24 PM, Kaj Persson wrote:
> I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is by
> default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which is
> the best strategy to remove Pulseaudio and instead letting Alsa be the
> one and only audio system?
PulseAudi
Kaj Persson wrote:
> I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is by
> default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which is the
> best strategy to remove Pulseaudio and instead letting Alsa be the one and
> only audio system? Are there any serious disadvan
I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is by
default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which is
the best strategy to remove Pulseaudio and instead letting Alsa be the
one and only audio system? Are there any serious disadvantages doing so?
/Kaj
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