>
Can you clarify: does it have fewer CVEs because
Devuan is Debian without systemd and I believe it is explained by the fact
that systemds coding standards are quite poor which is confirmed by
analysing atleast some of the bugs. Is some explained by more new code and
attention; probably.
The
On 2025-09-12 14:22:34 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
> If you just want to see all "mail-related" messages with journalctl, you
> can use
>
> $ journalctl --facility mail
Indeed, thanks a lot!
> That doesn't help with journalctl's slowness if the journal has grown
> big, of course.
It actuall
On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 11:37:22 -, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> >
> > I will try to install rsyslog by first. thanks Greg.
>
> Another option is Devuan (Debian without systemd) which has less CVEs
> anyway.
Suggesting that someone replace their *entire* operating system
just because Debian no lo
12.09.25, 14:05 +0200, Greg Wooledge:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 13:24:37 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
>> On 2025-09-09 22:20:01 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>>> Or, if you don't care about those files and just want to read the systemd
>>> log files, you can use journalctl(1). Specifically, a comm
On 2025-09-12 08:05:58 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> The other thing you might need to know is that you can get different
> levels of verbosity when you run the journalctl command as root vs.
> non-root. When you "only" got the Starting and Finished messages,
> I'm betting you ran the journalctl c
On 2025-09-12 16:10:38 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2025-09-12 09:53:31 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > hobbit:~$ journalctl -u ssh
> > Hint: You are currently not seeing messages from other users and the system.
> > Users in groups 'adm', 'systemd-journal' can see all messages.
> >
On 2025-09-12 16:17:32 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
> I remembered differently. And since I tend to make sure that the journal
> doesn't grow too big nowadays, I didn't expect a noticeable difference
> on my machines. Should have checked before presenting something as a
> fact, though...
Timing
Greg Wooledge (HE12025-09-12):
> Users in groups 'adm', 'systemd-journal' can see all messages.
Not root, users in these groups.
Though how you managed to install your system and get yourself
authorized for sudo bot not at least in the adm group is anybody's
guess.
Regards,
--
Nicolas
12.09.25, 15:50 +0200, Vincent Lefevre:
> On 2025-09-12 14:22:34 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
>> If you just want to see all "mail-related" messages with journalctl, you
>> can use
>>
>> $ journalctl --facility mail
>
> Indeed, thanks a lot!
>
>> That doesn't help with journalctl's slowness i
Greg writes:
> I don't have postfix installed on a system with systemd/journal
> logging, so I can't directly demonstrate everything. I'm relying on
> people to do some things correctly on their own.
I do.
toncho/~/polo 20 journalctl --facility mail
Hint: You are currently not seeing messages fr
On 2025-09-12 09:53:31 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> hobbit:~$ journalctl -u ssh
> Hint: You are currently not seeing messages from other users and the system.
> Users in groups 'adm', 'systemd-journal' can see all messages.
> Pass -q to turn off this notice.
> -- No entries --
> hobbit
On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 15:36:35 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2025-09-12 08:05:58 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > The other thing you might need to know is that you can get different
> > levels of verbosity when you run the journalctl command as root vs.
> > non-root. When you "only" got the
The other thing you might need to know is that you can get different
levels of verbosity when you run the journalctl command as root vs.
non-root. When you "only" got the Starting and Finished messages,
I'm betting you ran the journalctl command as a non-root user. Try it
as root.
Which co
On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 13:24:37 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2025-09-09 22:20:01 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Or, if you don't care about those files and just want to read the systemd
> > log files, you can use journalctl(1). Specifically, a command like
> >
> > journalctl -u postfi
On 2025-09-09 22:20:01 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Or, if you don't care about those files and just want to read the systemd
> log files, you can use journalctl(1). Specifically, a command like
>
> journalctl -u postfix
>
> where "postfix" is the systemd service name in question, will show
I will try to install rsyslog by first. thanks Greg.
Another option is Devuan (Debian without systemd) which has less CVEs
anyway.
--
Regards, Kc
Kevin Chadwick (HE12025-09-10):
> Another option is Devuan (Debian without systemd) which has less CVEs
> anyway.
Can you clarify: does it have fewer CVEs because it has fewer security
flaws, or does it have fewer CVEs because it has all the security flaws
in Debian but nobody bothered to register
On 2025-09-10 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 01:25:33 +, Rob Hoo wrote:
>> I found that after I installed postfix by apt, mail.log was not appeared
>> in /var/log/.
>>
>> do you know how can I check the mail log then?
>
> Is the rsyslog package installed? It's not inst
On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 01:25:33 +, Rob Hoo wrote:
> I found that after I installed postfix by apt, mail.log was not appeared
> in /var/log/.
>
> do you know how can I check the mail log then?
Is the rsyslog package installed? It's not installed by default in newer
releases, so you would nee
Hi,
On Thu Nov 21, 2024 at 6:30 AM GMT, David Wright wrote:
> But can I ask you why you stopped using f=f when you changed address.
It wasn't a change of address, but a change of MUA or MUA config. I
certainly had it enabled at some point with mutt, and I changed the
way I used mutt (from mostly
On 11/21/24 19:01, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 18:32:38 -0500, gene heskett wrote:
The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where.
No, =20 is "quoted printable" encoding. It's extremely common for
email; it can be used whenever the source content is HTM
On Wed 20 Nov 2024 at 11:35:28 (-0500), eben@… wrote:
> On 11/20/24 10:49, David Wright wrote:
> > On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote:
> > > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote:
>
> > > > Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves you as "-- ",
> > > > which it seems
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 18:32:38 -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where.
No, =20 is "quoted printable" encoding. It's extremely common for
email; it can be used whenever the source content is HTML or plain text
or a calendar invitation o
On 11/21/24 10:00, e...@gmx.us wrote:
On 11/20/24 15:31, gene heskett wrote:
On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote:
On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote:
On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
Just for kicks:
This line has no traili
On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 10:11:56 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 20/11/2024 22:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, eben wrote:
>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> > > This line has one
On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 14:38:02 (-0500), eben wrote:
> On 11/21/24 11:46, eben wrote:
> > On 11/21/24 11:07, eben wrote:
> >> On 11/20/24 10:13, eben wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just for kicks:
> >>> This line has no trailing spaces.
> >>> This line has one trailing space.
> >>> This line has two trailing spa
On 11/21/24 11:46, e...@gmx.us wrote:
> On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote:
>> On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote:
>>
>>> Just for kicks:
>>> This line has no trailing spaces.
>>> This line has one trailing space.
>>> This line has two trailing spaces.
>>
>> OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" fr
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:46:01 -0500
e...@gmx.us wrote:
Hello e...@gmx.us,
>This is a long line that is more than seventy-two characters that
>should end with a space. It is wrapped on my end.
>
>This is a long line that is more than seventy-two characters that
>should end with two spaces. It is al
On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote:
> On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote:
>
>> Just for kicks:
>> This line has no trailing spaces.
>> This line has one trailing space.
>> This line has two trailing spaces.
>
> OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false. Now to see if it
> makes a di
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:07:07 -0500
e...@gmx.us wrote:
Hello e...@gmx.us,
>This line has no trailing spaces.
>This line has one trailing space.
>This line has two trailing spaces.
No trailing spaces anywhere. Sorry. :-(
--
Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"
On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote:
OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false. Now to see if it
makes a difference:
This line has no trailing spaces.
This line has one trailing space.
This line has two trailing spaces.
Narrator: It did not.
On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote:
Just for kicks:
This line has no trailing spaces.
This line has one trailing space.
This line has two trailing spaces.
OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false. Now to see if it
makes a difference:
This line has no trailing spaces.
This line
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 10:00:11AM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
> On 11/20/24 15:31, gene heskett wrote:
> > On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote:
> > > On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote:
> > > > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us
On 21/11/2024 10:11, Max Nikulin wrote:
Eben, you may try to inspect sources of your messages ([Ctrl+U]) from
sent and draft folders.
Interesting, signature separator is lost by gmane, see
w3m -m 'nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user/622024'
however it is present in USENET group and w
On 11/20/24 15:31, gene heskett wrote:
On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote:
On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote:
On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
Just for kicks:
This line has no trailing spaces.
This line has one trailing s
On 21/11/2024 15:10, gene heskett wrote:
That doesn't affect the dozens of miss-configured email agents here that violate
those SOP's for text emails.
My mail filter for debian-user seems to be working OK, everything sent to the
right place. Maybe it's because I have fewer filters than you (3
On 11/20/24 23:46, John Crawley wrote:
On 21/11/2024 05:31, gene heskett wrote:
Which is what I am sending from latest t-bird in what I think is plain
text, as below, and it works, my too long comment is not greyed out in
the incoming echo from the listserver. You should see it incoming but
no
On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 15:32:47 (+), Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Tue Nov 19, 2024 at 3:02 PM GMT, eben wrote:
> > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k
> > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see?
>
> I'm afraid not. Looking at your
On 11/21/24 01:10, gene heskett wrote:
On 11/20/24 23:46, John Crawley wrote:
On 21/11/2024 05:31, gene heskett wrote:
Which is what I am sending from latest t-bird in what I think is
plain text, as below, and it works, my too long comment is not greyed
out in the incoming echo from the listse
On 21/11/2024 05:31, gene heskett wrote:
Which is what I am sending from latest t-bird in what I think is plain text, as
below, and it works, my too long comment is not greyed out in the incoming echo
from the listserver. You should see it incoming but not in a reply you make
that quotes my ms
On 2024-11-20 at 12:08, e...@gmx.us wrote:
> On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote:
>>> Does anyone using Thunderbird _not_ get trailing spaces stripped,
>>> or is it just me?
>>
>> I don't (see signature below), but it may be worth noting that I
On 20/11/2024 22:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, eben wrote:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
This line has one trailing space.
[...]
This line has two leading and two trailing spaces.
On Wed 20 Nov 2024 at 11:35:28 (-0500), eben@… wrote:
> > So, naturally you use an editor to compose your posts.
>
> Not sure why you would assume that, but let's run with it. How would I
> configure Tbird do do such a thing? I see no relevant settings for "editor"
> or "path" but maybe they're
eben composed on 2024-11-20 12:08 (UTC-0500):
> BTW I received your separator as "--=20". But that's once saved as eml.
> Onscreen it looks fine, and the signature is greyed out. Anyone know how to
> get a pure text version, if such a thing exists?
Where is your .sig coming from? If it's in a p
On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote:
On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote:
On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
Just for kicks:
This line has no trailing spaces.
This line has one trailing space.
This line has two trailing spaces.
On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote:
On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
Just for kicks:
This line has no trailing spaces.
This line has one trailing space.
This line has two trailing spaces.
In the message I received, none of th
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:08:02 -0500
e...@gmx.us wrote:
> Anyone know how to
> get a pure text version, if such a thing exists?
Possibly storing one's emails in maildir format. Each email is its own
raw text file. Suitable grepping or use of mairix or the like should
then locate particular messages
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:08:02PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
> On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote:
> > On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >
> > > > If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing
> > > > HTML email, and
On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote:
On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing
HTML email, and then translating it to plain text, with trailing
spaces being lost during that translation.
On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
Just for kicks:
This line has no trailing spaces.
This line has one trailing space.
This line has two trailing spaces.
In the message I received, none of these lines have any trailing
spaces.
D
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 09:49:58AM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote:
> > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 eben@… wrote:
> > >
> > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k
On 11/20/24 10:49, David Wright wrote:
On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote:
On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote:
Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves you as "-- ",
which it seems to be based on your attached image, I'm not sure what's
happening.
I guess u
On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote:
> On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing
>> HTML email, and then translating it to plain text, with trailing
>> spaces being lost during that translation. Including the trailing
>> space
On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote:
> On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 eben@… wrote:
> >
> > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k
> > > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
> Just for kicks:
> This line has no trailing spaces.
> This line has one trailing space.
> This line has two trailing spaces.
In the message I received, none of these lines have any trailing
spaces.
If I had to guess, I would guess that
On 11/20/24 00:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:41:25PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500
e...@gmx.us wrote:
Hello e...@gmx.us,
That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k
attachme
Response below/inline for email e...@gmx.us wrote:
> (original email sent 19 Nov 2024 at 10:02)
>
> That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k
> attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see?
Your post/email comes through without the space after t
On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:41:25PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
> On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500
> > e...@gmx.us wrote:
> >
> > Hello e...@gmx.us,
> >
> > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k
> > > attachment. This mess
On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500
e...@gmx.us wrote:
Hello e...@gmx.us,
That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k
attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see?
I see what Jonathan sees.
Your sig separ
19.11.24, 16:02 +0100 e...@gmx.us:
> On 11/19/24 05:19, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sun Nov 17, 2024 at 7:05 PM GMT, eben wrote:
>>> --
>>
>> Just to point out that the mail signature separator is '-- ', i.e. with
>> a suffixed ' ' character. Without it, Mail User Agent programs may n
On Tue Nov 19, 2024 at 3:02 PM GMT, eben wrote:
> That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k
> attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see?
I'm afraid not. Looking at your message source, I see
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
and
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500
e...@gmx.us wrote:
Hello e...@gmx.us,
>That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k
>attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see?
I see what Jonathan sees.
Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves
On 11/19/24 05:19, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
Hi,
On Sun Nov 17, 2024 at 7:05 PM GMT, eben wrote:
--
Just to point out that the mail signature separator is '-- ', i.e. with
a suffixed ' ' character. Without it, Mail User Agent programs may not
recognise your signature as such.
That is what I
Hans writes:
> Dear list,
>
> does anyone know, where kmail is storing its tags for mails? The tags I mean
> are those like "already read".
I've never done that but maybe this helps, from
https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kmail/kmail2/faq.html#transfer-mail-and-settings:
6.10. How do I transfer
On 24/09/2022 02:37, jr wrote:
On Thursday, 22 September 2022 at 16:30:05 UTC+1, Max Nikulin wrote:
...
Debian mail list archive has a rare mhonarc configuration that adds
reply to list action (usually only reply to sender is available) and
these mailto: links contain proper In-Reply-To value
ht
On 8/20/22 23:36, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
Hi,
I'm having problem with my actuel email provider (the one that goes
with my web hosting plan) ...
... would you have any suggestion for a service ?
On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, David Christensen wrote:
I have had a domain host plan (
On Sunday, August 21, 2022 01:09:09 PM Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Well, if we are going to plug services, shellworld is fantastic!
> Even under new management service remains profoundly wonderful.
> My personal site is hosted here too, with my paying $60 for both
> accounts.
Is that shellworld.net?
suppose that applies to Jude as well.
On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, john doe wrote:
On 8/21/2022 8:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Can you stop hijacking this thread and stop promoting your own interest.
--
John Doe
On 8/21/2022 8:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Can you stop hijacking this thread and stop promoting your own interest.
--
John Doe
Wow, that is profoundly unfortunate.
Did you ever investigate via the admin at the time?
Have been with shellworld more than 20 years now. makes me wonder if
that was back in the block an address suspected, even with no reason,
days?
Microsoft did that to me to hotmail, and the admin at the
After I got blacklisted on shellworld.net I moved on to panix.com with
much dislocation some of which took me a couple years to correct. The
blacklisting wasn't done by shellworld.net either. I found out about the
blacklisting by looking my shellworld.net address up with google and the
one that p
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 12:39:18PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> I have had a telnet account with panix.com I think for 8 years and service
> has been excellent. Webmail is also available for those that want it.
> Telnet accounts here cost $100 per year. I chose telnet since I do better
> with cl
Well, if we are going to plug services, shellworld is fantastic!
Even under new management service remains profoundly wonderful.
My personal site is hosted here too, with my paying $60 for both
accounts.
Not to cast a cloud on Jude's suggestion below, but my personal efforts to
explore Panix wer
I have had a telnet account with panix.com I think for 8 years and service
has been excellent. Webmail is also available for those that want it.
Telnet accounts here cost $100 per year. I chose telnet since I do better
with cli than gui.
Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of libe
David,
I am sure you are respecting security, but can we have a way to research
hurricane electrics mail shell options?
Thanks,
On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, David Christensen wrote:
On 8/20/22 23:36, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
Hi,
I'm having problem with my actuel email provider (t
On 8/20/22 23:36, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
Hi,
I'm having problem with my actuel email provider (the one that goes with
my web hosting plan). It deals badly with mailing list and now has
started to having delivery problem to email hosted by outlook.com . I
believe their email server
Eskimo.com is $7/month for mail + Linux shell access
(multiple servers, various distributions including Debian).
* Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
[22-08/21=Su 02:36 -0400]:
> Hi,
> I'm having problem with my actuel email provider (the one that goes with
> my web hosting plan). It deals badly w
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> I'd like a good email provider, as I ain't sure this (Postmark) will
> fix all my delivery problem. Would it be better to get a paying plain
> with Protonmail, who do offer a plan with IMAP/SMTP ?
It's always better to get a paid plan. I've been using Pobo
On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, mick.crane wrote:
> On 2022-08-21 07:36, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>
>> I'd like a good email provider, as I ain't sure this (Postmark) will
>> fix
>> all my delivery problem. Would it be better to get a paying plain with
>> Protonmail, who do offer a plan with IM
Hi Polyna-Maude,
* Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside [2022-08-21; 02:36]:
> I'm having problem with my actuel email provider (the one that goes with
> my web hosting plan). It deals badly with mailing list and now has
> started to having delivery problem to email hosted by outlook.com . I
> believe
On 2022-08-21 07:36, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
I'd like a good email provider, as I ain't sure this (Postmark) will
fix
all my delivery problem. Would it be better to get a paying plain with
Protonmail, who do offer a plan with IMAP/SMTP ?
People have recommended posteo.de
They s
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 02:36:15AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm having problem with my actuel email provider (the one that goes with
> my web hosting plan). It deals badly with mailing list and now has
> started to having delivery problem to email hosted by outlook.com
Hi,
i mean Server's sending all messages to our main mail account - like script
outputs, general errors from services, kern.log and so on.
we do already use mailfilter to direct same mails into same directory.
my goal is it to read less mails -> only mails with (unkown) errors
But spamassassin
Philipp Ewald wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
>
> our server sending all message to our main Mail Account.
> Thats good we don't wanna change that. All Server sending all messages to
> this address, mostly its not important.
>
>
> I want to define "good" messages (with regex?) that can be filtered. Is
deloptes writes:
> fxkl47BF wrote:
>
>> no offense taken
>> i use expect_mkpasswd to generate passwords
>> decades ago i got tired of trying to come up with user names
>> i just use expect_mkpasswd to make a short unique name
>> today everyone is trying to glean all of the personal info they can
On Du, 10 oct 21, 10:31:58, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > In general, the circumstances which would require one to use a tool like
> > protonmail are not commonly observed in connection with a list like
> > debian-user.
>
> While protonmail might be used for such situations, in my experience
> most pr
On Du, 10 oct 21, 17:18:13, fxkl47BF wrote:
> just one more thing
>
> posteo was mentioned as an alternative
> i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months
> their spam policy is to bounce it back to the sender
> the account own has no say
>
> i also have a mailfence account i will drop
>
On Du, 10 oct 21, 13:41:33, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> once again i totally agree and disagree
> gmail, yahoo, gmx, etc. state that they scan mail going through their service
They are free to scan all my postings to a publicly archived list, same
as the rest of the internet ;)
Kind regards,
Andrei
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fxkl47BF wrote:
> no offense taken
> i use expect_mkpasswd to generate passwords
> decades ago i got tired of trying to come up with user names
> i just use expect_mkpasswd to make a short unique name
> today everyone is trying to glean all of the personal info they can
> i try not give out any mo
On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 19:46:39 +, fxkl47BF wrote:
[Mangled quoted text deleted]
> > You have a link to a statement of this policy?
> >
> > -
> >
> > Brian.
>
> i do not
> only a personal email from supp...@posteo.de
I tend to take such mails f
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On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 1:46 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 17:18:13 +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> > just one more thing
> >
> > posteo was mentioned as an alternative
> >
> > i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months
> >
> > their spam
On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 17:18:13 +, fxkl47BF wrote:
> just one more thing
>
> posteo was mentioned as an alternative
> i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months
> their spam policy is to bounce it back to the sender
> the account own has no say
You have a link to a statement of this
> In general, the circumstances which would require one to use a tool like
> protonmail are not commonly observed in connection with a list like
> debian-user.
While protonmail might be used for such situations, in my experience
most protonmail users I've seen are just people that are sufficiently
just one more thing
posteo was mentioned as an alternative
i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months
their spam policy is to bounce it back to the sender
the account own has no say
i also have a mailfence account i will drop
a while back i stopped getting mail from my bank
i investigate
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On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 9:31 AM, Stefan Monnier
wrote:
> > In general, the circumstances which would require one to use a tool like
> >
> > protonmail are not commonly observed in connection with a list like
> >
> > debian-user.
>
> While protonmail mig
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On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 9:30 AM, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 01:44:50PM +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> > but on another mailing list i used this same address
> >
> > i was banned
> >
> > the admin apologized and explained later my add
Hi.
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 01:44:50PM +, fxkl47BF wrote:
> but on another mailing list i used this same address
> i was banned
> the admin apologized and explained later my address looked suspicious
Here they do not ban users based on e-mail domain alone.
You have to do something wor
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On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 8:23 AM, Greg Wooledge
wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 09:32:55AM +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> > in a different mailing list it was implied that if a person uses protonmail
> > they must be up to no good
> >
> > i've used protonm
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On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 8:16 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez
wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 01:09:03PM +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> > i understand and respect what you are saying
> >
> > i also reject it
> >
> > we have no way of knowing you are roberto
> >
> >
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 09:32:55AM +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> in a different mailing list it was implied that if a person uses protonmail
> they must be up to no good
> i've used protonmail for about 6 months now and been satisfied
> what am i missing
I suspect I know which mailing list you're t
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