[SOLVED] Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, the trick is to go to the configuration item "Customized Headers" and to add a customized "From:" header. Like From: Full Name One can gets this instruction by pressing the help key "?" on the item "User Domain" and following the "here" link in the third paragraph. By setting my GMX mail

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, by hardcoding my GMX mail address in alpine-2.20/imap/src/c-client/smtp.c, i was able to prove that my workstation hostname in the "MAIL FROM:" argument is indeed the stumblestone which prevented SMTP success with gmx.net. Whew. Now i need to find out how to regularly configure the component

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Nicolas George wrote: > Do try strace, and if > you know a bit of SMTP, which seems the case, you should be able to spot the > problem in a few minutes. It's nearly too late in the evening. But (with alpine 2.20 from source): read(9, "220 gmx.com (mrgmx102) Nemesis E"..., 8192) = 52 wri

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 9 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : > > strace can tell you that and much more, especially if the encryption is done > > by a separate program. > Whatever, the ports and encryption are ok. It's alpine's > way of speaking ESMTP and/or Nemesis' unfilfilled ESMTP > expectations

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright a écrit : > > It would be nice to know which port numbers alpine is trying to > > use. Nicolas George: > strace can tell you that and much more, especially if the encryption is done > by a separate program. I do know the port number if stunnel is involved. Whatever, the ports a

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): > > Were I a user of mail.gmx.net, I would ask them. > > Futile. They'd want me to use the web interface with lots > of advertising. Oh dear. Well, could you attack the problem the other way round and connect alpine to exim, say, on your own machine. U

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 9 thermidor, an CCXXIII, David Wright a écrit : > OK. It would be nice to know which port numbers alpine is trying to > use. strace can tell you that and much more, especially if the encryption is done by a separate program. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Di

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > OK. It would be nice to know which port numbers alpine is trying to > use. It did connect with explicitely setting port 587 for "/tls/". But i bet that neither port nor encryption protocol is the problem. If not alpine mimicks a SMTP error 503 then the connection is good enough to transmit

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): > David Wright wrote: > > > > I can direct alpine unencrypted to port 30029 and see the same > > > effect as with alpine's own encryption via "/ssl/" or "/tls/". > > > I'm sorry if I appear to be thick but I get very little sense from > > "see the same

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Bob Bernstein wrote: > I suggest you join the alpine discussion list. > https://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info Will ask there after i managed to get version 2.20 running from source tarball. (Or after i encountered a showstopper.) Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: > > I can direct alpine unencrypted to port 30029 and see the same > > effect as with alpine's own encryption via "/ssl/" or "/tls/". > I'm sorry if I appear to be thick but I get very little sense from > "see the same effect as with alpine's own encryption". I can't be >

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line > > > in ~/.pinerc: > > > smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net > > David Wright wrote: > > I assume that you're telling me that this does not work, ri

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Bob Bernstein
I suggest you join the alpine discussion list. The current developer pretty much "lives" there, and there is a nice group of subscribers. They talk about this kind of question all the time. https://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info -- I am not a loony. Why should I be t

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-26 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line > > in ~/.pinerc: > > smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net David Wright wrote: > I assume that you're telling me that this does not work, right? Yes. It connects, alpine asks for the SMTP password, and

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-26 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): > David Wright wrote: > > Port 465 should be encrypted straightaway, > > I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line > in ~/.pinerc: > smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net I assume that you're telling me that this does

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: > Port 465 should be encrypted straightaway, I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line in ~/.pinerc: smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net or via stunnel to mail.gmx.net:465 at port NNN by smtp-server=localhost:NNN/user=my_user...@gmx.

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-24 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): > I cannot get alpine mail client to send mail via mail.gmx.net:465. > It reports "Bad sequence of commands" which is probably SMTP error > 503. > My own primitive SMTP client does work (by help of stunnel for SSL). I'm wondering if there's a mismatch i

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Celejar wrote: > https://github.com/deanproxy/eMail/issues/7 Yes. Some client glitch like this one combined with increased pickiness on server side would explain the problem. A sequence that works is for example EHLO scdbackup.webframe.org MAIL FROM: AUTH PLAIN MAIL FROM: RCPT TO:d

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-24 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:49:51 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > after a few weeks of settling i got my Debian 8.1 nearly into > the shape of its deceased predecessor (antique SuSE which died > from southbridge radiator pop-off due to material fatigue). > > Two problems remain: alpine with