Hi,

David Wright wrote:
> Port 465 should be encrypted straightaway, 

I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line
in ~/.pinerc:
  smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net
or via stunnel to mail.gmx.net:465 at port NNN by
  smtp-server=localhost:NNN/user=my_user...@gmx.net
The stunnel port works fine with my own SMTP client which
i need for dealing with some local network and permission
peculiarities.
So encryption is not the problem.

I now tried TLS as proposed by
http://www.cs.duke.edu/csl/security/smtp-auth/pine:
  smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/tls/user=th.schm...@gmx.net
and also
  mail.gmx.net:587/tls/user=th.schm...@gmx.net
(587 is proposed by https://hilfe.gmx.net/sicherheit/ssl.html)
No change in behavior. "Bad sequence of commands", obviously
error 503 sent by the GMX server.

alpine and gmx.net are at odds with the (E)SMTP service.


> What about the logs? Alpine allegedly writes .pine-debug files as
> pine used to (20 years ago in my case) which should show the
> conversation.

None to find in the whole /home tree. But the man page talks
of ~/.pine-debug[1-4]. Will try to enable them.
(Oh yeah the good old times ... 50 MHz CPU, 64 MB RAM, 17" CRT,
 200 W electrical power dissipated by noise and hot air.)


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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