Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-20 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hallo, * Daniel Harris [Mon, Jan 13 2025, 02:26:06PM]: >Hello >I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on >earth is going on with firefox lately.  It is terrible.  So slow and why For the start, please open a tab with "about:processes" (or "about:performa

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-18 Thread Richmond
I don't think anyone mentioned the command line option --new-instance firefox --new-instance Probably you should use it with --ProfileManager firefox --new-instance --ProfileManager Alternatively you can enter about:profiles in the location bar and start a new one from there. If firefox is slo

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-16 Thread John Hasler
Roy J. Tellason, Sr. writes: > I run [both uBlock-origin and NoScript], here. Noscript being the > most recently added. It does make a nontrivial difference... Likewise. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-16 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Wednesday 15 January 2025 09:49:15 pm Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 14/01/2025 17:11, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: > > btw, you need to install noscripts from the extensions panel AND UBlock > > origin or Adblock plus at least if you want to get rid of all ads and > > javascripts code that have

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-16 Thread Dan Ritter
Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 14/01/2025 17:11, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: > > btw, you need to install noscripts from the extensions panel AND UBlock > > origin or Adblock plus at least if you want to get rid of all ads and > > javascripts code that have nothing to with the actual content of the

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-15 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/01/2025 17:11, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: btw, you need to install noscripts from the extensions panel AND UBlock origin or Adblock plus at least if you want to get rid of all ads and javascripts code that have nothing to with the actual content of the sites you browse (and are here

Browsers on remote DISPLAY (was: Re: What is going on with firefox)

2025-01-15 Thread Max Nikulin
On 16/01/2025 00:38, Tim Woodall wrote: I don't think you understand my setup. Remote XDMCP thin client. I have not checked current state of affairs. I believed that it was working greet 20 years ago before hardware graphics acceleration and client-side font rendering. That is why I mentioned

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-15 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Max Nikulin wrote: On 14/01/2025 16:32, Tim Woodall wrote: On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Max Nikulin wrote: On 14/01/2025 04:40, Tim Woodall wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, Daniel Harris wrote: I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/01/2025 16:32, Tim Woodall wrote: On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Max Nikulin wrote: On 14/01/2025 04:40, Tim Woodall wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, Daniel Harris wrote: I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately.  It is terrible. 

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread John Hasler
Stefan writes: > Yes. But it's often(usually?) bugs in the code run within the systems > rather than bugs in the systems themselves. In browsers, the code run > "within the system" is in large part the Javascript code downloaded > from random sites. Install an unloader extension such as New Tab

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>> If that fails, it's time to stop and restart FF. I usually clean the >>> sqlite DBs by going to my FF profile directory and running this (buried >>> in a larger cleanup script): >> A browser, like Windows or any other non-operating system, has to be >> rebooted from time to time. >> The ritual

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 01:34:41PM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello, > > On 14/01/2025 11:45, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > The rituals of rebirth and that. > > Am I the only one to see this as a bug ? I tend to see browsers (as Windows) as big feasts of bugs. Cheers -- t signature.

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello, On 14/01/2025 11:45, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 04:40:38AM -0500, Karl Vogel wrote: [...] If that fails, it's time to stop and restart FF. I usually clean the sqlite DBs by going to my FF profile directory and running this (buried in a larger cleanup script): A

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 11:03:13 +0100, Sijmen J. Mulder wrote: > Feeling you! My browsing experience has also been steadily declining. I > have an i5-6600 with 48 GB of RAM, which is aging, but it shouldn't > struggle having a few video tabs open. YouTube's UI is often actively > lagging, with hov

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 04:40:38 -0500, Karl Vogel wrote: > for file in $(find . -maxdepth 1 -name '*.sqlite' -print); do Just be aware that this is *not* safe in general. It will fail if any of the pathnames contain whitespace. It may work fine on your Firefox directory, but other applicati

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 04:40:38AM -0500, Karl Vogel wrote: [...] > If that fails, it's time to stop and restart FF. I usually clean the > sqlite DBs by going to my FF profile directory and running this (buried > in a larger cleanup script): A browser, like Windows or any other non-operating sy

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
hello :) Le 13/01/2025 à 16:18, Daniel Harris a écrit : 12 Gen i9 processor 16 core 24 threads 64GB ram onboard intel Alderlake GT1 gpu should be sufficient to run firefox pretty well with not many tabs running and light cpu usage and lots of free mem. sure :) btw, you need to install noscr

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Sijmen J. Mulder
Daniel Harris wrote: > I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on > earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow Feeling you! My browsing experience has also been steadily declining. I have an i5-6600 with 48 GB of RAM, which is aging, but it shou

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Karl Vogel
I run Firefox for weeks at a time with about 40 tabs open, and I noticed it slowing down as it chewed up more swap. I was able to "fix" this by using cron to disable and enable swap hourly to force everything back into memory. If that fails, it's time to stop and restart FF. I usually clean the

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Max Nikulin wrote: On 14/01/2025 04:40, Tim Woodall wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, Daniel Harris wrote: I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow and why is it not possible to h

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/01/2025 04:40, Tim Woodall wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, Daniel Harris wrote: I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately.  It is terrible.  So slow and why is it not possible to have 2 separate instances anymore. It's n

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
So are we saying that chromium is not allowing youtube to do that and that is why it is more responsive On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 11:21 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 21:34:39 +, Daniel Harris wrote: > > So the strange thing is (and this could be completely normal) that as I

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/1/25 07:21, Greg Woo ledge wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 21:34:39 +, Daniel Harris wrote: So the strange thing is (and this could be completely normal) that as I am watching the process Manager, so I have 3 youtube pages open but no videos playing, and without switching to any other t

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 21:34:39 +, Daniel Harris wrote: > So the strange thing is (and this could be completely normal) that as I am > watching the process Manager, so I have 3 youtube pages open but no videos > playing, and without switching to any other tab, only the process Manager > tab.

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
only ublock origin and one youtube page no video playing consumes 1GB ram that seems a lot On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 9:39 PM Bret Busby wrote: > On 14/1/25 05:34, Daniel Harris wrote: > > So the strange thing is (and this could be completely normal) that as I > > am watching the process Manager,

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, Daniel Harris wrote: Hello I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow and why is it not possible to have 2 separate instances anymore. It's not possible with chromium either.

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/1/25 05:34, Daniel Harris wrote: So the strange thing is (and this could be completely normal) that as I am watching the process Manager, so I have 3 youtube pages open but no videos playing, and without switching to any other tab, only the process Manager tab.  The cpu keeps spiking from

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
So the strange thing is (and this could be completely normal) that as I am watching the process Manager, so I have 3 youtube pages open but no videos playing, and without switching to any other tab, only the process Manager tab. The cpu keeps spiking from .25% to over 100% on different youtube pro

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Tue 14 Jan 2025 at 00:49:49 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > I generally work on being able to open and keep open, a Firefox > window, for each GB of RAM, which seems to work most of the time, with > one or more Windows, having multiple youtube tabs open. > > at present, on a system with 128GB RAM

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/1/25 01:35, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 at 10:03 AM From: "Bret Busby" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: What is going on with firefox On 13/1/25 22:26, Daniel Harris wrote: Hello I am a very long time happy firefox user using deb

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread pocket
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 at 1:17 PM > From: to...@tuxteam.de > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: What is going on with firefox > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 06:35:41PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > [...] > > > I don't

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 06:35:41PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: [...] > I don't have any rams, but I do have some ewes. Poking fun at people because of some typo is not only lame, but also infantile. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread pocket
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 at 10:03 AM > From: "Bret Busby" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: What is going on with firefox > > On 13/1/25 22:26, Daniel Harris wrote: > > Hello > > > > I am a very long time happy firefox us

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
Thanks Bret. I didnt know about Process Manager. Its probably over my head but its helpful to know its there when things slow down. with dxtrade it slows down usually within hours youtube is a bit more unpredictable. I tend not to ever shutdown my computer only suspend every night. I have jus

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/1/25 00:14, Daniel Harris wrote:   Now its possible something to do with ublockorigin but the two sites that show a slowdown are youtube and another piece of software called dxtrade (I think i disabled ublock on dxtrade).  Everything seems to start off fine but the longer the windows a

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 1/13/25 9:55 AM, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 13 Jan 2025 14:26 +, from mail.dhar...@googlemail.com (Daniel Harris): I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow Can you give a specific example o

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/1/25 00:33, Bret Busby wrote: On 14/1/25 00:19, Bret Busby wrote: On 13/1/25 23:55, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 13 Jan 2025 14:26 +, from mail.dhar...@googlemail.com (Daniel Harris): Come on firefox devs Probably not many of those on the debian-user mailing list; and even if t

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/1/25 00:19, Bret Busby wrote: On 13/1/25 23:55, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 13 Jan 2025 14:26 +, from mail.dhar...@googlemail.com (Daniel Harris): Come on firefox devs Probably not many of those on the debian-user mailing list; and even if there are, a post to an unrelated mail

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/1/25 23:55, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 13 Jan 2025 14:26 +, from mail.dhar...@googlemail.com (Daniel Harris): Come on firefox devs Probably not many of those on the debian-user mailing list; and even if there are, a post to an unrelated mailing list is not the way to file bug r

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
Sorry Bret now sent to the list 2 windows open that dont use the same profile: so when running in private mode I am not running as the same user logged on to the other instance(window). so I am not logged into youtube when surfing in private mode but in normal mode (eg the other window) I am signe

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 13 Jan 2025 14:26 +, from mail.dhar...@googlemail.com (Daniel Harris): > I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on > earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow Can you give a specific example of a situation when the browser is slow? Whic

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
12 Gen i9 processor 16 core 24 threads 64GB ram onboard intel Alderlake GT1 gpu should be sufficient to run firefox pretty well with not many tabs running and light cpu usage and lots of free mem. Thanks Dan On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 3:03 PM Bret Busby wrote: > On 13/1/25 22:26, Daniel Harris w

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/1/25 23:03, Bret Busby wrote: On 13/1/25 22:26, Daniel Harris wrote: Hello I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately.  It is terrible.  So slow and why is it not possible to have 2 separate instances anymore. So,

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Dan Ritter
Daniel Harris wrote: > Hello > > I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on > earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow and why is > it not possible to have 2 separate instances anymore. > > I have to say that reluctantly I have started using

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/1/25 22:26, Daniel Harris wrote: Hello I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately.  It is terrible.  So slow and why is it not possible to have 2 separate instances anymore. So, how many RAMs do you have, and, what

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 02:26:06PM +, Daniel Harris wrote: > Hello > > I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on > earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow and why is > it not possible to have 2 separate instances anymore. > > I have to