Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-06-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > I don't actually think anyone has a child for the child's sake. It's > not like growing up, being a human being, is necessarily fun, and it's > certainly not easy. It's awfully hard to read the newspaper headlines > and believe that anyone is bringing a child into the w

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-06-01 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-06-01, Steve Lamb penned: > This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) > --enig9BC6864AA68831B94623 Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Christopher Judd wrote: >> ? What do you base this on? In my experience,

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-06-01 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-05-31, s. keeling penned: > > ii) I think it's time we changed your other name. You're obviously > a lightning rod for controversy for some using your present one. > How about "Fred", or "Joe?" Bah! I like my name. It's going nowhere. -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [E

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-06-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Christopher Judd wrote: > ? What do you base this on? In my experience, it's a very > small minority who have children for purely selfish reasons. Just take a look at their actions and the reasons they give. Most reasons are quite selfish in that they have very little to do with the chi

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-06-01 Thread Christopher Judd
On 30 May, Steve Lamb wrote: > Monique Y. Mudama wrote: >> Ignoring the first sentence, I agree. > >> I'm a very selfish person right now; I don't get enough sleep, enough >> toys, and enough time with my hubby as is. I don't have the time and >> resources for a dog, so I don't have one of those,

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-31 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 03:47:53AM -0700, William Ballard wrote: > On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 03:39:45AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > richard lyons wrote: > > > a) You're missing out (imho); (b) You'd be a great mum, from what we > > > see of you here. (c) Apologies - OT and NOMB. > > > > Ungh

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-31 Thread richard lyons
On Sunday 30 May 2004 23:15, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: [...] > Maybe I'm just in a forgiving mood today, but I read the original > statement as "Having kids is a great experience; the personality > you present is grade-A; and yes, I know it's none of my business." Monique, thanks for taking time

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > Ignoring the first sentence, I agree. > I'm a very selfish person right now; I don't get enough sleep, enough > toys, and enough time with my hubby as is. I don't have the time and > resources for a dog, so I don't have one of those, either. Even though, > in marked co

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Monique Y. Mudama: > On 2004-05-31, Steve Lamb penned: > > > > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> I don't think Mr. Lyons meant anything by it, Steve. Back off a > >> bit... > > > > Hell no. Meant doesn't matter. I, for one, am sick of this > > child-centric thinking that pervades ev

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-05-31, Steve Lamb penned: > > Paul Johnson wrote: >> I don't think Mr. Lyons meant anything by it, Steve. Back off a >> bit... > > Hell no. Meant doesn't matter. I, for one, am sick of this > child-centric thinking that pervades every portion of our lives. > This is one thing

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-05-31, Steve Lamb penned: > This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) > --enig61A551D5E35ABF217C53C86B Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > richard lyons wrote: >> My remark was intended to friendly and appreciative --

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-05-30, Steve Lamb penned: > > Ungh, be a little more patronizing please. Having a child is > *NOT* something anyone should do unless they absolutely want to. > It is unlike virtually every other choice in this life; > irreversable. You simply cannot undo having a child. T

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-05-30, richard lyons penned: > a) You're missing out (imho); (b) You'd be a great mum, from what we > see of you here. (c) Apologies - OT and NOMB. > Mine to miss out on; I can filter my first response on newsgroups; thanks for recognizing that it's NOYB =) -- monique -- To UNSUBSC

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > I don't think Mr. Lyons meant anything by it, Steve. Back off a bit... Hell no. Meant doesn't matter. I, for one, am sick of this child-centric thinking that pervades every portion of our lives. This is one thing that I do NOT back down on because it is to the point o

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
richard lyons wrote: > My remark was intended to friendly and appreciative -- and came with > an apology for interfering. What your intent was doesn't matter. Do you walk up to strange women on the street, pat them on the head and tell them they'd be better off out of their business suit and

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > richard lyons wrote: >> a) You're missing out (imho); (b) You'd be a great mum, from what we >> see of you here. (c) Apologies - OT and NOMB. > > Ungh, be a little more patronizing please. Having a chil

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Ron Graves
> The only purpose in living is to reproduce and die. Really? > Be kind of a let-down to stop now. "Let-down?" I shall now cast aside Camus, as I have stumbled upon such elegant philosophy. The need for further study has washed away. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread richard lyons
On Sunday 30 May 2004 06:39, Steve Lamb wrote: > richard lyons wrote: > > a) You're missing out (imho); (b) You'd be a great mum, from > > what we see of you here. (c) Apologies - OT and NOMB. > > Ungh, be a little more patronizing please. Having a child is > *NOT* something anyone should do

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread John Hasler
William Ballard writes: > The only purpose in living is to reproduce and die. What is the purpose of reproducing? > Your DNA is over 4 billion years old. Many rocks are older. > Be kind of a let-down to stop now. Don't worry. Someone will pick up the slack. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
William Ballard wrote: > The only purpose in living is to reproduce and die. Your DNA is over 4 > billion years old. Be kind of a let-down to stop now. > We are mere carriers for this ancient stuff. Yeah. And part of extending out genetic stock is to beat and kill off the competition. Fo

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread William Ballard
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 03:39:45AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > richard lyons wrote: > > a) You're missing out (imho); (b) You'd be a great mum, from what we > > see of you here. (c) Apologies - OT and NOMB. > > Ungh, be a little more patronizing please. Having a child is *NOT* > something a

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
richard lyons wrote: > a) You're missing out (imho); (b) You'd be a great mum, from what we > see of you here. (c) Apologies - OT and NOMB. Ungh, be a little more patronizing please. Having a child is *NOT* something anyone should do unless they absolutely want to. It is unlike virtually

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 29 May 2004 23:44, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > On 2004-05-29, Kent West penned: > > Micha Feigin wrote: > >>On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 08:46:22PM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama > >> wrote: > > > > Whoa! I just realized while reading this thread that Monique's > > name has changed. Me too. > > > >

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-29 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-05-29, Kent West penned: > Micha Feigin wrote: > >>On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 08:46:22PM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: >> >> > > Whoa! I just realized while reading this thread that Monique's name > has changed. > > Congratulations, Monique. > > (And one of the few remaining geek women is