Re: (suspend && lock screen) vs (lock screen && suspend)

2022-05-12 Thread David Wright
On Thu 12 May 2022 at 17:34:55 (+0100), Ottavio Caruso wrote: > On 12/05/2022 14:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 02:06:24PM +0100, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > > > #!/bin/sh > > > systemctl suspend && mate-screensaver-command -l > > > This one seems to work, however I would have th

Re: (suspend && lock screen) vs (lock screen && suspend)

2022-05-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 02:06:24PM +0100, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > #!/bin/sh > systemctl suspend && mate-screensaver-command -l > This one seems to work, however I would have thought that the logical > sequence would be: > > mate-screensaver-command -l && systemctl suspend > > that is, a) lock

Re: Suspend on old MacBook with fresh Bullseye installation

2021-05-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
Andreas Tille [2021-05-11 20:18:55] wrote: > Hi Stefan, >> > I also used hibernate as well as the LXDE controls or closing the lid - >> > the result is always the same: >> > >> > 1. Black screen >> > 2. Network disabled (ssh session freezes, no ping from other host) >> > 3. Fan keeps on mov

Re: Suspend on old MacBook with fresh Bullseye installation

2021-05-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I also used hibernate as well as the LXDE controls or closing the lid - > the result is always the same: > > 1. Black screen > 2. Network disabled (ssh session freezes, no ping from other host) > 3. Fan keeps on moving silently > 4. Can't wake up to normal operation neither by > -

Re: Suspend on old MacBook with fresh Bullseye installation

2021-05-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Stefan, > > I also used hibernate as well as the LXDE controls or closing the lid - > > the result is always the same: > > > > 1. Black screen > > 2. Network disabled (ssh session freezes, no ping from other host) > > 3. Fan keeps on moving silently > > 4. Can't wake up to normal oper

Re: suspend when laptoplid is closed

2020-03-29 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 3/29/20 12:33 PM, err...@free.fr wrote: WHY THE DEFAULT IS SUSPEND WHEN LAPTOP LID IS CLOSED??? WHY??? systemd is for booting and managing services, not for managing power directly yes, I know I have to change a line in /etc/systemd/logind.conf but I also use mate desktop, and mate deskt

Re: suspend when laptoplid is closed

2020-03-29 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 09:33:13PM +0200, err...@free.fr wrote: > > > WHY THE DEFAULT IS SUSPEND WHEN LAPTOP LID IS CLOSED??? WHY??? ...but you don't have to shout at 3500 innocent Debian users for that. You might get some help to fix your problem, though. Being nice to people might be a good s

Re: Suspend - which packages are at least needed?

2018-11-13 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 09:39:19AM +0100, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > in earlier times suspend-to-disk worked fine, but now after the years things > changed. Suspend-to-disk is no more working. This might be by changes in the > kernel and in the packages. More like 'in the packages

Re: Suspend - which packages are at least needed?

2018-11-13 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 13.11.2018 13:39, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > in earlier times suspend-to-disk worked fine, but now after the years things > changed. Suspend-to-disk is no more working. This might be by changes in the > kernel and in the packages. > > So I want to do a fresh configuration for susspending. >

Re: suspend/resume device

2017-05-05 Thread Charles Kroeger
> That "apt-listchanges" package comes in handy thanks for that tip, I have it installed now. -- CK pgp0IIh2byNkp.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: suspend/resume device [SOLVED]

2017-05-05 Thread Charles Kroeger
thank you Cindy-Sue, I did have both of those files but the one with RESUME in it and it did list a mysterious UUID device number (I don't know where it got that as this is a desktop but it does get a lot of dist-upgrades I'll admit) so that's the one I removed and added 'none' in its place. the

Re: suspend/resume device

2017-05-05 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 5/5/17, Charles Kroeger wrote: > on a normal boot I get a long wait (30 seconds +-) whilst the cursor winks > then > the message: waiting on suspend/resume device, before resuming the steps to > boot to a login prompt. Your words, "boot", "wait", and "30 seconds" there triggered this response

Re: suspend and hibernate on acer s7

2015-10-21 Thread lupa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello I also try to use Reportbug but I'm not sure what package/category should I must use. thanks in advance ! El 19/10/15 a las 23:31, lupa escribió: > > Hello all, > > I installed Debian since 10 years not using it. And I'm surprised: > almost

Re: Suspend-sedation Problem

2015-09-02 Thread David Wright
Quoting Eirik Schwenke (ei...@schwenke.info): > Then there was a different change, to do numerical comparison against date > +%%s. I think the new code contains two errors: a) it should be: > > NOW="$(date +%s)"; > > At least my date complains that % isn't a valid number if "+%%s" is used. > P

Re: Suspend-sedation Problem

2015-09-01 Thread Eirik Schwenke
Hi, I see there's been some recent changes to the https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdSuspendSedation article. First a change to move from a (my) dumb string check against "/usr/sbin/rtcwake --mode show" output to avoid issues with l10n (while there doesn't appear to be translations for Norwegian,

Re: Suspend-sedation Problem

2015-08-29 Thread kytv
John Hasler wrote: > I'm trying to get suspend-sedation working on my Gateway 450SX4 with > Jessie installed. Suspend and Hibernate work. I'm following the > instructions at > > https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdSuspendSedation > > When I close the lid the machine suspends properly and wakes up a

Re: Suspend-sedation Problem

2015-08-29 Thread kytv

Re: suspend / hibernate

2015-08-11 Thread Mail
I have obsession installed on my Debian 8.1 Fluxbox system and it works great. Check the package server repository with contrib and non-free added to the /etc/sources.list file (su nano) and update w/ apt-get update. Then download/install the obsession package. It will list two executables in

Re: Suspend-sedation Problem

2015-07-31 Thread John Hasler
Gave up and kludged together a workaround. rtcwake will not return "alarm: off" when run from a systemd service though it will when run from a login shell. The "File exists" message is evidently a red herring. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Suspend-sedation Problem

2015-07-30 Thread John Hasler
I wasn't reloading the script properly. Still doesn't work, but now I see that the "if" is dropping through because rtcwake always returns "alarm: on" even though it must have expired because the script is running. I still get the incomprehensible "file exists" message. -- John Hasler jhas...@n

Re: Suspend-sedation Problem

2015-07-30 Thread John Hasler
Additional information: "systemctl suspend" produces exactly the same result as closing the lid except of course that the machine does not go back into suspension after the script runs. "systemctl hibernate" produces exactly the same result as "systemctl suspend" except that the machines goes into

[solved] Re: suspend/resume problems jessie/Xfce

2014-12-08 Thread Mike Kupfer
Mike Kupfer wrote: > 1. When resuming from suspend, the display fails to go out of sleep mode > until I press Ctrl-Alt-Fn to go to a different virtual terminal. But > then when I return the vt7, the display flickers and there are > horizontal lines running through it. I don't see this problem wh

Re: Suspend button greyed out on Xfce on Sid

2014-07-19 Thread Bzzzz
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:43:27 -0400 John Bleichert wrote: > Does this problem persist after a reboot or after restarting > lightdm? There was a network-mgr update yesterday that restored it; although, hibernate have a strange behavior: it fully works once but reboot the laptop on the second power

Re: Suspend button greyed out on Xfce on Sid

2014-07-19 Thread John Bleichert
On 07/17/2014 03:56 PM, B wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 14:52:37 -0500 Nate Bargmann wrote: logout dialog not having options for suspend and hibernate in it The same here (sid, msi laptop). Does this problem persist after a reboot or after restarting lightdm? I see this once in a while

Re: Suspend button greyed out on Xfce on Sid

2014-07-17 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 17 Jul 18:58 -0500, José Silva wrote: > I noticed the same but another upgrade today cured the problem. Before doing an upgrade a few minutes ago, the notification popped up the following message after the laptop came out of suspend and I looged back into the desktop from XScreensaver:

Re: Suspend button greyed out on Xfce on Sid

2014-07-17 Thread José Silva
On 17/07/14 20:52, Nate Bargmann wrote: I did another "upgrade" a couple of days ago and now Xfce has no idea that power management exists. This is manifested by the logout dialog not having options for suspend and hibernate in it any more and the custom session buttons on my taskbar which have

Re: Suspend button greyed out on Xfce on Sid

2014-07-17 Thread Jochen Spieker
Nate Bargmann: > > I did another "upgrade" a couple of days ago and now Xfce has no idea > that power management exists. This is manifested by the logout dialog > not having options for suspend and hibernate in it any more and the > custom session buttons on my taskbar which have Logout, Lock, Sus

Re: Suspend button greyed out on Xfce on Sid

2014-07-17 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 14:52:37 -0500 Nate Bargmann wrote: > logout dialog not having options for suspend and hibernate in it The same here (sid, msi laptop). -- Wink : 2s, I'll be back in 10 minutes Mysterius : captain Kirk, a temporal singularity starboard! signature.asc Description: PGP sign

Re: Re: Suspend leads to black screen without sleep [Dell Latitude E6440]

2014-03-26 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 3/19/14, Carl Fink wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 07:57:56AM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: >> I have a similar problem. > > Just started happening on my homebuilt system, as well. Should we file a > bug report? Against which package? I would think first off against the kernel (3.12-rt and 3.13-

Re: Re: Suspend leads to black screen without sleep [Dell Latitude E6440]

2014-03-19 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 07:57:56AM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: > I have a similar problem. Just started happening on my homebuilt system, as well. Should we file a bug report? Against which package? -- Carl Fink ca...@li-con.org Chair, LI-CON, March 29-30, 2014, Rockville

Re: Re: Suspend leads to black screen without sleep [Dell Latitude E6440]

2014-03-19 Thread Marcelo Laia
I have a similar problem. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/03/msg00808.html Any help? -- Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140319

Re: Suspend leads to black screen without sleep [Dell Latitude E6440]

2014-03-19 Thread Ghislain Vaillant
I have updated the bug report on launchpad regarding this issue. My DELL E6440 now successfully suspend and resume without a glitch on both Ubuntu LTS and Debian Jessie/Sid. Since the original report, Dell submitted a BIOS update (version A05) which coincides with the moment when suspend started w

Re: Suspend leads to black screen without sleep [Dell Latitude E6440]

2014-03-19 Thread Winfried Boxleitner
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014, Ghislain Vaillant wrote: Another issue with my Dell Latitude E6440 with AMD hybrid graphics is suspend not working. Suspend leads to a black screen, the system does not go to sleep and seems to be still running (power LED and fan are still on). I already tried different ker

Re: Suspend leads to black screen without sleep [Dell Latitude E6440]

2014-03-18 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 31.01.2014 18:29, schrieb Steven Rosenberg: > I had success with suspend by adding resume=/path/to/swap to my GRUB bootline. > > To find your /path/to/swap, use: > > $ swapon -s > > And use that to create your own /resume=/dev/sda2 type of line > (remember, yours will vary depending on your i

Re: Suspend leads to black screen without sleep [Dell Latitude E6440]

2014-03-18 Thread Michal Kvasnicka
Ghislain Vaillant gmail.com> writes: > > > > > > Another issue with my Dell Latitude E6440 with AMD hybrid graphics is suspend not working. Suspend leads to a black screen, the system does not go to sleep and seems to be still running (power LED and fan are still on). > I already t

Re: Re: Suspend leads to black screen without sleep [Dell Latitude E6440]

2014-02-25 Thread Ghislain Vaillant
Thanks guys for your suggestions. I have tried kernel 3.12 and then the recently released 3.13 in sid without any luck. The thing is that, from time to time, suspend works (maybe 1 out of 15 attempts) for whatever reasons.

Re: Suspend leads to black screen without sleep [Dell Latitude E6440]

2014-01-31 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 2/1/14, Steven Rosenberg wrote: > I had success with suspend by adding resume=/path/to/swap to my GRUB > bootline. > > To find your /path/to/swap, use: > > $ swapon -s Suspend has usually worked for me, without any swap partition. However, the kernel has been where the significant differences

Re: Suspend leads to black screen without sleep [Dell Latitude E6440]

2014-01-31 Thread Steven Rosenberg
I had success with suspend by adding resume=/path/to/swap to my GRUB bootline. To find your /path/to/swap, use: $ swapon -s And use that to create your own /resume=/dev/sda2 type of line (remember, yours will vary depending on your installation. Adding it to GRUB is another matter, but if you p

Re: Suspend then hibernate when idle

2013-07-05 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 16:36:04 +0300 Vlad Badelita wrote: > Well, I figured it would mean waking up from sleep, then start hibernation. > This is what I found: > http://superuser.com/questions/298672/linuxhow-to-hibernate-after-a-period-of-sleep Ah, I hadn't known about rtcwake. I don't know of a t

Re: Suspend then hibernate when idle

2013-07-05 Thread Vlad Badelita
Well, I figured it would mean waking up from sleep, then start hibernation. This is what I found: http://superuser.com/questions/298672/linuxhow-to-hibernate-after-a-period-of-sleep On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 15:06:15 +0300 > Vlad Badelita wrote: > > >

Re: Suspend then hibernate when idle

2013-07-05 Thread Vlad Badelita
Thanks for the suggestion, but it is not exactly what I am looking for. It is supposed to hibernate in order to save battery life and/or energy. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 03:06:15PM +0300, Vlad Badelita wrote: > >I prefer to have my compute

Re: Suspend then hibernate when idle

2013-07-05 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 15:06:15 +0300 Vlad Badelita wrote: > I prefer to have my computer suspend after some specified time of no > activity, say 20 minutes, and then after about 2 more hours or so hibernate > to save power. Also, when specific applications are running(like torrent Not sure this is

Re: Suspend then hibernate when idle

2013-07-05 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 03:06:15PM +0300, Vlad Badelita wrote: >I prefer to have my computer suspend after some specified time of no >activity, say 20 minutes, and then after about 2 more hours or so >hibernate to save power. Also, when specific applications are running(like >torren

Re: [Solved] Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 25 iul 12, 14:26:51, Camaleón wrote: > > Mmm... it can be a problem with a specific version of the driver or > something related to Xorg server. You can try to report it but nvidia is > closed source code, I don't know if a bug report in Debian BTS will be > tracked :-? It will, but the

Re: [Solved] Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-25 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:29:11 +0200, Alberto Luaces wrote: >> If nvidia driver is the one making noise here, you can try to it avoid >> going to sleep and see if that can make the trick to resume flawlessly. >> >> "man pm-suspend" for more info and more specifically the >> "SUSPEND_MODULES" variabl

Re: [Solved] Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-25 Thread Gaël DONVAL
> > If nvidia driver is the one making noise here, you can try to it avoid > > going to sleep and see if that can make the trick to resume flawlessly. > > > > "man pm-suspend" for more info and more specifically the > > "SUSPEND_MODULES" variable. > > It seems it doesn't work: > > Unloading ke

Re: [Solved] Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-24 Thread Alberto Luaces
Seems it could be addressed in the 304.22-1 version from experimental: - Fixed a bug that could cause G8x, G9x, and GT2xx GPUs to display a black screen or corruption after waking up from suspend. (Closes: #679577) It's working fine so far. -- Alberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-

Re: [Solved] Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-24 Thread Alberto Luaces
Camaleón writes: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:34:35 +0200, Gaël DONVAL wrote: > >> Le vendredi 20 juillet 2012 à 17:45 +0200, Gaël DONVAL a écrit : >>> > > 3) DE >>> > > Typical Gnome 3.4 install. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > I'm having the same problem with nvidia drivers, but KDE4. >>> >>> I guess Nvidia

Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-23 Thread Gaël DONVAL
> > I have similar experience, except that it do not fails always. My first > > inspection - it can be USB key related, without plugged them, all works as > > expected, but i am not sure yet. > > > I have the same behaviour since kernel 3.5-rc7, which I use, because of > ivy-bridge-graphics i3000

Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-21 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:17:49 +0200 chymian napísal: > which kernel are you guys using? i am using the wheeze's kernel from official mirror: uname -a Linux bonifac.skk 3.2.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Jun 28 09:07:26 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux dpkg -l linux-image* | grep ^ii ii linux-image-2.6-am

Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-21 Thread chymian
hi, Am 19.07.2012 21:31, schrieb Slavko: > I have similar experience, except that it do not fails always. My first > inspection - it can be USB key related, without plugged them, all works as > expected, but i am not sure yet. > I have the same behaviour since kernel 3.5-rc7, which I use, becaus

Re: [Solved] Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-20 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:34:35 +0200, Gaël DONVAL wrote: > Le vendredi 20 juillet 2012 à 17:45 +0200, Gaël DONVAL a écrit : >> > > 3) DE >> > > Typical Gnome 3.4 install. >> > > >> > > >> > I'm having the same problem with nvidia drivers, but KDE4. >> >> I guess Nvidia is once again the one to blam

Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-20 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:45:15 +0200 Gaël DONVAL napísal: > > I'm having the same problem with nvidia drivers, but KDE4. > > I guess Nvidia is once again the one to blame … As i wrote early, i has similar problem some days ago. I have the nvidia too, with driver from testing repos. But afte

[Solved] Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-20 Thread Gaël DONVAL
Switched to Nouveau. There are visual glitches and the fan is always on (slowest RPM though) but I can stop and recover my desktop at will. Cheers Le vendredi 20 juillet 2012 à 17:45 +0200, Gaël DONVAL a écrit : > > > 3) DE > > > Typical Gnome 3.4 install. > > > > > > > I'm having the same probl

Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-20 Thread Gaël DONVAL
> > 3) DE > > Typical Gnome 3.4 install. > > > > I'm having the same problem with nvidia drivers, but KDE4. I guess Nvidia is once again the one to blame … That began to happen right after I upgraded to nvidia-glx 302.17-3, the 12th of July and that wouldn't be the 1st time. Does anyone know if

Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-20 Thread Alberto Luaces
Gaël DONVAL writes: > Le jeudi 19 juillet 2012 à 17:21 +, Camaleón a écrit : > [...] > 3) DE > Typical Gnome 3.4 install. > I'm having the same problem with nvidia drivers, but KDE4. -- Alberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-20 Thread Gaël DONVAL
Le jeudi 19 juillet 2012 à 17:21 +, Camaleón a écrit : > Hi, but better if you don't hijack threads, Sorry about that. > > I can't suspend to RAM anymore in my (up to date) Debian Wheezy (64 > > bits). > > > > Everything was fine until last week: each time I recover from the > > suspending s

Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-19 Thread Slavko
I have similar experience, except that it do not fails always. My first inspection - it can be USB key related, without plugged them, all works as expected, but i am not sure yet. Regards Gaël DONVAL napísal/a: >Hi everyone, > >I can't suspend to RAM anymore in my (up to date) Debian Wheezy (6

Re: Suspend to RAM fails in Debian Wheezy 64 bits

2012-07-19 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:31:44 +0200, Gaël DONVAL wrote: > Hi everyone, Hi, but better if you don't hijack threads, even more when they are wrongly addressed unsubscribe requests ;-) I'm opening a new thread. > I can't suspend to RAM anymore in my (up to date) Debian Wheezy (64 > bits). > > Ev

Re: suspend / power off

2012-01-16 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 08:53:53AM +, richard wrote: > You didn't quite understand what I was asking :( > If you suspend to RAM, S3, which I hope unmounts the hard drives. > as suspend is set to power off the computer, does it really matter is running > daemons and services are terminated by re

Re: suspend / power off

2012-01-16 Thread richard
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:26:10 +0200 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Du, 15 ian 12, 18:23:22, richard wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > It may seem a daft question, BUT, what is the exact process when > > suspending ? > > > > On a laptop it doesn't matter as power is kept on when either the lid is > > shu

Re: suspend / power off

2012-01-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 15 ian 12, 18:23:22, richard wrote: > Greetings, > > It may seem a daft question, BUT, what is the exact process when suspending ? > > On a laptop it doesn't matter as power is kept on when either the lid is shut > or suspended, the same action. > However, on a mains powered machine suspen

Re: suspend resume debugging

2011-10-23 Thread Max Tsepkov
It is Dell XPS M1530 laptop, with nvidia 8600M GT. I use vesa driver, because latest (testing) proprietary drivers causes horrible slowdown of gnome. Brightness doesn't have effect, to make it clear, the screen is not blank (you can see that it's powered on, but just black), it doesn't receive powe

Re: suspend resume debugging

2011-10-22 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:28:07PM BST, Max Tsepkov wrote: > Laptop display is not powered on after resume. > All other systems is fine, I managed to blindly reboot the machine. > Kernel log doesn't show anything obvious. > I was wondering, how to debug such cases? Where to begin? 1. What's the gr

Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

2011-02-27 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Jeffrin, Thanks for the advice. > I think some module which help in the suspend/resume > process has failed to complete initialization. > EDAC(Error Correction And Detection) module might > have found error in a device or may be the module > needs a patch. > > You can do dmesg | grep edac and

Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

2011-02-27 Thread Richard Lawrence
Camaleón writes: > Well, no kernel oops is "good" but if you can reproduce this kernel bug > every time you trigger the hibernation from GNOME when resuming the > system, at least you can open a bug for this in Debian BTS. You are > clearly having some sort of problem with the kernel. Right o

Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

2011-02-26 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:56:26 -0800, Richard Lawrence wrote: > Thanks, Camaleón, for these suggestions. > >> Make a quick and easy test: create a new user and try to >> hibernate/resume from there and see how it goes. > > Ok, here's where I'm at: > > 1) A new user (pmtest) can indeed hibernate a

Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

2011-02-25 Thread Jeffrin Jose
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:56:10PM -0800, Richard Lawrence wrote: > But I'm uncertain where to look for more information (I can't find > anything more informative anywhere in /var/log), or how to go about > determining whether this is a configuration issue I can fix or a bug > that I should file. >

Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

2011-02-25 Thread Richard Lawrence
Thanks, Camaleón, for these suggestions. > Make a quick and easy test: create a new user and try to hibernate/resume > from there and see how it goes. Ok, here's where I'm at: 1) A new user (pmtest) can indeed hibernate and resume from the console without issue 2) My regular user account (rwl)

Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

2011-02-25 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:56:10 -0800, Richard Lawrence wrote: > I upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze this past weekend. Since then, I > haven't been able to successfully resume after a suspend to disk, which > had been working fine in Lenny (with Linux 2.6.26). Basically, on boot, > I see a blinking c

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:37:36PM +0200, lee wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 07:31:51PM +0200, Klistvud wrote: > > Dne, 28. 06. 2010 18:30:42 je lee napisal(a): > > > > > >Yes, but I don't want to suspend to RAM because the point is to save > > >power, and suspend to RAM will fail when the power

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 06:02:47PM +0200, lee wrote: > > If developers are not aware of your situation, they cannot correct the > > bugs > > Still filing bug reports doesn't seem to achieve anything these days. Do you mean that, because of this … http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?subm

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 06:14:07PM +0200, lee wrote: > It's ppl using computers and running software on them; computers don't > run all by themselves, … Umm, no. Someone logging in, is a major annoyance to its real work. :-) -- Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debia

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 18:02:47 +0200 lee wrote: > On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 04:00:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: ... > > If developers are not aware of your situation, they cannot correct the > > bugs > > Still filing bug reports doesn't seem to achieve anything these days. Overbroad generalization.

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 20:33:34 +0200, lee wrote: > On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 04:42:46PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> You cannot disconnect the main disk because hibernation saves the image >> of the running system there (unless you manually change the location). > > Sure I can disconnect the disks. But

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Memnon Anon
Lisi writes: [...] > I do not know about Germany, but here the shop/firm would be likely to > say that installing Linux counts as misuse, or at any rate is not > covered, and would in all probability have no difficulty persuading > both Trading Standards Officers and the courts to agree with them.

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 19:44:18 +0200, lee wrote: > On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 05:06:02PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> No, I think you still ignore what is this all about. I'll try to make >> it short and easy: > > Your objections are completely irrelevant. Those are not "my" objections but how things w

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread lee
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 04:42:46PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:02:47 +0200, lee wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 04:00:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> Then you can setup a chrooted environment and make the tests in there. > >> Or you can try with a LiveCD to avoid data

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread lee
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 05:06:02PM +, Camaleón wrote: > No, I think you still ignore what is this all about. I'll try to make it > short and easy: Your objections are completely irrelevant. I was saying that suspend to disk is something that should work out of the box. The Debian installer is

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:14:07 +0200, lee wrote: > On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 08:42:02PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 11:40:32 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: >> >> > Excuse me but are you *really* saying that anyone "there" would buy a >> > car that only certain people can operate with

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:02:47 +0200, lee wrote: > On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 04:00:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> Then you can setup a chrooted environment and make the tests in there. >> Or you can try with a LiveCD to avoid data loss. Nowadays you have many >> choices to test hibernation in a safe

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 04 July 2010 17:14:07 lee wrote: > It's ppl using computers and running software on them; computers don't > run all by themselves, just like cars. Same is with refrigerators: You > don't get a certificate telling you exactly which goods you may put > into your fridge. But you expect your

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread lee
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 08:42:02PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 11:40:32 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 04:00:57PM +, Camale�n wrote: > >> On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:11:03 +0200, lee wrote: > > > > .snip. > > > >> > And who

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread lee
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 04:00:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:11:03 +0200, lee wrote: > > Insofar such testing involves eventually losing data, doing such testing > > isn't really an option. > > Then you can setup a chrooted environment and make the tests in there. Or > you c

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 11:40:32 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 04:00:57PM +, Camale�n wrote: >> On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:11:03 +0200, lee wrote: > > .snip. > >> > And who would buy a car that comes with a certificate that only the >> > ppl name

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-03 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 04:00:57PM +, Camale�n wrote: > On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:11:03 +0200, lee wrote: .snip. > > And who would buy a car that comes with a > > certificate that only the ppl named in the certificate are allowed to > > use it and that otherwise the c

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:11:03 +0200, lee wrote: > On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 07:10:58PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> >> So... when something goes wrong, you need to debug it, whatever it is >> (hibernation or something else). And debugging usually requires some >> "sacrifices" >:-) (meaning, trial and e

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-03 Thread lee
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 07:10:58PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > So... when something goes wrong, you need to debug it, whatever it is > (hibernation or something else). And debugging usually requires some > "sacrifices" >:-) (meaning, trial and error tests). Insofar such testing involves eventual

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-01 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 19:29:00 +0200, lee wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:44:58PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> And how do you interpret that? Do you see any line about the freeze and >> hibernation? As per your own subject on this thread, I'd say "yes". > > My interpretation is that it doesn't wo

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-01 Thread lee
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:44:58PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:45:30 +0200, lee wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 05:21:08PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> Then you should read about how to debugg "swsusp" when restoration > >> fails :-) > > > > The resuming didn't fail, bu

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:45:30 +0200, lee wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 05:21:08PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> Then you should read about how to debugg "swsusp" when restoration >> fails :-) > > The resuming didn't fail, but shortly after, the computer froze. And how do you interpret that? Do y

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread lee
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 08:44:06PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Lu, 28 iun 10, 18:30:42, lee wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:16:07AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > > I do not exactly know your problem but suspend and hibernate are not > > > always > > > exclusive things. Some configu

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread lee
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 05:21:08PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:22:48 +0200, lee wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 04:05:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> Where did you get that steps to hibernate? :-? > > > > It's in the kernel dokumentation, see Documentation/power/swsus

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread lee
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 07:31:51PM +0200, Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 28. 06. 2010 18:30:42 je lee napisal(a): > > > >Yes, but I don't want to suspend to RAM because the point is to save > >power, and suspend to RAM will fail when the power fails. > > In that case, pm-suspend-hybrid should give you the

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 28 iun 10, 18:30:42, lee wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:16:07AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > I do not exactly know your problem but suspend and hibernate are not always > > exclusive things. Some configuration puts system into suspend to memory > > while > > having the same data sto

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 28. 06. 2010 18:30:42 je lee napisal(a): Yes, but I don't want to suspend to RAM because the point is to save power, and suspend to RAM will fail when the power fails. In that case, pm-suspend-hybrid should give you the best of both worlds. Anyway, suspend to RAM *does* save some power

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:22:48 +0200, lee wrote: > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 04:05:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> Where did you get that steps to hibernate? :-? > > It's in the kernel dokumentation, see Documentation/power/swsusp.txt. Then you should read about how to debugg "swsusp" when restorati

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread lee
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:16:07AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > I do not exactly know your problem but suspend and hibernate are not always > exclusive things. Some configuration puts system into suspend to memory while > having the same data stored into harddisk too. So you win in both bo

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread lee
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 09:24:28AM -0700, Mark wrote: > > I would never use Suspend on a desktop due to lack of battery/UPS present. > As for Hibernate, it takes as long to do a fresh boot as a resume from > Hibernate on my desktops so really there's not much point there. The point is saving powe

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread lee
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 04:05:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:28:45 +0200, lee wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 01:43:49PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> And how do you suspend to disk? By pressing a button, running a > >> script...? You said in your first writing that "(s

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