Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-06 Thread David Wright
On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 23:08:41 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/2/23, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > On 12/2/23, Tom Furie wrote: > >> 'apt depends ' would list the direct dependencies without > >> recursion. > > $ apt depends wget 2>&1 | grep " Depends: " | awk '{ print $2}' > > that did

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-06 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/2/23, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/2/23, Tom Furie wrote: >> 'apt depends ' would list the direct dependencies without >> recursion. > $ apt depends wget 2>&1 | grep " Depends: " | awk '{ print $2}' that didn't work, dpkg would still demand dependencies, so I decided to change the str

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 10:28:14PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 02 Dec 2023 at 13:48:34 (+), Darac Marjal wrote: > > On 02/12/2023 04:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > apt-get has the side effect of installing the packages on the > > connected system. > > Not with the -d option. I think Greg

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-02 Thread David Wright
On Sat 02 Dec 2023 at 13:48:34 (+), Darac Marjal wrote: > On 02/12/2023 04:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 10:01:54PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 21:55:42 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > apt install ./myfile.deb > > > That requires you

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-02 Thread David Wright
On Sat 02 Dec 2023 at 07:06:37 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 02:52:25AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > direct dependencies of packages which haven't been downloaded, > > install. I need to download those packages. > > These should be a straightforward way to do th

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 06:15:17AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > They are even using "AI" to mess with > people they target and it doesn't matter if they know well (which they > have actually told me) that you are not a criminally minded dude, a > threat to society, ... and they are quite litera

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-02 Thread Darac Marjal
On 02/12/2023 04:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 10:01:54PM -0600, David Wright wrote: On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 21:55:42 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: apt install ./myfile.deb That requires you to be online, aka "exposed mode". The OP only exposes a live USB to the outside

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-01 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/2/23, Tom Furie wrote: > 'apt depends ' would list the direct dependencies without > recursion. Thank you, I think I got what I needed (at least for now). $ apt depends wget wget Depends: libc6 (>= 2.28) Depends: libgnutls30 (>= 3.7.0) Depends: libidn2-0 (>= 0.6) Depends: libnettl

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-01 Thread tomas
On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 02:52:25AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > direct dependencies of packages which haven't been downloaded, > install. I need to download those packages. > These should be a straightforward way to do that or an easy hack. > lbrtchx I /think/ this hack might involve iterat

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 10:01:54PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 21:55:42 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > apt install ./myfile.deb > > That requires you to be online, aka "exposed mode". The OP only > exposes a live USB to the outside world, not their "real" system. > >

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 21:55:42 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 02:52:25AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > direct dependencies of packages which haven't been downloaded, > > install. I need to download those packages. > > These should be a straightforward way to do that

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-01 Thread Tom Furie
Albretch Mueller writes: > How can you list just the direct dependencies? and how safe is it > downloading and installing only those via dpkg? 'apt depends ' would list the direct dependencies without recursion. Why do you want to download them individually and install directly with dpkg when

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 02:52:25AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > direct dependencies of packages which haven't been downloaded, > install. I need to download those packages. > These should be a straightforward way to do that or an easy hack. I'm still struggling to figure out what the X is in

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-01 Thread Albretch Mueller
direct dependencies of packages which haven't been downloaded, install. I need to download those packages. These should be a straightforward way to do that or an easy hack. lbrtchx

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-01 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/2/23, Tom Furie wrote: ... > This is a recursive search, also showing dependencies of dependencies, > etc. How can you list just the direct dependencies? and how safe is it downloading and installing only those via dpkg? lbrtchx

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-01 Thread Tom Furie
Albretch Mueller writes: > https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/wget > > shows 8 packages as "depends" > > dep: libc6 (>= 2.28) > dep: libgnutls30 (>= 3.7.0) > dep: libidn2-0 (>= 0.6) > dep: libnettle8 > dep: libpcre2-8-0 (>= 10.22) > dep: libpsl5 (>= 0.16.0) > dep: libuuid1 (>= 2.16) > dep: zlib

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-16 Thread Cousin Stanley
On 3/15/22 19:20, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: apt-cache stats Thought it might prove of interest for others, too, with respect to seeing real numbers about the amazing volume of packages all interacting together under Debian's hood. Thanks I was not aware of this apt-cache option an

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 3/15/22, Dan Ritter wrote: > Cousin Stanley wrote: >> Cousin Stanley wrote : >> > The data is already on your system, so >> > there's no transmission happening. >> >> I do not understand this. > ... > >> Does the Debian package manager >> really download package information >> for al

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Cousin Stanley wrote: > Cousin Stanley wrote : > > The data is already on your system, so > > there's no transmission happening. > > I do not understand this. ... > Does the Debian package manager > really download package information > for all ~59,000 avaiilabel packages > in an

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Curt
On 2022-03-15, Cousin Stanley wrote: > >> Whether or not you want to see it >> is a different issue. > > I understand this. > >> The data is already on your system, so >> there's no transmission happening. > > I do not understand this. > > I was under the impression that > package info

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Tue, Mar 15 2022 at 08:28:41 AM, Cousin Stanley wrote: > > > > I was under the impression that > package information returned by > > apt-cache show some-package > > for packages that I have not installed > would not be downloaded onto my system > until I actually requested

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 08:28:41AM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: > I was under the impression that > package information returned by > > apt-cache show some-package > > for packages that I have not installed > would not be downloaded onto my system > until I actually requested

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Cousin Stanley
Cousin Stanley wrote : >> What I don't understand is the necessity >> to transmit a string of 3933 bytes >> for 87 golang packages for example >> when a link to the same would suffice >> for those that actually require it. Dan Ritter wrote : > The package manager needs it. I understand this.

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 06:36:52AM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > No, it seems you haven't understood. > > > > I assure you that I do understand the need > for access to the Built-Using list. > > What I don't understand is the necessity > to transmit

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Cousin Stanley wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > No, it seems you haven't understood. > > > > I assure you that I do understand the need > for access to the Built-Using list. > > What I don't understand is the necessity > to transmit a string of 3933 bytes > for 87 golang

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Cousin Stanley
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > No, it seems you haven't understood. > I assure you that I do understand the need for access to the Built-Using list. What I don't understand is the necessity to transmit a string of 3933 bytes for 87 golang packages for example when a link to the sa

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 05:23:02PM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > Not having Built-Using is just like not having dependencies. > > Thanks for the explanation. > > I can understand the need for the Built-Using list > for the developers that need it. No, it

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread songbird
Cousin Stanley wrote: > Reading this newsgroup earlier today > someone mentioned the hugo package > for static site generation. > > I was curious about the package > so I tried > > $ apt-cache show hugo ... i have been building hugo on my Debian system for quite a while

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 05:37:30PM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > How about: > > > > $ apt-cache show hugo | grep -v '^Built-Using:' > > > > which you could wrap into a function. > > > > I don't mind the Built-Using list at all > for reasonable sized lists and I

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread Cousin Stanley
David Wright wrote: > How about: > > $ apt-cache show hugo | grep -v '^Built-Using:' > > which you could wrap into a function. > I don't mind the Built-Using list at all for reasonable sized lists and I wouldn't care to remove it altogether. I can use your suggestion to remove it

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread Cousin Stanley
Dan Ritter wrote: > > Not having Built-Using is just like not having dependencies. Thanks for the explanation. I can understand the need for the Built-Using list for the developers that need it. In cases such as that for the l o n g list returned for golang built packages like

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Mar 2022 at 16:33:42 (-0700), Cousin Stanley wrote: > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > So this information is needed for the developers and packagers, > > but I suppose you could argue that it is information overload > > for the casual user of "apt show". > > It seems to be information

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread Cousin Stanley
Andy Smith wrote: > > So this information is needed for the developers and packagers, > but I suppose you could argue that it is information overload > for the casual user of "apt show". It seems to be information overload for me pesonally. Perhaps a link to the relevant golang list

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread Dan Ritter
Cousin Stanley wrote: > Reading this newsgroup earlier today > someone mentioned the hugo package > for static site generation. > > I was curious about the package > so I tried > > $ apt-cache show hugo > > The usual package information was returned > along with, in my

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 12:53:21PM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: > $ apt-cache show hugo > > The usual package information was returned > along with, in my opinion, an unsightly mess > entailing a long string of 88 entries > naming individual golang packages > following Buil

Re: packages kept back on Debian stable

2022-02-24 Thread Geoff
L Dimov wrote: As you and I both install the generic kernel linux-image-amd64, we would expect to have to use  apt-get dist-upgrade  whenever there's a new kernel version (because a version number is included in the package name, so it's a "new" package). apt upgrade will install new packages

Re: packages kept back on Debian stable

2022-02-24 Thread David Wright
On Thu 24 Feb 2022 at 18:32:47 (+), L Dimov wrote: > On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 01:12:48 PM EST, David Wright > wrote: > > On Thu 24 Feb 2022 at 17:50:28 (+), L Dimov wrote: > > > On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 12:39:27 PM EST, Greg Wooledge > > > wrote:  > > > >  On Thu, Feb

Re: packages kept back on Debian stable

2022-02-24 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-02-24 19:32 UTC+0100, L Dimov wrote: > The following NEW packages will be installed: >   libabsl20200923 libopengl0 linux-image-5.10.0-11-amd64 These are legitimate Debian packages which are also installed on my Bullseye system. Apparently, some dependencies have changed. -- http://www.

Re: packages kept back on Debian stable

2022-02-24 Thread David Wright
On Thu 24 Feb 2022 at 17:50:28 (+), L Dimov wrote: > On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 12:39:27 PM EST, Greg Wooledge > wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 05:32:45PM +, L Dimov wrote: > > > Is it normal that for a while now, maybe 2 or so weeks, these 17 packages > > > are continuing to

Re: packages kept back on Debian stable

2022-02-24 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-02-24 18:50 UTC+0100, L Dimov wrote: > I do indeed use apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, and I am aware that > there are ways I can force them to upgrade, but should I? At least it will help you to analyze the situation, you still can cancel the operation. IMO this is not a normal si

Re: packages kept back on Debian stable

2022-02-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 05:32:45PM +, L Dimov wrote: > Is it normal that for a while now, maybe 2 or so weeks, these 17 packages are > continuing to be kept back? I am on Debian 11 Bullseye stable with only main > repositories. > > The following packages have been kept back: >   gir1.2-javas

Re: Packages with upgradable origin but kept back: Debian testing: guile-2.2-libs

2021-05-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 17 May 2021 09:36:03 -0500 David Wright wrote: > So I'd look for any non-bullseye holdover packages, and > particlarly any that depend directly or indirectly on > libgc1c2, probably via guile 2.2. Interesting, thank you. I ran apt-cache rdepends guile-2.2-libs /bullseye on orca (fresh

Re: Packages with upgradable origin but kept back: Debian testing: guile-2.2-libs

2021-05-17 Thread David Wright
On Mon 17 May 2021 at 07:16:21 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > I upgraded a laptop from Buster to Bullseye recently. I had unattended > upgrades running, and have kept it running since. I have gotten the > following in the unattended upgrades report since: > > Packages with upgradable origin but

Re: Packages for debian-8.8.0-amd64-netinst.jigdo are missing on fallback mirrors

2018-02-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 01:38:47PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: >Hi, > >a thread on debian-user reveils problems with package mirrors for 8.8.0 >jigdo images. It begins at > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/02/msg00531.html > >I wrote on debian-user: >> > "File not found" messages from th

Re: Packages web page, was Re: Aptitude package manager "package"

2018-01-24 Thread David Wright
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 at 16:38:24 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2018-01-24, wrote: > > > >> > [1] https://packages.debian.org/ > >> > [2] > >> > https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=aptitude&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all > >> > >> Hm. I had occasion to go to ¹ yesterday. (In passing, if I re

Re: Packages web page, was Re: Aptitude package manager "package"

2018-01-24 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 1/24/18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 09:05:08AM -0600, David Wright wrote: >> So forget using this page for anything really vague like kernel-image, >> even if you set suite, section and then architecture; it can't even >> show you the most basic generic versions like lin

Re: Packages web page, was Re: Aptitude package manager "package"

2018-01-24 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
Good morning.. :) I just noticed Webmaster was CC'd here. I left that in place because who knows when it comes to various Debian features evolving their perks over time.. :) On 1/24/18, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 24 Jan 2018 at 10:53:17 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018

Re: Packages web page, was Re: Aptitude package manager "package"

2018-01-24 Thread Curt
On 2018-01-24, wrote: > >> > [1] https://packages.debian.org/ >> > [2] >> > https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=aptitude&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all >> >> Hm. I had occasion to go to ¹ yesterday. (In passing, if I remove the >> word "index", I end up at a different page ² but the r

Re: Packages web page, was Re: Aptitude package manager "package"

2018-01-24 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 09:05:08AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 24 Jan 2018 at 10:53:17 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:21:45AM +0100, Floris wrote: > > > Op Tue, 23 Jan 2018 20:44:19 +0100 schreef OECT T : > > >

Re: packages from http://snapshot.debian.org/ would not install (then did with dpkg)

2016-12-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 07:53:21PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Using Jessie, as I was unable to discover how to install a pair of > interdependent .debs Put them both on your local machine, and install them using a single dpkg -i command: [sudo if needed] dpkg -i thing1.deb thing2.deb

Re: Packages fail to install due to post-install scripts failing

2016-10-16 Thread rhkramer
Nicolas, Thanks--I guess things are OK now, but I'm not sure--well, let me tell you what I found and what I think happened. I went to uninstall doxygen (just in case there was some part of it hanging around that I should get rid of before trying to install again). I used apt- get from a konsol

Re: Packages fail to install due to post-install scripts failing

2016-10-16 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 vendémiaire, an CCXXV, rhkra...@gmail.com a écrit : > I've had several packages fail to install with a message saying that the post- > install script failed (returned a 1, iirc). (I'm writing from my Wheezy > machine.) > Has anybody been having similar problems? Any hints as to w

Re: vagrant [Was: Re: packages status]

2014-02-23 Thread Felix C. Stegerman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2014-01-08 17:12, Felix C. Stegerman wrote: > On 2014-01-08 04:44, Diogene Laerce wrote: >> Hi, > [...] I would like to automate the installation process from scratch to a django development platform. But forgot to note every modi

vagrant [Was: Re: packages status]

2014-01-08 Thread Felix C. Stegerman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2014-01-08 04:44, Diogene Laerce wrote: > Hi, > >>> [...] I would like to automate the installation process from >>> scratch to a django development platform. But forgot to note >>> every modification from the very beginning. ^^ :) >> I'm not su

Re: packages status

2014-01-07 Thread Diogene Laerce
Hi, [...] I would like to automate the installation process from scratch to a django development platform. But forgot to note every modification from the very beginning. ^^ :) I'm not sure what you mean by "development platform", but for standardized/customized development/testing environments,

Re: packages status

2014-01-07 Thread Felix C. Stegerman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2014-01-07 05:08, Diogene Laerce wrote: > [...] I would like to automate the installation process from > scratch to a django development platform. But forgot to note every > modification from the very beginning. ^^ :) I'm not sure what you mean b

Re: packages status

2014-01-06 Thread Diogene Laerce
Is there a simple way to get the list of packages installed since the fresh installation of deby ? How long ago was your fresh installation? There are backups of the dpkg package status kept in /var/backups that go back a week. And if you have a system backup you could retrieve older copies g

Re: packages status

2014-01-02 Thread Bob Proulx
Diogene Laerce wrote: > >>Is there a simple way to get the list of packages installed since the fresh > >>installation of deby ? > >How long ago was your fresh installation? There are backups of the > >dpkg package status kept in /var/backups that go back a week. And if > >you have a system backu

Re: packages status

2014-01-02 Thread Diogene Laerce
Is there a simple way to get the list of packages installed since the fresh installation of deby ? How long ago was your fresh installation? There are backups of the dpkg package status kept in /var/backups that go back a week. And if you have a system backup you could retrieve older copies g

Re: packages status

2014-01-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Diogene Laerce wrote: > Is there a simple way to get the list of packages installed since the fresh > installation of deby ? How long ago was your fresh installation? There are backups of the dpkg package status kept in /var/backups that go back a week. And if you have a system backup you could

Re: packages status

2014-01-01 Thread Diogene Laerce
Is there a simple way to get the list of packages installed since the fresh installation of deby ? I saw etckeeper in the doc (it's a bit late for that :( ) and I know I can go through the logs : /var/log/dpkg.log, /var/log/apt/term.log, /var/log/aptitude but Christmas was only 7 days ago, mayb

Re: packages status

2014-01-01 Thread Joe
On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 10:12:07 +0700 Diogene Laerce wrote: > > >> Is there a simple way to get the list of packages installed since > >> the fresh > >> installation of deby ? > >> > >> I saw etckeeper in the doc (it's a bit late for that :( ) and I > >> know I can > >> go through the logs : /var/l

Re: packages status

2013-12-31 Thread Diogene Laerce
Is there a simple way to get the list of packages installed since the fresh installation of deby ? I saw etckeeper in the doc (it's a bit late for that :( ) and I know I can go through the logs : /var/log/dpkg.log, /var/log/apt/term.log, /var/log/aptitude but Christmas was only 7 days ago, m

Re: packages status

2013-12-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 12/31/2013 06:58 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: Hi, Is there a simple way to get the list of packages installed since the fresh installation of deby ? I saw etckeeper in the doc (it's a bit late for that :( ) and I

Re: Packages removed from testing

2013-12-30 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Mon, 30 Dec 2013 11:20:50 +0100 Sven Joachim napísal: > On 2013-12-30 10:58 +0100, Slavko wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > please, it is some time ago, when some packages was removed from > > testing. I wait some time, because this sometime happens due > > dependencies, but now it take long tim

Re: Packages removed from testing

2013-12-30 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-12-30 10:58 +0100, Slavko wrote: > Hi, > > please, it is some time ago, when some packages was removed from > testing. I wait some time, because this sometime happens due > dependencies, but now it take long time and i am not able to find the > reason (qa pages, hint, etc...). Usually you

Re: packages for amd64 and i386 at a different version

2013-10-18 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Jari Fredrisson writes: > I can't install or update ANYTHING in my wheezy right now. First of all, versions for different architectures are equal. For example: freehck@lpt00:~% apt-cache policy libcurl3 libcurl3: Installed: 7.32.0-1 Candidate: 7.32.0-1 Version

Re: packages for amd64 and i386 at a different version

2013-10-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-10-18 17:54 +0200, Jari Fredrisson wrote: > I can't install or update ANYTHING in my wheezy right now. > > Whatever I try, there is always this: > > dpkg: error processing libcurl3:amd64 (--configure): > package libcurl3:amd64 7.26.0-1+wheezy4 cannot be configured because > libcurl3:i386

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2011-01-02 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 02 January 2011 10:29:14 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 10:05:38AM +, Lisi wrote: > > On Monday 15 November 2010 03:54:42 Bob Proulx wrote: > > > Rob Hurle wrote: > > > > Does anyone have advice on the best way to handle a .deb package? > > > > > > The easiest way

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2011-01-02 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 10:05:38AM +, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 15 November 2010 03:54:42 Bob Proulx wrote: > > Rob Hurle wrote: > > > Does anyone have advice on the best way to handle a .deb package? > > > > The easiest way is to not handle .deb files at all. Instead allow > > apt-get to instal

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2011-01-02 Thread Lisi
On Monday 15 November 2010 03:54:42 Bob Proulx wrote: > Rob Hurle wrote: > > Does anyone have advice on the best way to handle a .deb package? > > The easiest way is to not handle .deb files at all. Instead allow > apt-get to install the package and any dependencies from the network. I use aptitu

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-16 Thread Tyler Smith
Bob Proulx writes: > Tyler Smith wrote: >> Doesn't the 'ALL=(ALL) ALL' line give the user unlimited authority >> anyways? > > It isn't about restricting privilege. Both have superuser privilege. > It is about the invocation environment. > I hadn't thought of that. Makes sense. > Sure if you ar

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-16 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4ce196ad.2070...@googlemail.com>, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: >15/11/2010 21:01, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> In <20101115192606.gb18...@hysteria.proulx.com>, Bob Proulx wrote: >>> * 'sudo' uses your user password while 'su' uses root's password. >>> >>> With sudo you manage your own

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-16 Thread Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen
see below. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 00:54, Bob Proulx wrote: > Rob Hurle wrote: >> Does anyone have advice on the best way to handle a .deb package? > > The easiest way is to not handle .deb files at all.  Instead allow > apt-get to install the package and any dependencies from the network. > >> C

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-15 Thread Simon Hollenbach
Sry, didnt reply to list in first place... - Original message - > - Original message - > >      I'm quite new to debian and I'm getting my head around dpkg, > > apt-get, aptitude and synaptic.   Does anyone have advice on the best > > way to handle a .deb package?   Can I make up

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-15 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
15/11/2010 21:01, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <20101115192606.gb18...@hysteria.proulx.com>, Bob Proulx wrote: >> * 'sudo' uses your user password while 'su' uses root's password. >> With sudo you manage your own password. With su you manage both >> your password *and* root's password. >

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20101115192606.gb18...@hysteria.proulx.com>, Bob Proulx wrote: >* 'sudo' uses your user password while 'su' uses root's password. > With sudo you manage your own password. With su you manage both > your password *and* root's password. For those that prefer using root's password, sudo has th

Re: Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-15 Thread Blair Mason
Kelly Clowers writes:>> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 23:20, Andrei Popescu wrote:>>> On Du, 14 nov 10, 20:54:42, Bob Proulx wrote: And if 'sudo' isn't configured for you then that is the first thingthat you will want to do. :-)   # visudo   rob     ALL=(ALL) ALL>> What's w

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <87k4ker2gj@guruji.demimonde>, Tyler Smith wrote: >Kelly Clowers writes: >> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 23:20, Andrei Popescu >> wrote: >>> On Du, 14 nov 10, 20:54:42, Bob Proulx wrote: And if 'sudo' isn't configured for you then that is the first thing that you will want to do. :-)

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Tyler Smith wrote: > Doesn't the 'ALL=(ALL) ALL' line give the user unlimited authority > anyways? It isn't about restricting privilege. Both have superuser privilege. It is about the invocation environment. The difference is that: * 'sudo' uses your user password while 'su' uses root's passwor

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-15 Thread Tyler Smith
Kelly Clowers writes: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 23:20, Andrei Popescu > wrote: >> On Du, 14 nov 10, 20:54:42, Bob Proulx wrote: >>> >>> And if 'sudo' isn't configured for you then that is the first thing >>> that you will want to do. :-) >>> >>>   # visudo >>>   rob     ALL=(ALL) ALL >> >> What

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-15 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 23:20, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Du, 14 nov 10, 20:54:42, Bob Proulx wrote: >> >> And if 'sudo' isn't configured for you then that is the first thing >> that you will want to do. :-) >> >>   # visudo >>   rob     ALL=(ALL) ALL > > What's wrong with su? It is the The Wrong

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-15 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:22:13 +1100, Rob Hurle wrote: >> I'm quite new to debian and I'm getting my head around dpkg, apt-get, >> aptitude and synaptic. Does anyone have advice on the best way to >> handle a .deb package? Can I make up my own repository of .deb packages >> and point apt-get at

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-15 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:22:13 +1100, Rob Hurle wrote: > I'm quite new to debian and I'm getting my head around dpkg, apt-get, > aptitude and synaptic. Does anyone have advice on the best way to > handle a .deb package? Can I make up my own repository of .deb packages > and point apt-get at that t

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 14 nov 10, 20:54:42, Bob Proulx wrote: > > And if 'sudo' isn't configured for you then that is the first thing > that you will want to do. :-) > > # visudo > rob ALL=(ALL) ALL What's wrong with su? Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http:/

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Rob Hurle wrote: > Does anyone have advice on the best way to handle a .deb package? The easiest way is to not handle .deb files at all. Instead allow apt-get to install the package and any dependencies from the network. > Can I make up my own repository of .deb packages and point apt-get > at t

Re: Packages - what's the best way?

2010-11-14 Thread teddieeb
Your primary method of installing programs is going to be apt-get, especially if your new to linux. Apt is in essence a front end that runs ontop of dpkg and uses remote repositories to fetch, install, remove, and upgrade programs, including the dependences of those programs. This is a major ad

Re: Packages for reboot and shutdown

2010-10-30 Thread Mark Allums
On 10/30/2010 11:23 PM, Jason Hsu, embedded engineer, Linux user wrote: What package do I need to add to a minimal Debian installation so that I can reboot or shut down from GNOME, XFCE, Fluxbox, IceWM, etc.? initscripts? GDM and GNOME, for example, already know how to run shutdown as in: #

Re: Packages/DiffIndex

2010-10-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 20 oct 10, 19:56:46, Andrei Popescu wrote: > [Moved back to debian-user] This time for real... > On Mi, 20 oct 10, 14:47:17, André Berger wrote: > > David Kalnischkies (2010-10-20): > > > > > mhh, yeah, if debian-users@ can't provide help instantly: ask again > > > - or just wait a tiny

Re: packages cannot be authenticated

2009-11-11 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. I think after $ sudo apt-get update i have got a message on $ sudo -t stable apt-get upgrade stating that some packages can not be authenticated. Before - all was all right: i was updating and upgrading - no problems, but now I have the problem. Sometimes t

Re: Packages cannot be authenticated

2009-04-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,13.Apr.09, 01:17:59, Miguel Obliviemo wrote: > What is the significance of this message, when installing from a > downloaded (with Jigdo) Lenny DVD? Did you add the DVD to sources.list with apt-cdrom (or how did you install the package)? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply,

Re: packages in a fresh install

2009-01-27 Thread Thilo Six
Thilo Six wrote the following on 28.01.2009 06:23 <- *snip* -> > In the case above all packages are not marked as "auto" ^-non sorry for the writing error -- bye Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.

Re: packages in a fresh install

2009-01-27 Thread Thilo Six
Ron Johnson wrote the following on 28.01.2009 05:42 <- *snip* -> >>> # apt-get install \ >>> $(cat /media/thumb/package.versions.txt | cut -d/ -f1) >> Just a lillte heads up. >> At least since lenny then you might be interessted in: ,[ man 8 apt-mark ] When you reques

Re: packages in a fresh install

2009-01-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/27/2009 10:02 PM, Thilo Six wrote: Ron Johnson wrote the following on 27.01.2009 23:05 <- *snip* -> My machine: $ apt-show-versions > /media/thumb/package.versions.txt Their machine, when in a minimal state: # apt-get install \ $(cat /media/thumb/package.versions.txt | cut -d/ -f1)

Re: packages in a fresh install

2009-01-27 Thread Thilo Six
Ron Johnson wrote the following on 27.01.2009 23:05 <- *snip* -> > My machine: > $ apt-show-versions > /media/thumb/package.versions.txt > > Their machine, when in a minimal state: > # apt-get install \ > $(cat /media/thumb/package.versions.txt | cut -d/ -f1) Just a lillte heads up. At lea

Re: packages in a fresh install

2009-01-27 Thread Kevin Monceaux
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Kevin Monceaux wrote: # man dpkg works wonders. :-) Also from the dselect man page: I think I browsed too many man pages before I replied. The above should read "from the dpkg man page." :-) Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Brucevill

Re: packages in a fresh install

2009-01-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/27/2009 03:23 PM, Kevin Monceaux wrote: Marcelo, On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: You might transfer this file to another computer, and install it there with: dpkg --clear-selections dpkg --set-selections and then, in order to install the package

Re: packages in a fresh install

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Wagner
* Marcelo Chiapparini 27.01.2009 > Michael Wagner wrote: >> it's easy. From the manpage of "dpkg" >> >> To make a local copy of the package selection states: >> dpkg --get-selections >myselections >> >> You might transfer this file to another computer, and install it there with: >>

Re: packages in a fresh install

2009-01-27 Thread Kevin Monceaux
Marcelo, On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: You might transfer this file to another computer, and install it there with: dpkg --clear-selections dpkg --set-selections and then, in order to install the packages, should I do "aptitude update"? # man dpkg

Re: packages in a fresh install

2009-01-27 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Michael Wagner wrote: * Marcelo Chiapparini 27.01.2009 I am upgrading my notebook. The old one runs etch like a charm. I want to run etch in the new notebook too, and to have installed in it exactly the same packages than in the old one. So, 1) does exist a file with the information of all

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