On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 12:10:32PM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
> /etc hosts shows just me per brenda's email 12/12/01
> 127.0.0.1 hephaestus localhost
Oops, this should be:
127.0.0.1 localhost
192.168.0.1 hephaestus
That second number should be taken from one of the
private ip namespaces:
Class
Thus spake Ian Balchin:
> Hi,
>
> Almost there!
>
> I did a complete reinstall.
>
> Setserial reports data in conformity with the hardware setting and
> /etc/serial.conf has the correct entries.
>
> Minicom communicates with the modem through /dev/ttyS1 fine.
>
> I have wvdial operational a
Hi,
Almost there!
I did a complete reinstall.
Setserial reports data in conformity with the hardware setting and
/etc/serial.conf has the correct entries.
Minicom communicates with the modem through /dev/ttyS1 fine.
I have wvdial operational and it connects ppp as I can do 'dig' on
imagine
"Ian Balchin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I need to get diald out of the system. I suppose that I can remove it
> from init.d but would I not also have to remove the entry from each of
> the rc[0-6S] files as well? Since update does an addition to these
> files (as used with the numlock script
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 10:58:03PM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
| dman, Brenda, Karsten, & others, hi,
|
| following quite heavy complaints about my long-running Subject
| line I changed it but have lost all help in the process, so am
| posting this again under the original offending subject line.
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:22:29 -0500, Brenda J. Butler wrote:
>On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 08:15:35AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 03:58:05PM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
>> > Karsten M. Self wrote:
Thank you, Brenda. That is the most cogent, concise, and readable
explanation I'v
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 08:15:35AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 03:58:05PM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
> > Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > > Place this in in your /etc/rc.d/rc.local to activate Numlock for the
> > > first six terminals:
> > >
> > > echo "Activating Numlock ...
on Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 10:58:03PM +0200, Ian Balchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> dman, Brenda, Karsten, & others, hi,
>
> following quite heavy complaints about my long-running Subject
> line I changed it but have lost all help in the process, so am
> posting this again under the original off
* Karsten M. Self spake thus:
> > Could be I just did it wrong. Maybe the
> > echo foo > /dev/ttyS0
> > method doesn't have any way to say back "OK". Except for
> > lighting up the lights and making beeping noises, of course.
>
> AFAIK, it doesn't.
>
> My usual test is to run a test string int
on Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 10:29:19PM -0500, Brenda J. Butler ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> > I was getting no reaction from the modem with a command sent as an
> > echo. Neither did I succeed in either sending anything from
> > minicom, what I mean is that I could not even type an AT command
> > t
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 12:07:52AM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
| I am running mutt (what does that stand for?) as suggested by Brenda.
Mutt is a "mutt" -- a mix of other mailers. Really it is a separate
code base, but it borrows much of its interface (keybindings at least)
from elm and features an
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 09:08:11AM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
| Hi, all,
|
| I have received airmail my copy of the GNU/Debian Linux Bible.
|
| I think thios will be a great help. It provides a good 'howto' overview
| of all the maim poits and processes and is suitable for a relative linux
| be
You really ought to come up with better subject lines -- many of us
(myself included) simply breeze right over uninformative ones like yours,
and it's made particularly bad when you use the same one over and over.
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on Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 11:13:33PM +0200, Ian Balchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello, all,
>
> I am, after all, still alive.
>
> I plonked an old internal 14400 modem in and had it working in no time
> flat. wvdialconf went fine. My wvdial.conf is now like the one that
> Brenda showed me, a
Ian,
> I am, after all, still alive.
Good!
> I plonked an old internal 14400 modem in and had it working in no time
> flat. wvdialconf went fine. My wvdial.conf is now like the one that
> Brenda showed me, and I added in the line about the new PPPD having found
> from man wvdial that the ve
> I was getting no reaction from the modem with a command sent as an
> echo. Neither did I succeed in either sending anything from
> minicom, what I mean is that I could not even type an AT command
> to send in minicom, nothing would appear on the screen from the
> keyboard.
Ah, maybe you have
on Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 08:57:21PM -0800, Karsten M. Self
(kmself@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> on Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 08:53:29PM -0800, ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Sunday 02 December 2001 08:41 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > > on Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 05:49:21PM +0200, Ian Balchin
> > ([EMAI
on Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 08:53:29PM -0800, ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sunday 02 December 2001 08:41 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 05:49:21PM +0200, Ian Balchin
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > /dev/ttyS[012] almost certainly isn't going to be the devic
On Sunday 02 December 2001 08:41 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 05:49:21PM +0200, Ian Balchin
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[snip]
>
> /dev/ttyS[012] almost certainly isn't going to be the device file you
> want though.
>
why wouldn't he want this? my modem uses /dev/ttyS1--alw
on Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 05:49:21PM +0200, Ian Balchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> We came to a grinding halt long before consideration of the packages about
> which you wish to differ.
>
> I installed via tasksel the 'Dial Up' packages.
>
> All went well until wvdialconf had its turn. No modem
Ian,
You've probably got past this stage by now, but anyway:
> Facts:
> Microcom Deskporte 28.8P modem was working minutes before I took it into
> my hot waiting hands.
When it was working, was it plugged into the serial or parallel
port?
> The modem is switched on.
> The correct light (HS) i
On Sun, 2001-12-02 at 16:13, Ian Balchin wrote:
> OK, OK, OK,
>
> I _am_ reading the modem-HOWTO and the wvdial README right now.
>
> I can see this is a complex subject.
>
> I have installed minicom but can only run from root. When run from user
> I get:
>
> minicom cannot open /dev/ttyS1:
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 12:13:50AM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
| OK, OK, OK,
|
| I _am_ reading the modem-HOWTO and the wvdial README right now.
|
| I can see this is a complex subject.
|
| I have installed minicom but can only run from root. When run from user
| I get:
|
| minicom cannot open
dman writes:
> You want chat, pppd, and minicom.
He already has chat and pppd. They are in the base system.
> minicom is interactive and useful for investigating the sequence of
> interactions your ISP needs for dialing.
However, most ISP's use PAP so it is best to try that before messing aroun
On Sat, Dec 01, 2001 at 01:53:36PM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
| Right,
|
| I have got my 'new' external Microcom 28.8 modem and will be using
| tasksel this weekend to install appropriate packages for email and
| usenet activity.
You want chat, pppd, and minicom. minicom is interactive and usef
Right,
I have got my 'new' external Microcom 28.8 modem and will be using
tasksel this weekend to install appropriate packages for email and
usenet activity.
Definitely not a winmodem!
Hold thumbs.
Regards
Ian
Ian Balchin
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> From: "Brenda J. Butler"
> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:14:22 -0500
> To: Ian Balchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i
> Subject: Re: Newbie comments & queries
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 09:21:35PM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
> >
"Karsten M. Self" writes:
>> If you are into Emacs you might, later want to look at Gnus, a
>> newsreader which also handles mail really well - especially useful for
>> dealing with lots of mail from mailing lists etc.
>
> Heard that it's another good & powerful mail handler.
Yes - it was an expe
on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 10:11:42AM +, Glyn Millington ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> "Karsten M. Self" writes:
>
> >> I guess I was looking for something like that, because I cannot see
> >> with emacs how you can make things bold, italic, or anything else.
>
> > Emacs is a text editor. It i
"Karsten M. Self" writes:
>> I guess I was looking for something like that, because I cannot see
>> with emacs how you can make things bold, italic, or anything else.
> Emacs is a text editor. It includes the ability to code up documents in
> various markup languages -- HTML, LaTeX, DocBook, g
on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:06:50PM +0200, Ian Balchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Brenda, Matthew, et al,
>
> > You can try putting
> > echo "running /etc/bash.bashrc"
> > echo "running .bashrc"
> > etc in your startup files, and see the lines print out when
> > you log in. The full list of
> No.1.
>
> In the /etc/profile file the line
>
> eval $(dircolors /etc/DIR_COLORS -b)
>
> gives an error because of the lack of the file
> DIR_COLORS. I have just put this in as
>
> eval $(dircolors -b) and it seems to go fine.
Ok... you could man dircolors to see what is supposed to be in
D
Brenda, Matthew, et al,
> You can try putting
> echo "running /etc/bash.bashrc"
> echo "running .bashrc"
> etc in your startup files, and see the lines print out when
> you log in. The full list of init files that are read for
> each login and new shell is given in bash(1) (search for
> INVOC
I hit reply too soon, I meant to copy this to the list.
Here it is.
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On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 09:21:35PM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> Brenda told me not to
Hi, all,
Brenda told me not to go into root so I have tried to obey her
commands. I did go into root & change the permissions of the
various files so that I can work with them logged in as 'ian'.
Have copied them all as .old so can restore to original state if
the mess gets out of hand.
I hav
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:00:00PM +1100, Matthew Dalton wrote:
| Ian Balchin wrote:
| >
| > Karsten & Matthew,
| >
| > Thanks, you have cleared up the mysteries for me. Well,
| > almost.
| >
| > s, if Debian is looking for a bashrc or profile file, it
| > won't mind if it has a dot
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:00:00PM +1100, Matthew Dalton wrote:
> Ian Balchin wrote:
> >
> > Karsten & Matthew,
> >
> > Thanks, you have cleared up the mysteries for me. Well,
> > almost.
> >
> > s, if Debian is looking for a bashrc or profile file, it
> > won't mind if it has a dot
> Karsten & Matthew,
>
> Thanks, you have cleared up the mysteries for me. Well,
> almost.
>
> s, if Debian is looking for a bashrc or profile file, it
> won't mind if it has a dot in front or not, right? :>
>
I believe the dot is necessary, unless you specifically tell bash wer
Ian Balchin wrote:
>
> Karsten & Matthew,
>
> Thanks, you have cleared up the mysteries for me. Well,
> almost.
>
> s, if Debian is looking for a bashrc or profile file, it
> won't mind if it has a dot in front or not, right? :>
Not exactly...
If it's in your home directory, it's
On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 08:05:55AM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
| Brenda et al.
|
| Thanks, I have the directory colouring OK now, as the user I had
| to do the bash_profile to get it running (which 'include's the
| bashrc)
|
| I wanted to colorise the prompt. Also (down the road) I wanted to
To
on Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 08:05:55AM +0200, Ian Balchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Brenda et al.
>
> Thanks, I have the directory colouring OK now, as the user I had
> to do the bash_profile to get it running (which 'include's the
> bashrc)
>
> I wanted to colorise the prompt. Also (down the ro
Ian Balchin wrote:
> I wanted to colorise the prompt. Also (down the road) I wanted to
> get some colour to joe (they have it yellow and red at the local
> university) as it is a bit bland with everything white on black.
This is something that Joe itself must support for it to work. I don't
know
Brenda et al.
Thanks, I have the directory colouring OK now, as the user I had
to do the bash_profile to get it running (which 'include's the
bashrc)
I wanted to colorise the prompt. Also (down the road) I wanted to
get some colour to joe (they have it yellow and red at the local
university)
> I thought that I had fixed up color on the ls command but it seems not.
> I am logged in as user not root
>
> The mini Colour-ls HOWTO said to add certain lines into .bashrc - well
> they were already there so I uncommented them.
Once you uncomment them you have to run the script again. You
Ian Balchin([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Despite the fact that at install time I gave the command line parameters
> for lp (lp port=0x378, irq=7) and this was accepted as 'installation
> successful', I see at boot time references to 'polling'
>
> I had tried to add this line
>
Brenda, hi,
> > > The lpr switch -i appears to do nothing for the margin. Thus,
>
> The bad news is, according to the lpr man page, "this option
> is not supported on all printers".
Not on my man page it doesn't
Despite the fact that at install time I gave the command line parameters
for lp (l
on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 08:13:24AM -0500, Brenda J. Butler ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 12:35:19PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 05:42:51AM +0200, Ian Balchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > wrote:
> > > # pr myfile -o6 | lpr
>
> Well I didn't know ab
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 12:35:19PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 05:42:51AM +0200, Ian Balchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
> > Hi, all,
> >
> > My last post seemed to have evaporated into thin air. Tere have been no
> > answers so imagine that you didn't see it either
On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 04:18:36PM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
| I have feelers out for some ram but am not going to worry too much
| about a gui at present. Plenty to learn at the prompt.
Unfortuantely, _new_ RAM is cheap, but _old_ RAM is very expensive.
You can get a new 128MB PC133 DIMM for a
on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 05:42:51AM +0200, Ian Balchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> My last post seemed to have evaporated into thin air. Tere have been no
> answers so imagine that you didn't see it either.
>
> Dman, to answer you, I can print via lpr but nothing out of cat [file]
Brenda et al, hi.
> As another poster said, don't experiment in root.
> Log in as a regular user and experiment there.
OK, point taken, I will not fiddle in root. :(
I am studying your essay on drives and directories. I will play
around this evening and find my floppy. I am expecting that it
w
>>
> 16 Mb RAM should be enough to run Linux without
> X Windows, but it is just enough to run linux and
> X Windows. If you try to run any sizable applicaton
> alongside X Windows you will run into swapping
> problems.
Just want to add a comment, I just installed debian
for my friend in a Pent
On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 10:24:13AM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
> Last night I went through the info documentation system
> which i thought would be a good start. Then read and
> played with the ls command. I uncommented the lines in
> the .bashrc in root to give me colours for ls. I must also
As a
On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 10:24:13AM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
| dman et al
|
| .za stands for Zuid Afrika which is from the Dutch who founded the
| colony at the Cape Of Good Hope.
Oh, ok.
| Last night I went through the info documentation system which i
| thought would be a good start. Then rea
on Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 10:24:13AM +0200, Ian Balchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Amazingly he replied that he had a book on Linux. You can guess which
> one that is! He had given it away to another dealer but hopefully
> will get it back for me. I looked at the Linux Bible on line by Steve
> H
Thus spake Ian Balchin:
> Where has my floppy drive gone? I can find it nowhere. I can find no command
> in
> mc to change drive (come back PCTools, all is forgiven!) There is nothing in
> /floppy and nothing in /dev/fd
Peripherals - floppy, CD-ROM, etc usually aren't mounted automatically
on b
dman et al
.za stands for Zuid Afrika which is from the Dutch who founded the colony at
the Cape Of Good Hope.
One of my colleages in the book trade specialises in cookbooks. Amazingly he
replied that he had a book on Linux. You can guess which one that is! He had
given it away to another de
>
> and pstree gives a list of running processes, ordered by
> which process is the parent of which other processes.
> $ pstree
>
ps -f also prints processes in a tree of sorts (try ps af to get them
all)
But the trees don't quite seem to line up. Anybody know why?
-ben
--
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On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 09:53:05AM -0500, Brenda J. Butler wrote:
| emacs is a text editor (or "editor" as you call it).
| It has syntax highlighting (as does vim) but you can
| only see the highlighting in X windows. Highlighting
| applies to the file as you see it in the emacs display,
| not a
On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 05:22:53PM +0100, Martin Kacerovsky wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:11:36AM -0500, dman wrote:
> > > (BTW, 'links' is a good text-based web
> > ^^^
> > lynx
>
> I think that links is much better (frame support and many others...)
> and BTW it cam
> On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:11:36AM -0500, dman wrote:
> > (BTW, 'links' is a good text-based web
> ^^^
> lynx
I think that links is much better (frame support and many others...)
and BTW it came from our country from faculty i'm studiing ;)
>
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On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:11:36AM -0500, dman wrote:
> (BTW, 'links' is a good text-based web
^^^
lynx
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On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 02:51:46PM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
> Brenda, I did install the newbie help files, now it would be nice
> to be able to turn some of them into hard copy. I note that the
> files in /usr/doc are the same as in /usr/share/doc (writing this
> from memory, hey) except that
On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 02:51:46PM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
| Hi,
|
| A progress report.
|
| I will stay in the console mode as suggested by Karsten. So no
| more queries on Xfree at the moment.
|
| > On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 10:17:34PM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
| > > device = /dev/ttys0 as
Hi,
A progress report.
I will stay in the console mode as suggested by Karsten. So no
more queries on Xfree at the moment.
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 10:17:34PM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
> > device = /dev/ttys0 as now have a plain serial 2-button on COM1
> > type=ms repeat_type=ms3 (or raw)
dman et al. Hi.
Have done a reinstall. Barest minimum, no extra packages except
for newbie.docs , joe (which am used to on local university Free
BSD system).
> To get mouse support at the console, install gpm. Then edit
> /etc/gpm.conf to have the proper protocol and device for your
> mouse. F
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 11:02:32AM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
> I chose Debian because of the GNU aspect, out of sheer orneryness
> when everyone was telling me to take the easy route with Mandrake,
> Red Hat, or SuSe, and because i liked the name. Not really
> sensible reasons I would agree! (
Thus spake Ian Balchin:
> Will stay in console mode until I find an old computer at an
> auction with some memory inside. Plenty to learn. I thought that
> one could have the mouse in midnite commander like in the old dos
> pctools, but probably not.
>
> Will have go at the printing problem t
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 01:30:55AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>
> - Someone also posted here in the past couple of weeks with a link to
> a consloe-based windowing system that works under GNU/Linux. It's
> not packaged for Debian, but you may (should?) be able to get it
> running
on Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 10:22:01AM +0200, Ian Balchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Karsten et al.
>
>
> > We were all in withdrawal on Friday's downtime
> >
> > > I use a dialup, am waiting for a s/h modem that is coming my way,
> > > 28.8 whatever it was that compaq bought out and shut down
Karsten et al.
> We were all in withdrawal on Friday's downtime
>
> > I use a dialup, am waiting for a s/h modem that is coming my way,
> > 28.8 whatever it was that compaq bought out and shut down.
>
> Hmm...28.8 is *really* slow. You should be able to find 56.6
> either new or used, I'd
on Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 10:16:32AM +0200, Ian Balchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> OK, thanks to all the replies (a busy list!).
;-)
We were all in withdrawal on Friday's downtime
> I use a dialup, am waiting for a s/h modem that is coming my way, 28.8
> whatever it was that compaq bought ou
OK, thanks to all the replies (a busy list!).
Karsten, I read you first so will answer only once, but thanks to
Paolo & Rob as well, lots of useful tips from you all.
m/c = machine
I use a dialup, am waiting for a s/h modem that is coming my way,
28.8 whatever it was that compaq bought out an
[ quoted text rearranged a little ]
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 11:02:32AM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
| I have just installed potato as a dual boot m/c (with dos) on a
| new (for me) Cyrix120 PC. I did several installs to get the hang
| of it and recover from errors made. I have it installed with
Ian Balchin wrote:
Hi,all,
I have just installed potato
Potato is stable, but there's a lot of changes between Potato and Sid
(with Woody being between them), expecially as regards X version 3
version X v.4. You might want to consider pointing your
/etc/apt/sources.list file to sid instead
on Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 11:02:32AM +0200, Ian Balchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,all,
>
>
> I have just joined the list. I haven't been lurking here so hope
> that I am not offending you guys with my surely simple questions.
Only if you promise not to be offended by convoluted answers.
>
Ian Balchin wrote:
>1. The old machine had a sound card after all. How can I
>configure that without another reinstall?
You'll have to recompile the kernel modules. Since your using potato, I'd
recommend that you do
apt-get install kernel-source-2.2.19pre17
It would prompt you to i
> 1. The old machine had a sound card after all. How can I
> configure that without another reinstall?
Depends. Modconf should let you look at the modules available for the
kernel, one of those may support your card. lspci will show what th card is
if it is pci. Isa cards a pain. Look at the s
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