Re: IPv6 and loopback addresses (was Re: DHCP and static addresses)

2025-04-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:21:45AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 4/3/25 13:39, Andy Smith wrote: > > Historically we do not get very far here when talking about IPv6 with > > Gene. > True Andy, but there's no ipv6 within 100 miles of me. The Linux kernel comes with IPv6 on every interface (

Re: IPv6 and loopback addresses (was Re: DHCP and static addresses)

2025-04-04 Thread gene heskett
On 4/3/25 13:39, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 01:28:43PM -, Greg wrote: On 2025-04-03, Dan Purgert wrote: Indeed, the entirety of 127.0.0.0/8 is the virtual loopback adapter (i.e. "localhost"). I thought IPV6 opened up the flood gates of assigning "real" ip addresses In

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers

2025-03-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 09:38:02PM +1030, Mal wrote: > Without the conf package, I still don't get why it populated only one > ipv4 nameserver target and ignored the ipv6 target. Are you sure this is not just what the installation process did? Without "resolvconf" the /etc/resolv.conf file i

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers#

2025-03-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 03:24:24PM -, Greg wrote: > I wonder humorously if this discussion might devolve into yet another > gargantuan thread concerning resolv.conf and whether it's kosher to set > the immutable bit on that file in order to prevent whatever the heck is > writing to it fro

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers#

2025-03-27 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-27, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 09:11:23AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 13:06:54 +, Andy Smith wrote: >> > Without "resolvconf" the /etc/resolv.conf file is just a static file so >> > there's limited things that would be editing it.

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers#

2025-03-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 13:58:49 +, Andy Smith wrote: > I think all DHCP clients in Debian have a "Recomends" relationship on > resolvconf to do this modification for them. hobbit:~$ apt-cache show isc-dhcp-client | grep -e Recommends -e resolv Recommends: isc-dhcp-common Suggests: resolvconf,

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers#

2025-03-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 09:11:23AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 13:06:54 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Without "resolvconf" the /etc/resolv.conf file is just a static file so > > there's limited things that would be editing it. The guesses of "you" > > or "the installer

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers

2025-03-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 13:06:54 +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 09:38:02PM +1030, Mal wrote: > > Without the conf package, I still don't get why it populated only one > > ipv4 nameserver target and ignored the ipv6 target. > > Are you sure this is not just what the ins

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers

2025-03-27 Thread Mal
The interfaces.d directory was empty. > root@debian:/home/user:/etc/network/interfaces.d# ls -lt total 0 Adding that package did add the missing v6 nameserver successfully - thank you *Greg* ! To your question on the resolv.conf file - on another 12.10 machine, I have the same conf and the file

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers

2025-03-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 14:34:13 +1030, Mal wrote: > root@debian:/home/user# more /etc/network/interfaces > source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* > # The loopback network interface >  auto lo >  iface lo inet loopback > >  allow-hotplug enp1s0 >  iface enp1s0 inet static >  address 12.34.56.78 >  net

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers

2025-03-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 02:34:13PM +1030, Mal wrote: > On Debian 6.1.129-1, I have a static network interface conf (no Netplan) > with both IPv4 & IPv6 addressing and Name-servers set. I don't know why only your IPv4 address is making it into resolv.conf, but if the network setup is static th

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers

2025-03-27 Thread Mal
The issue is the missing nameserver target in resolv.  I am expecting two in the echo. Receiving records over the only nameserver target (v4) works fine as expected - using DIG or ping. In my configuration no IPv6 nameserver target is present in resolv, hence it will never use IPv6 towards

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers

2025-03-27 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
Mal writes: > On Debian 6.1.129-1, I have a static network interface conf (no Netplan) > with both IPv4 & IPv6 addressing and Name-servers set. [...] > On another older machine (running kernel 4.9.35-v7+) with exactly the > same configuration layout, I get BOTH the IPv4 & IPv6 addresses returne

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers

2025-03-27 Thread basti
Hello, first of all the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf are queried in order. That means the 2'nd one is only queried when the first one does not answer. Even NXDOMAIN is a valid answer. So the first one should also return IPv6 over a IPv4 connection. How do you query the nameserver? dig, 'get

Re: IPv6, ip token, NetworkManager and accept_ra

2024-02-02 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024, Ralph Aichinger wrote: Hi fellow Debian users! In my quest to advance the IPv6 preparedness of my home LAN I want to find a solution to use IP tokens on all my clients. IP tokens (keeping the host part of the IPv6 address static while getting the subnet part by SLAAC) seem v

Re: IPv6, ip token, NetworkManager and accept_ra

2024-02-02 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Fri, 2024-02-02 at 15:31 +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > It should be if you enter "save" in the nmcli. Thanks, I did not realize this was possible. I probably will use nmcli more often in the future. Ralph

Re: IPv6, ip token, NetworkManager and accept_ra

2024-02-02 Thread Marco Moock
Am 02.02.2024 schrieb Ralph Aichinger : > On Fri, 2024-02-02 at 14:28 +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > > # nmcli c mod enp4s0 ipv6.addr-gen-mode eui64 > > # nmcli c mod enp4s0 ipv6.token ::deca:fbad:c0:ffee > > This is not permanent, is it? It should be if you enter "save" in the nmcli.

Re: IPv6, ip token, NetworkManager and accept_ra

2024-02-02 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Fri, 2024-02-02 at 14:28 +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > In the past the default was to use EUI-64 and have the MAC address in > the address. If that is suitable for you (privacy!), use that. I basically don't care about the privacy aspect for now (it is more of a lab setup, and my IPv4 address is

Re: IPv6, ip token, NetworkManager and accept_ra

2024-02-02 Thread Marco Moock
Am 02.02.2024 schrieb Ralph Aichinger : > In my quest to advance the IPv6 preparedness of my home LAN I want to > find a solution to use IP tokens on all my clients. IP tokens (keeping > the host part of the IPv6 address static while getting the subnet part > by SLAAC) seem very elegant to me, bec

Re: ipv6: temp address does not renew

2024-01-08 Thread Marco Moock
Am 08.01.2024 um 13:01:38 Uhr schrieb Andreas B: > I haven't checked thoroughly (yet), but the only immediate difference > I can see, is that the router lifetime is 600 seconds (RA). My ISP's > router used a lifetime of 86400 seconds (24h), I think. That affect when the old addresses must be remo

Re: ipv6: temp address does not renew

2024-01-08 Thread Andreas B
A follow up on this. I recently swapped my ISP's router with my own. New temp-addresses are now generated when old ones become deprecated, as expected. I haven't checked thoroughly (yet), but the only immediate difference I can see, is that the router lifetime is 600 seconds (RA). My ISP's rout

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-08-13 Thread gene heskett
On 8/13/23 13:59, Celejar wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 16:20:00 +0300 Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 08:04:38AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 05:58:07AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: hosts: files mymachines dns myhostname This is wrong. But I

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-08-13 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 16:20:00 +0300 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 08:04:38AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 05:58:07AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > hosts: files mymachines dns myhostname > > > > This is wrong. > > You're correct, but f

Re: Re: ipv6: temp address does not renew

2023-06-26 Thread Andreas B
Arno, Thank you so much for your prompt response. Very interesting that it's working as expected for you. At least I can isolate the problem to being local for my network. I asked about this in #debian on irc, and it was suggested that I check if I use dhcpv6 or dhcpv6-pd. I'm not 100% into ipv6

Re: ipv6: temp address does not renew

2023-06-26 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi Andreas, Am 26.06.2023 um 11:13 schrieb Andreas B: Hi, I'm very puzzled by the behaviour of ipv6 temp addresses on Debian 12. Expected behaviour: as soon as a temp address becomes deprecated, a new one is generated. This is the behaviour on Debian 11. Reasonable expectation, I think. ..

Re: ipv6 on debian

2023-05-23 Thread Tim Woodall
On Wed, 24 May 2023, cor...@free.fr wrote: greetings, today I got a server from OVH with ipv6 only. is there any lightweight getting started tutorial for using ipv6 on debian? such as ipv6 setup, route, filters, DNS, etc. thanks in advance. Corey Do you mean already configured and working o

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-16 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 01:41:41PM -0500 schrieb gene heskett: Hello Gene and Dave,, > On 2/14/23 10:49, David Wright wrote: > > Wisely done: we don't need it twice … and logs can be lengthy. [...] > Alright guys, I may have an existing system here that shows a 169, but not > as default. Runnin

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:49:51AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 03:07:08PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 02:33:12PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 10 Feb 2023, jeremy ardley wrote: > > you can ping them as in > > > > ping fe80::87d:c6ff:fea4:a

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 04:24:36PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: you basically just made this up No Michael, just recalling our interaction history, the general tone being to give me hell for using hosts files instead of running a dns. I have not told you that you need to use bind instead of hos

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread gene heskett
On 2/15/23 13:08, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 09:30:57AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: True. But I'd also suggest that if you do not want to support /etc/hosts files name resolution methods /etc/hosts works and has worked fine on debian for decades I've got around 5 machines sti

Code of Conduct reminder [WAS Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.]

2023-02-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 01:07:29PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 09:30:57AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > True. But I'd also suggest that if you do not want to support /etc/hosts > > files name resolution methods > > /etc/hosts works and has worked fine on debian for decad

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 10:12:32AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: Sorry, Gene's line was actually "search hosts, nameserver". So, "ping coyote" should have triggered name resolution for "coyote.hosts" and/or "coyote.nameserver". It's just barely conceivable that *something* might have created a re

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 09:30:57AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: True. But I'd also suggest that if you do not want to support /etc/hosts files name resolution methods /etc/hosts works and has worked fine on debian for decades to. Your attitude that everybody with a two machine home network shou

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 10:04:14AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > The part I still don't understand is how adding "search files, nameserver" > to /etc/resolv.conf and rebooting could change the behavior of any of > Gene's commands. Sorry, Gene's line was actually "search hosts, nameserver". So, "p

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 08:34:49AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 07:30:44AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > That said, I'm curious about this part oF Gene's result: > > > > > > gene@bpi54:~$ grep -i bpi54 /etc/hosts > > > > 192.168.71.12 bpi54.coyote.den

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread gene heskett
On 2/15/23 09:20, Charles Curley wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 07:57:09 -0500 gene heskett wrote: 192.168.71.4sixty40.coyote.den sixty40 192.168.71.7vna.coyote.deb vna I think you have a typo in the line for vna. Correct, Charles, but that machine died 2 o

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread gene heskett
On 2/15/23 08:41, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 07:57:09AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: And this disclosed that I had not properly added coyote.coyote.den to the /etc/hosts file on that machine. That mistake, fixed, now makes the local net pingable. The rest of it, whats powered up

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 07:57:09 -0500 gene heskett wrote: > 192.168.71.4 sixty40.coyote.den sixty40 > 192.168.71.7 vna.coyote.deb vna I think you have a typo in the line for vna. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescu

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 03:46:21PM +0300, Reco wrote: libnss-myhostname does that. Why it chooses ipv6 link-local over ipv4 static IP is another question. perhaps because ipv6 is preferred and there is no public ip6. it doesn't really matter because normal users won't notice or care whether it

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 07:57:09AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: And this disclosed that I had not properly added coyote.coyote.den to the /etc/hosts file on that machine. That mistake, fixed, now makes the local net pingable. The rest of it, whats powered up, was/is all pingable. It just wasn't t

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 07:30:44AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: That said, I'm curious about this part oF Gene's result: > gene@bpi54:~$ grep -i bpi54 /etc/hosts > 192.168.71.12 bpi54.coyote.denbpi54 > gene@bpi54:~$ getent hosts bpi54 > fe80::4765:bca4:565d:3c6 bpi54 Wher

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread gene heskett
On 2/15/23 07:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 08:30:08AM +0100, Michel Verdier wrote: Le 15 février 2023 gene heskett a écrit : gene@bpi54:~$ grep -i bpi54 /etc/hosts 192.168.71.12 bpi54.coyote.denbpi54 gene@bpi54:~$ getent hosts bpi54 fe80::4765:bca4:565d:3c

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 07:30:44AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > That said, I'm curious about this part oF Gene's result: > > > > gene@bpi54:~$ grep -i bpi54 /etc/hosts > > > 192.168.71.12 bpi54.coyote.denbpi54 > > > gene@bpi54:~$ getent hosts bpi54 > > > fe80::4

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread gene heskett
On 2/15/23 02:30, Michel Verdier wrote: Le 15 février 2023 gene heskett a écrit : gene@bpi54:~$ grep -i bpi54 /etc/hosts 192.168.71.12 bpi54.coyote.denbpi54 gene@bpi54:~$ getent hosts bpi54 fe80::4765:bca4:565d:3c6 bpi54 gene@bpi54:~$ ping -c1 coyote (this machines alias in /e

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 08:30:08AM +0100, Michel Verdier wrote: > Le 15 février 2023 gene heskett a écrit : > > > gene@bpi54:~$ grep -i bpi54 /etc/hosts > > 192.168.71.12 bpi54.coyote.denbpi54 > > gene@bpi54:~$ getent hosts bpi54 > > fe80::4765:bca4:565d:3c6 bpi54 > > gene@bp

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 03:07:08PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 02:33:12PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Feb 2023, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > you can ping them as in > > > > > > ping fe80::87d:c6ff:fea4:a6fc > > > > > > > ooh, I didn't know that worked. > > >

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 15 février 2023 gene heskett a écrit : > gene@bpi54:~$ grep -i bpi54 /etc/hosts > 192.168.71.12 bpi54.coyote.denbpi54 > gene@bpi54:~$ getent hosts bpi54 > fe80::4765:bca4:565d:3c6 bpi54 > gene@bpi54:~$ ping -c1 coyote (this machines alias in /etc/hosts) > ping: coyote: Name or s

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread gene heskett
On 2/14/23 18:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 05:51:52PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Already done that a month or so ago, to satisfy my own curiosity, the answer is yes host lookups did fail again without it. And just to make sure, I just went to it, removed the lsattr i, from r

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 05:51:52PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Already done that a month or so ago, to satisfy my own curiosity, the answer > is yes host lookups did fail again without it. > > And just to make sure, I just went to it, removed the lsattr i, from > resolv.conf, commented that line

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread gene heskett
On 2/14/23 15:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 03:01:18PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 03:02:22PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Yes Greg, you keep telling me that. But I'm in the process of bringing up a 3dprinter farm, each printer with a bpi5 to manage octo

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 03:01:18PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 03:02:22PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > Yes Greg, you keep telling me that. But I'm in the process of bringing > > up a 3dprinter farm, each printer with a bpi5 to manage octoprint. Joing > > the other 4 on t

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 02:33:12PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2023, jeremy ardley wrote: you can ping them as in ping fe80::87d:c6ff:fea4:a6fc ooh, I didn't know that worked. Same as ping fe80::87d:c6ff:fea4:a6fc%eth0 on my machines at least. No idea how it picks the interfac

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 03:02:22PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Yes Greg, you keep telling me that. But I'm in the process of bringing up a 3dprinter farm, each printer with a bpi5 to manage octoprint. Joing the other 4 on this net running buster and linuxcnc. Just last week I added another bpi5

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 07:42:59PM +, Brian wrote: I was attracted by this idea and it gave me pause for thought. Leaving aside printers that include a network interface, the IPP-over-USB standard applies to a non-network-capable printer. The specs require IPP (put in firmware, I suppose)

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread gene heskett
On 2/14/23 10:49, David Wright wrote: Wisely done: we don't need it twice … and logs can be lengthy. I have seen the 169.254.xxx.yyy on my system, too. It is a Debian Bullseye. To check if Debian works on this hardware I have simply select the xfce4 option in the installer. Either the avahi stu

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 09:48:11AM -0600 schrieb David Wright: Hello David, > On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 11:39:31 (+0100), Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > Am Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 09:29:16PM -0600 schrieb David Wright: > > > On Fri 10 Feb 2023 at 06:40:42 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > On Thu,

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Nicolas George
David Wright (12023-02-14): > > lsusb -v > /tmp/1 > > sudo lsusb -v > /tmp/2 > > diff -u /tmp/1 /tmp/2 > Irrespective of the lines that interested Brian, how did your system > manage to produce no output I copy-pasted only the commands, not their output. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread David Wright
On Tue 14 Feb 2023 at 13:32:37 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote: > Brian (12023-02-14): > > > FWIW, if you invoke lsusb with the -v option, you need > > > some superpowers. So better "sudo lsusb -v". > > I do not believe that to be the case. > > experiment > belief > > lsusb -v > /tmp/1 > sudo lsusb

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 11:39:31 (+0100), Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 09:29:16PM -0600 schrieb David Wright: > > please excuse the late reply. I have had a side discussion with Tomas > in German about the issue I observed, too. > > > On Fri 10 Feb 2023 at 06:40:42 (+0100),

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Network printers from 2016 almost certainly (always in my > experience) do ship with IPP-over-USB. For some reason USB-only > devices generally do not provide it; it's very hit-and-miss. IPP-over-USB basically requires the whole traditional networking stack, so it's no surprise that it's usually

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread gene heskett
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Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Feb 2023 at 14:02:05 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Greg Wooledge (12023-02-14): > > It's certainly more than "the error messages went away". > > Yes, but Reco was smarter than us, with the "> /dev/null". OK, my belief, backed up by experience, is that sudo is not needed to obtain the

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread gene heskett
On 2/14/23 07:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 07:07:58AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 2/14/23 06:29, Brian wrote: Anyway, this USB-only printer from 2016 does not provide an IPP-over-USB service. This is not unexpected. Are you saying that this printer has been sitting on th

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12023-02-14): > It's certainly more than "the error messages went away". Yes, but Reco was smarter than us, with the "> /dev/null". Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 03:37:58PM +0300, Reco wrote: > lsusb -v >/dev/null > > sudo lsusb -v >/dev/null > > > First one shows: "Couldn't open device, some information will be > missing". Second one does not. diff -u <(lsusb -v 2>&1) <(sudo lsusb -v 2>&1) | less gives me 252 lines of diff outp

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Feb 2023 at 07:21:00 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 07:07:58AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On 2/14/23 06:29, Brian wrote: > > > Anyway, this USB-only printer from 2016 does not provide > > > an IPP-over-USB service. This is not unexpected. > > > > > Are you say

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 01:32:37PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Brian (12023-02-14): > > > FWIW, if you invoke lsusb with the -v option, you need > > > some superpowers. So better "sudo lsusb -v". > > I do not believe that to be the case. > > experiment > belief Indeed. lsusb -v >

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Nicolas George
Brian (12023-02-14): > > FWIW, if you invoke lsusb with the -v option, you need > > some superpowers. So better "sudo lsusb -v". > I do not believe that to be the case. experiment > belief lsusb -v > /tmp/1 sudo lsusb -v > /tmp/2 diff -u /tmp/1 /tmp/2 Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 07:07:58AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 2/14/23 06:29, Brian wrote: > > Anyway, this USB-only printer from 2016 does not provide > > an IPP-over-USB service. This is not unexpected. > > > Are you saying that this printer has been sitting on the Staples display for > 5 ye

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread gene heskett
On 2/14/23 06:29, Brian wrote: On Tue 14 Feb 2023 at 06:23:34 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 04:04:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 2/13/23 14:10, Brian wrote: lsusb -v | grep -A 3 bInterfaceClass.*7 FWIW, if you invoke lsusb with the -v option, you need some super

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Feb 2023 at 06:23:34 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 04:04:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On 2/13/23 14:10, Brian wrote: > > > lsusb -v | grep -A 3 bInterfaceClass.*7 > > FWIW, if you invoke lsusb with the -v option, you need > some superpowers. So better "

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 04:04:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 2/13/23 14:10, Brian wrote: > > lsusb -v | grep -A 3 bInterfaceClass.*7 FWIW, if you invoke lsusb with the -v option, you need some superpowers. So better "sudo lsusb -v". Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread gene heskett
On 2/13/23 14:10, Brian wrote: lsusb -v | grep -A 3 bInterfaceClass.*7 gene@coyote:~/Downloads/3dp.stf/trident/stl.stf_from_slipper/02面板安装部分$ lsusb -v | grep -A 3 bInterfaceClass.*7 Couldn't open device, some information will be missing Couldn't open device, some information will be missing

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread gene heskett
On 2/13/23 12:12, Brian wrote: And the model of b&w laser? HL-L2320D Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 11:21:00 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 2/13/23 10:30, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 10:08:22 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > On 2/13/23 10:00, Brian wrote: > > > > On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 09:30:32 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 2/13/23 06:01,

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 11:11:38 -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...] > "Distributed by Debian" is the key phrase here. That qualifier apparently > does not include the better Brothers. The Brother drivers are non-free. They will cease to work. It will be up to Brother to accomodate them to the New A

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread gene heskett
On 2/13/23 10:30, Brian wrote: On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 10:08:22 -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 2/13/23 10:00, Brian wrote: On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 09:30:32 -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 2/13/23 06:01, Brian wrote: On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 09:25:15 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 20

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread gene heskett
On 2/13/23 10:00, Brian wrote: On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 09:30:32 -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 2/13/23 06:01, Brian wrote: On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 09:25:15 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 07:12:42PM +, Brian wrote: [...] Fortunately, the vast majority of users with a

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread gene heskett
On 2/13/23 10:00, Brian wrote: On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 09:30:32 -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 2/13/23 06:01, Brian wrote: On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 09:25:15 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 07:12:42PM +, Brian wrote: [...] Fortunately, the vast majority of users with a

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 09:30:32 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 2/13/23 06:01, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 09:25:15 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 07:12:42PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > Fortunately, the vast majority of users w

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:25:22AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...] > Ahh nice Tomas, until it says Brother on the printer. Brother has a system > of drivers AND a Linux installer that will make their printers work exactly > on Linux as they do on windows [...] Last Brother I had was straight PS

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread gene heskett
On 2/13/23 06:01, Brian wrote: On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 09:25:15 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 07:12:42PM +, Brian wrote: [...] Fortunately, the vast majority of users with a modern printer have not taken a similar view. They now enjoy an effortless and enjoyable pr

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 11:00:48AM +, Brian wrote: [...] > > My printer is all well, thankyouverymuch. Whenever I'm after an > > "experience", I take my bike and ride to the mountains, very > > enjoyable :) > > Such a journey would give ample opportunity to ponder why mDNS > multicasting is

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 09:25:15 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 07:12:42PM +, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > Fortunately, the vast majority of users with a modern printer have > > not taken a similar view. They now enjoy an effortless and enjoyable > > printing experien

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 09:29:16PM -0600 schrieb David Wright: Hi David, please excuse the late reply. I have had a side discussion with Tomas in German about the issue I observed, too. > On Fri 10 Feb 2023 at 06:40:42 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 03:32:46PM -0500

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-13 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 07:12:42PM +, Brian wrote: [...] > Fortunately, the vast majority of users with a modern printer have > not taken a similar view. They now enjoy an effortless and enjoyable > printing experience. My printer is all well, thankyouverymuch. Whenever I'm after an "experie

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-12 Thread Brian
On Sun 12 Feb 2023 at 07:55:04 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 09:29:16PM -0600, David Wright wrote: [...] > > So it's difficult to figure out why some are plagued by these > > addresses, made worse when one gets used for the default route, eg > > https://lists.debian.

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-12 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2023 11 Feb 21:30 -0600, David Wright wrote: > I've read that machines give themselves a 169.254.… address when they > boot up and can't find a DHCP server. But I never see those addresses > when I boot up a machine, disconnected or connected. All I see is > localhost on 127.0.0.1, the machine

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-11 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 09:29:16PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > My systems all have avahi-daemon and avahi-utils installed, and the > laptops have avahi-autoipd as well, but I never see 169.254.… > addresses in the output of ip a¹ or in the logs², or in the output > of avahi-browse -art³ (

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 10 Feb 2023 at 06:40:42 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 03:32:46PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On 2/9/23 07:53, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 07:32:18AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > (I have no idea what md

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 02:11:43PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > "mymachines" comes from libnss-mymachines: > "myhostname" comes from libnss-myhostname: Fascinating. And confusing. So, Gene's Armbian distribution uses those packages by default, and Debian does not, right? Either way, those entr

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-10 Thread gene heskett
On 2/10/23 08:05, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 05:58:07AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: hosts: files mymachines dns myhostname This is wrong. I don't know where you got it from, but "mymachines" and "myhostname" are not valid entries in this file. NOT EVEN IF THEY ARE F

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-10 Thread gene heskett
On 2/10/23 06:15, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: Hi, I'm just an interested reader (now writer?) of this thread and many other threads here. On Feb/10/2023, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:~$ cat /sshnet/bpi54/etc/nsswitch.conf: # /etc/nsswitch.conf # # Example configuration of GNU Name Servic

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-10 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023, jeremy ardley wrote: you can ping them as in ping fe80::87d:c6ff:fea4:a6fc ooh, I didn't know that worked. Same as ping fe80::87d:c6ff:fea4:a6fc%eth0 on my machines at least. No idea how it picks the interface when there's more than one. The interface seems mandatory

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On 10/02/2023 13:04, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 05:58:07AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: hosts: files mymachines dns myhostname This is wrong. I don't know where you got it from, but "mymachines" and "myhostname" are not valid entries in this file. NOT EVEN IF THEY AR

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 08:04:38AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 05:58:07AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > hosts: files mymachines dns myhostname > > This is wrong. You're correct, but for the wrong reason. > I don't know where you got it from, but "

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 05:58:07AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > hosts: files mymachines dns myhostname This is wrong. I don't know where you got it from, but "mymachines" and "myhostname" are not valid entries in this file. NOT EVEN IF THEY ARE FUCKING METASYNTACTIC PLACEHOLDERS for "co

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-10 Thread Carles Pina i Estany
Hi, On Feb/10/2023, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > gene@bpi54:~$ pinfo libc "name server switch" > > > > I think that you intended to use "info", not "pinfo"? > > pinfo is a program (part of the like-named package) for people who > want to miss what info has to offer -- uh -- an alternative us

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 11:05:22AM +, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm just an interested reader (now writer?) of this thread and many > other threads here. > > On Feb/10/2023, gene heskett wrote: > > > gene@coyote:~$ cat /sshnet/bpi54/etc/nsswitch.conf: > > > > # /etc/nsswitch.

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-10 Thread Carles Pina i Estany
Hi, I'm just an interested reader (now writer?) of this thread and many other threads here. On Feb/10/2023, gene heskett wrote: > gene@coyote:~$ cat /sshnet/bpi54/etc/nsswitch.conf: > > # /etc/nsswitch.conf > # > # Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality. > # If you hav

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