Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-02-02 Thread Brian
On Sun 02 Feb 2014 at 15:22:44 -0500, Tom H wrote: > You hadn't specified "from squeeze to qheezy" and you were therefore > implying that it was a general approach. In my own mind I thought I was responding to the previous post: At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my appro

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-02-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Brian wrote: > On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 12:52:05 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian wrote: >>> On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach would b

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 25 ian 14, 15:25:18, Brian wrote: > On Sat 25 Jan 2014 at 20:51:46 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > I think we are doing our best avoid complications but the canonical > > place for the recommended way is the Release Notes. Nothing else. > > > > So as a baseline, process you described is fi

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-25 Thread Brian
On Sat 25 Jan 2014 at 20:51:46 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:25:01AM +, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 11:54:12 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > The recommended way is specific to each release and thoroughly > > > documented in the Release Notes

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-25 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:25:01AM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 11:54:12 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > The recommended way is specific to each release and thoroughly > > documented in the Release Notes. > > Which is where I got what I wrote from: I bet it was only for t

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Brad Alexander
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Robin wrote: > Were those users using Debian stable? I use Sid so I usually > dist-upgrade as long it isn't going obviously affect my system, i.e > removing applications I want to keep. > My process on sid is apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-up

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 12:52:05 -0500, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > >> > >> At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach > >> would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instance

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: >> >> At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach >> would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of >> "squeeze" with "wheezy", and then running >> >> # apt-

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 11:54:12 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > The recommended way is specific to each release and thoroughly > documented in the Release Notes. Which is where I got what I wrote from: If the system being upgraded provides critical services for your users or the network[2], y

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 23 ian 14, 23:47:11, Brian wrote: > On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > > At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach > > would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of > > "squeeze" with "wheezy", and then running > > > > # apt-

Re: Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Clive Standbridge
> At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach would > be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of "squeeze" with > "wheezy", and then running > > # apt-get update > # apt-get dist-upgrade It's not always that straightforward for upgrades between major releases. You

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Brian
On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach > would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of > "squeeze" with "wheezy", and then running > > # apt-get update > # apt-get dist-upgrade > > That as far as

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Bob Bernstein
Thanks to all who have chimed in! On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Klaus wrote: When for instance a new version of an already installed package depends on a previously not installed library, then "apt-get update" cannot update this pkg. You need "dist-upgrade" for that job. Aha. Thx for the RTFM; I had

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Jochen Spieker
Bob Bernstein: > > But the thread currently underway about dist-upgrade suggests that > users are running it rather routinely, and not at all necessarily to > move from one release to the next. > > Can someone please point out what I am missing? What you are doing is generally the safe way. apt-

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Klaus
On 23/01/14 20:51, Bob Bernstein wrote: A thread about dist-upgrade has me confused. In my experience I have only ever run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' when I wanted to move from one release to the next, say, from squeeze to wheezy. Similarly, if I wanted to insure I had the latest versions of packag

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Robin
On 23 January 2014 20:51, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > A thread about dist-upgrade has me confused. In my experience I have only > ever run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' when I wanted to move from one release to > the next, say, from squeeze to wheezy. > > Similarly, if I wanted to insure I had the latest ve

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Shane Johnson
Bob, It was my understanding that dist-upgrade was only needed to resolve issues that couldn't be resolved by upgrade. I have moved from wheezy to jessie with a simple aptitude update and didn't need the dist-upgrade. If this is incorrect I would love to know cause I ran into some issues with my