Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-16 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Andrei Popescu said: > Sylpheed and Claws-Mail have Win32 versions. And they reply correctly to mailing lists. Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Barsoom Project" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debia

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,05.Jan.09, 15:27:44, Ken Teague wrote: > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > See, I just think you guys should stop using bad clients. ;) Kmail > > replies > > to the list (and only to the list) by default. (Which, actually, appears > > to > > be a violation on the relevant standards.

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-07 Thread S. Fishpaste
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:20:14 +0100 (CET), Moderation Robot in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: > Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: >> I believe the (quite valid) suggestion to ditch Gmail is because it >> does not have a 'reply to list function'. Well, there are several >> other reasons, but this is the o

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-07 Thread S. Fishpaste
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 07:37:39 -0500, Paul Cartwright in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: > On Tue January 6 2009, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> I am using "mutt" since 9 years now and currently I have open four XTerm >> running "mutt".  There is nothing which does not work on it. >> >> Thanks, Greetings

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-07 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/07/09 05:30, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: >> iceape-mailnews ;-) > The MUA that starts with Ice and isn't the red-headed step-child... Ice ice baby? Da dun nun da nunnun? -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/07/09 05:30, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 10:44:48PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/06/09 22:37, Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 10:27:46PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/06/09 21:48, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Are you using stock Tbird, or Icew

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 10:44:48PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/06/09 22:37, Kumar Appaiah wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 10:27:46PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 01/06/09 21:48, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: > Are you using stock Tbird, or Iceweasel? (I/w has certain pa

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > I agree and there has been work on that. However, I've yet to see a good > UI for composing sieve scripts. I think one of the webmail packages > SquirelMail(?) or RoundCube(?) has the beginning of a UI. Squirrelmail, with the appropriate addon activated. --

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2009-01-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 06 January 2009, Steve Lamb wrote about 'Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply': >Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> I prefer a sieve, the standard language for server-side mail filtering, >> implementation on my IMAP (and manag

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > God must not love you. Being an Atheist I'm used to it. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC01004 | and dream I do ---+- signature.

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/06/09 22:37, Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 10:27:46PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/06/09 21:48, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Are you using stock Tbird, or Iceweasel? (I/w has certain patches needed by r-t-l.) Stock from Ubuntu/Debian packaging respectively

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 10:27:46PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/06/09 21:48, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Are you using stock Tbird, or Iceweasel? (I/w has certain patches >>> needed by r-t-l.) >> >> Stock from Ubuntu/Debian packaging respectively. Both of which have >> ha

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/06/09 21:48, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Are you using stock Tbird, or Iceweasel? (I/w has certain patches needed by r-t-l.) Stock from Ubuntu/Debian packaging respectively. Both of which have had the patch as part of the Debian version for close to 2 years now (I think).

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/06/09 18:53, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Ron? Am 2009-01-06 13:07:16, schrieb Ron Johnson: maildrop is what you want. *Much* more rational than procmail. (But then, I like Python...) Maildrop is the last thing one would install... The same for Sieve. If you try to konfigure those

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Maildrop is the last thing one would install... The > same for Sieve. If you try to konfigure those blobs > you will get knots and cancer in your brain. > Glad to see you're as rational as ever. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > I prefer a sieve, the standard language for server-side mail filtering, > implementation on my IMAP (and managesieve) server. If only mail clients would incorporate sieve into their normal filtering. IE, my dad probably can't write sieve filters but he can use

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > Are you using stock Tbird, or Iceweasel? (I/w has certain patches > needed by r-t-l.) Stock from Ubuntu/Debian packaging respectively. Both of which have had the patch as part of the Debian version for close to 2 years now (I think). -- Steve C. Lamb |

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Ron? Am 2009-01-06 13:07:16, schrieb Ron Johnson: > maildrop is what you want. *Much* more rational than procmail. > (But then, I like Python...) Maildrop is the last thing one would install... The same for Sieve. If you try to konfigure those blobs you will get knots and cancer in you

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi, Am 2009-01-06 12:09:24, schrieb hose: > I used to use pine too - loved it. I switched to mutt shortly after > college at the encouragement of a number of coworkers. It was > unfortunately terrible for the first couple hours. Then someone gave > me their .muttrc and it was like the who

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/06/09 13:44, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Tuesday 2009 January 06 13:07:16 Ron Johnson wrote: I use procmail. maildrop is what you want. I prefer a sieve, the standard language for server-side mail filtering, implementation on my IMAP (and managesieve) server. Google doesn't seem

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 2009 January 06 13:07:16 Ron Johnson wrote: > > I use procmail. > > maildrop is what you want. I prefer a sieve, the standard language for server-side mail filtering, implementation on my IMAP (and managesieve) server. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@ig

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/06/09 11:51, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Tue January 6 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: Mine is the same that Debian Iceweasel has always been, but with Mnenhy and Reply To List add-ons. -- where do you get this add-on?? There are two addons which claim to do the same thing. I use the one fro

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread hose
On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/06/09 12:36, hose wrote: On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: [snip] yeah, I can see that.. in kmail I have over 200 filters.. that will be the hardest part... [snip] I've never done email filtering in mutt though, so I c

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/06/09 08:09, Steve Lamb wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: I have RTL 0.2.0 on there from a suggestion you made a while back about 0.3.1 not playing nice with IMAP while the older version did. Older versions needed either Mnenhy(which you have) or Enigmail(which I have) to work. 0.3.0 do

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/06/09 12:36, hose wrote: On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: [snip] yeah, I can see that.. in kmail I have over 200 filters.. that will be the hardest part... [snip] I've never done email filtering in mutt though, so I can't speak to that. I use procmail instead,

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Eric Gerlach
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 01:01:18PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2009-01-05 18:13:32, schrieb hose: > > Just use the least sucky client out there (mutt). It has sane reply, > > reply-to, and reply-to-list commands, is extremely fast, and can bend > > to your will if needed, no matter how

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread hose
On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Tue January 6 2009, hose wrote: These days people seem to enjoy posting their config files online with screenshots, so you can see what you get. It's usually a good starting place. I suppose this is why people call mutt a frontend to a

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue January 6 2009, hose wrote: > These days people seem to enjoy posting their config files online with   > screenshots, so you can see what you get.  It's usually a good   > starting place.  I suppose this is why people call mutt a frontend to   > a config file. > > http://wiki.mutt.org/?Confi

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue January 6 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: > Mine is the same that Debian Iceweasel has always been, but with > Mnenhy and Reply To List add-ons. > > -- where do you get this add-on?? google search wasn't too helpful. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread hose
On Jan 6, 2009, at 6:37 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Tue January 6 2009, Michelle Konzack wrote: I am using "mutt" since 9 years now and currently I have open four XTerm running "mutt". There is nothing which does not work on it. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening I used pine 20 year

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Steve Lamb wrote: > I have RTL 0.2.0 on there from a suggestion you made a while back about > 0.3.1 not playing nice with IMAP while the older version did. > Older versions needed either Mnenhy(which you have) or Enigmail(which I > have) to work. 0.3.0 does not need either. But here's th

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/06/09 08:02, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: My User-Agent string is a lot more "rich" than yours. Are you purposefully minimizing it, or could it be a co-symptom of what ever is the real reason why r-t-l doesn't work for you? Yours seems to be inflated for some reason. Here's

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/06/09 07:52, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: My User-Agent string is a lot more "rich" than yours. Are you purposefully minimizing it, or could it be a co-symptom of what ever is the real reason why r-t-l doesn't work for you? Probably not. This one better? Still no r-t-l her

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > My User-Agent string is a lot more "rich" than yours. Are you > purposefully minimizing it, or could it be a co-symptom of what > ever is the real reason why r-t-l doesn't work for you? Yours seems to be inflated for some reason. Here's yours: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X1

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > My User-Agent string is a lot more "rich" than yours. Are you > purposefully minimizing it, or could it be a co-symptom of what > ever is the real reason why r-t-l doesn't work for you? Probably not. This one better? Still no r-t-l here. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/06/09 05:06, Micha Feigin wrote: [snip] I also like to process my mail with fetchmail/procmail and store it in a Mail directory in mh format, something that thunderbird and evolution don't support, don't know about kmail (I don't use kde apps, they spawn too many Have procmail drop it in

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/06/09 03:06, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: You've got to be doing something wrong... Installed Thunderbird, installed Enigmail, downloaded reply-to-list, both versions, installed them, neither work. Can't mess than up Ron, even for me. My User-Agent string is a lot more "ri

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue January 6 2009, Michelle Konzack wrote: > I am using "mutt" since 9 years now and currently I have open four XTerm > running "mutt".  There is nothing which does not work on it. > > Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening I used pine 20 years ago, but I don't think I've ever tried mutt. star

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-01-05 20:33:09, schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.: > Does it work outside of a terminal, yet? :) Seriously though, mutt *is* a > very high-quality MUA. Even if you normally prefer X applications, mutt > is worth a look. I am using "mutt" since 9 years now and currently I have open four X

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-01-05 18:13:32, schrieb hose: > Just use the least sucky client out there (mutt). It has sane reply, > reply-to, and reply-to-list commands, is extremely fast, and can bend > to your will if needed, no matter how wrong you are. It's the vim of > the email world. I even know some Wi

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:27:44 -0800 Ken Teague wrote: > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > See, I just think you guys should stop using bad clients. ;) Kmail > > replies to the list (and only to the list) by default. (Which, actually, > > appears to be a violation on the relevant standards. :P)

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > You've got to be doing something wrong... Installed Thunderbird, installed Enigmail, downloaded reply-to-list, both versions, installed them, neither work. Can't mess than up Ron, even for me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

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2009-01-06 Thread Steve Lamb
(Apologies to Boyd, been a while since I replied to D-U, got out of the habit of reply-to-all and trim. ;) Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > See, I just think you guys should stop using bad clients. ;) Kmail replies > to the list (and only to the list) by default. (Which, actually, appears to

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/06/09 02:46, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Install the Reply To List add-on, v0.2.1 or v0.3.0, depending on whether you access IMAP or not. Works perfectly. For you... Still not working here. :P You've got to be doing something wrong... -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA

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2009-01-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > Install the Reply To List add-on, v0.2.1 or v0.3.0, depending on whether > you access IMAP or not. Works perfectly. For you... Still not working here. :P signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Ken Teague wrote: > Is Kmail available for Win32? I'm at work on my laptop and don't have > the luxury of Linux all day. http://windows.kde.org/ > I also stated in my previous post that the reply-to field was missing > from the SMTP header. I can manually add it from my MUA (as I did with > thi

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/05/09 17:27, Ken Teague wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: See, I just think you guys should stop using bad clients. ;) Kmail replies to the list (and only to the list) by default. (Which, actually, appears to be a violation on the relevant standards. :P) Is Kmail available for Wi

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-05 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:33:09 -0600 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: ... > Does it work outside of a terminal, yet? :) Seriously though, mutt *is* a > very high-quality MUA. Even if you normally prefer X applications, mutt > is worth a look. Although I have only dabbled with Mutt, from the li

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 05 January 2009, hose wrote about 'Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply': >On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Celejar wrote: >> On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:27:44 -0800 >> Ken Teague wrote: >>> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-05 Thread hose
On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:27:44 -0800 Ken Teague wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: See, I just think you guys should stop using bad clients. ;) Kmail replies to the list (and only to the list) by default. (Which, actually, appears to be a vi

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-05 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:27:44 -0800 Ken Teague wrote: > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > See, I just think you guys should stop using bad clients. ;) Kmail > > replies > > to the list (and only to the list) by default. (Which, actually, appears > > to > > be a violation on the relevant sta

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 2009 January 05 17:27:44 Ken Teague wrote: > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > See, I just think you guys should stop using bad clients. ;) Kmail > > replies to the list (and only to the list) by default. (Which, actually, > > appears to be a violation on the relevant standards. :P) >

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-05 Thread Ken Teague
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > See, I just think you guys should stop using bad clients. ;) Kmail replies > to the list (and only to the list) by default. (Which, actually, appears to > be a violation on the relevant standards. :P) Is Kmail available for Win32? I'm at work on my laptop and

Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply

2009-01-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 2009 January 05 16:20:14 Moderation Robot wrote: > From: Ken Teague <"kteague at pobox dot com"@giganews.com> > Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > I believe the (quite valid) suggestion to ditch Gmail is because it > > does not have a 'reply to list function'. Well, there are several > > oth

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2009-01-05 Thread Moderation Robot
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