Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-09 Thread Evan Parry
Jens D. Baumgartner writes: > On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 11:34:29AM -0800, Keith Beattie wrote: > > > Well, I disagree. Personally I dislike massively integrated > > applications like Outlook and Explorer. They are too big, too slow > > and too complicated (to use and maintain). And I'm convi

Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-09 Thread Jeff Katcher
"Person, Roderick" wrote: > > Hey All, > > Just venting. > > Recently I check out the Linux apps wish list web page! I though that it was > mighty funny that the software that most people want to see ported to Linux > is made by the big nasty Microsoft clan. Personally, I hate M$ and was glade

Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-09 Thread Matt Garman
On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 12:12:59PM -0800, Keith Beattie wrote: > I'm getting rather off topic for this thread, but I still think the > future of software engineering is in building components with > applications being the integrations of these components. Exactly > which form that will take, I'm n

Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-09 Thread Keith Beattie
Jens D. Baumgartner wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 11:34:29AM -0800, Keith Beattie wrote: > > > Well, I disagree. Personally I dislike massively integrated > > applications like Outlook and Explorer. They are too big, too slow > > and too complicated (to use and maintain). And I'm convinced

Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-09 Thread Jens D. Baumgartner
On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 11:34:29AM -0800, Keith Beattie wrote: > Well, I disagree. Personally I dislike massively integrated > applications like Outlook and Explorer. They are too big, too slow > and too complicated (to use and maintain). And I'm convinced that my [...] > Create small pro

Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 12:45:07AM +1100, Richard Lyon wrote: > I guess the 'real' truth is that most of the microsoft stuff is actually > quite good. With the latest versions of service paks installed things > are very slick on windows NT. "quite good"... mmmh. Certainly not for my needs, but my

RE: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-08 Thread Christian Lavoie
> Christian Lavoie wrote: > > > > Actually, I think more and more people are wanting Microsof-like > > applications, because the Microsoft philosophy has some good ideas, > > especially when you are a end-user. > [...] > > Let's take the Windows' IE and Office integration as an example. In the > >

Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-08 Thread Gary Singleton
Comments inline: ---Richard Lyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess the 'real' truth is that most of the > microsoft stuff is actually quite good. With the > latest versions of service paks installed things > are very slick on windows NT. The real truth is that Microsoft pushes products out be

Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-08 Thread James Pollard
Quoting Christian Lavoie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Hey All, > > > > Just venting. > > > > Recently I check out the Linux apps wish list web page! I though > > that it was > > mighty funny that the software that most people want to see > > ported to Linux > > is made by the big nasty Microsoft clan.

Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-08 Thread Keith Beattie
Christian Lavoie wrote: > > Actually, I think more and more people are wanting Microsof-like > applications, because the Microsoft philosophy has some good ideas, > especially when you are a end-user. [...] > Let's take the Windows' IE and Office integration as an example. In the > basic, it's a g

RE: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-08 Thread Person, Roderick
ur boat, it must be water" > -- > From: Richard Lyon[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 8:45 AM > To: Person, Roderick; debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Just My 2 Cents > > I guess the 'real' truth

Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-08 Thread pat
> I have debian and winnt-workstation running on two machines on my desk. > Sure at first glance it appears that linux is faster, but look at all > the services running on NT and what they do for me. If I install new > hardware on my winnt box at least I don't have to compile and link a ^^

Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-08 Thread Richard Lyon
I guess the 'real' truth is that most of the microsoft stuff is actually quite good. With the latest versions of service paks installed things are very slick on windows NT. I have debian and winnt-workstation running on two machines on my desk. Sure at first glance it appears that linux is faster,

re Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-08 Thread Kenneth Scharf
From: "Person, Roderick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey All, Just venting. Recently I check out the Linux apps wish list web page! I though that it was mighty funny that the software that most people want to see ported to Linux is made by the big nasty Microsoft clan. Personally, I hate M$ a

Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-08 Thread Mitch Blevins
Jameson Burt wrote: > I would often like to at least narrow the software selection from a long list. > I should never have dabbled with the flexible but arcane "mh" mailer or > several > other mailers. I would like to see the choices that the experts, the Debian > developers, make. Do they mostl

Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-08 Thread Jameson Burt
> I think the way to go as a community would to form a regroupment which would > define standards on how such suite of apps should behave and output, and let > the programmers do their job. Let's have a central brain which coordinates > everyone's effort in a single place, to get the most out of ou

RE: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-08 Thread Christian Lavoie
> Hey All, > > Just venting. > > Recently I check out the Linux apps wish list web page! I though > that it was > mighty funny that the software that most people want to see > ported to Linux > is made by the big nasty Microsoft clan. Personally, I hate M$ > and was glade > to find Linux. If it was

Re: Just My 2 Cents

1998-12-07 Thread Matt Garman
On Mon, Dec 07, 1998 at 06:00:24PM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote: > It seems to me that most Linux user feel the same way. I always read threads > on the evil M$ or how bad Windblows is etc! So can someone tell me why the > Hell everyone wants M$ apps ported to Linux - Doesn't that defeat the > pu