Re: [RESOLVED] -- Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-26 Thread Curt
On 2018-02-24, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I had used netinst to do a base command line only install followed by > doing "apt-get install fvwm". > > Didn't work. It needed "apt-get install xorg lightdm". It worked perfectly. -- “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.” -Oscar Wilde

[RESOLVED] -- Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/23/2018 05:46 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: History I run MATE, but to paraphrase a restaurant - "I want Debian MyWay" ;) It was suggested that I wanted what KDE calls "activities". It looked promising. I installed it. It suffers from featuritis. fvwm-crystal was also suggested. When installed

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 09:57:12AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > I just did "apt-get install xorg". > Now typing "startx" at command line does give me a fvwm screen. So fvwm is running already (more below) > However typing "fvwm" at command

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread Brian
On Fri 23 Feb 2018 at 09:57:12 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I just did "apt-get install xorg". > Now typing "startx" at command line does give me a fvwm screen. Fine. Now use the mouse (click) to get a menu. > However typing "fvwm" at command line gives > > [fvwm][main] <> can't open display

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread John Hasler
David Wright writes: > It doesn't mean that if you install a package designed to run on X > that apt will immediately install all the packages required for a > functional X system. Fvwm does not depend on an X server because it might be running on a headless machine while an X server is running on

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread Brian
On Fri 23 Feb 2018 at 16:56:19 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 09:12:04AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > To clarify I got a console command line (Whole screen is one window > > with no graphical ornaments !) > > Aha. As someone already said in this thread, it seem

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread David Wright
On Fri 23 Feb 2018 at 10:23:53 (-0600), David Wright wrote: > > #!/bin/sh > exec /usr/bin/fvwm >| $HOME/.fvwm-stdout 2>| $HOME/.fvwm-stderr & > WMPID=$! This line got wrapped; sorry. > xterm … > xterm … > swisswatch -title local -noshape > xconsole -name console -file

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread David Wright
On Fri 23 Feb 2018 at 09:57:12 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/23/2018 09:12 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >On 02/23/2018 05:46 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>History > >>I run MATE, but to paraphrase a restaurant - "I want Debian MyWay" ;) > >>It was suggested that I wanted what KDE calls "act

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread David Wright
On Fri 23 Feb 2018 at 09:12:04 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/23/2018 05:46 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >History > >I run MATE, but to paraphrase a restaurant - "I want Debian MyWay" ;) > >It was suggested that I wanted what KDE calls "activities". > >It looked promising. I installed it. It

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/23/2018 09:12 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/23/2018 05:46 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: History I run MATE, but to paraphrase a restaurant - "I want Debian MyWay" ;) It was suggested that I wanted what KDE calls "activities". It looked promising. I installed it. It suffers from featuritis. f

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 09:12:04AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > To clarify I got a console command line (Whole screen is one window > with no graphical ornaments !) Aha. As someone already said in this thread, it seems you have no X installe

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/23/2018 05:46 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: History I run MATE, but to paraphrase a restaurant - "I want Debian MyWay" ;) It was suggested that I wanted what KDE calls "activities". It looked promising. I installed it. It suffers from featuritis. fvwm-crystal was also suggested. When installed

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett writes: > I rebooted expecting a minimal fvwm display. I got a command line. I > found that though a "/home/richard/.fvwm" directory had been created, > it was empty. I couldn't find copies of what files should have been > there on initial first run. Only instructions/examples for a

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 08:43:42AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 02:21:11PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > tracker.debian.org tells me that there is a default configuration file in > > > > https://sources.debia

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 02:21:11PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > tracker.debian.org tells me that there is a default configuration file in > https://sources.debian.org/data/main/f/fvwm/1:2.6.7-3/default-config/config > which is the download view of > https://sources.debian.org/src/fvw

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, tracker.debian.org tells me that there is a default configuration file in https://sources.debian.org/data/main/f/fvwm/1:2.6.7-3/default-config/config which is the download view of https://sources.debian.org/src/fvwm/1:2.6.7-3/default-config/config/ It looks like a clean starting point for

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > fvwm-crystal was also suggested. When installed it was in some sense > "cleaner" but still too busy. Launched fvwm which had been installed by the > fvwm-crystal package. There's not much configuration in the fvwm package of Debian, indeed. > I rebooted expecting a mi

Re: Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 05:46:40AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I rebooted expecting a minimal fvwm display. I got a command line. > I found that though a "/home/richard/.fvwm" directory had been > created, it was empty. I couldn't find copies of wh

Problems with clean install of fvwm

2018-02-23 Thread Richard Owlett
History I run MATE, but to paraphrase a restaurant - "I want Debian MyWay" ;) It was suggested that I wanted what KDE calls "activities". It looked promising. I installed it. It suffers from featuritis. fvwm-crystal was also suggested. When installed it was in some sense "cleaner" but still too b