Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-09-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 September 2016 06:38:40 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 03 September 2016 05:24:51 Felix Miata wrote: > > That's because instead of replying promptly, you waited for > > Hurricane Hermine to flood my house. > > I'm so sorry Felix. Were you nearer I'd say "Let me know if there is >

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-09-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 03 September 2016 05:24:51 Felix Miata wrote: > That's because instead of replying promptly, you waited for Hurricane > Hermine to flood my house. I'm so sorry Felix. Were you nearer I'd say "Let me know if there is anything that I can do." Anyhow, thank you for everything that you

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-09-02 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Owlett composed on 2016-09-02 08:35 (UTC-0500): http://fm.no-ip.com/PC/install-doz-after.html That link does not respond. However it is available on Wayback Machine. That's because instead of replying promptly, you waited for Hurricane Hermine to flood my house. Server has been temp

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-09-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/5/2016 1:44 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 8/1/2016 10:37 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: *CAVEAT LECTOR* I _KNOW_ I'm doing an *ATYPICAL* install. I *REQUIRE* Grub to be its own partition. The Debian 8.4 installer at least recognizes that some users would desire Grub to be in its own partition. [m

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-07 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 06/08/2016 à 16:18, Felix Miata a écrit : Pascal Hambourg composed on 2016-08-06 12:01 (UTC+0200): (location of GRUB's core image) - or as a regular file in a filesystem appearing as /boot/grub/i386-pc/core.img (or /boot/grub/core.img with older versions of GRUB such as the one in Wheezy).

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-06 Thread Felix Miata
Pascal Hambourg composed on 2016-08-06 23:59 (UTC+0200): Felix Miata: Pascal Hambourg composed on 2016-08-06 12:01 (UTC+0200): I misread what you wrote. If I knew how to edit or delete a list posting as is typically possible in forums, I would. It shouldn't have been written, much less se

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-06 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 06/08/2016 à 16:18, Felix Miata a écrit : Pascal Hambourg composed on 2016-08-06 12:01 (UTC+0200): ... If the boot image is in a PBR, the BIOS won't load it directly It will if the PBR is on a primary partition on the same disk. On the same disk as what ? Do you mean that the BIOS can lo

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-06 Thread Felix Miata
Pascal Hambourg composed on 2016-08-06 12:01 (UTC+0200): ... If the boot image is in a PBR, the BIOS won't load it directly It will if the PBR is on a primary partition on the same disk. It's how all my systems boot if I'm not using IBM Boot Manager as the primary bootloader. ... - or as a

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/6/2016 5:01 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: [snip details of where GRUB files are which I'm going have to study closely] So, what did you mean exactly by "install GRUB on its own partition" ? I suspect my visualization of GRUB and the entire boot process is flawed. Some of my early reading ma

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-06 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 06/08/2016 à 12:01, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : The first chunk is the "boot image" and must be stored into a MBR (whole disk boot sector) or PBR (partition boot sector). As it must fit into a 512-sector size Oops. I meant 512-byte sector size.

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-06 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 01/08/2016 à 21:15, Joe a écrit : There are two chunks of storage for grub: Actually three, or even four. the files, stored in a normal filesystem and available under /boot, Actually /boot/grub. GRUB does not store anything directly in /boot. and the bootloader itself, which generally

[PRIVATE REPLY} Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-05 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/5/2016 3:03 PM, David Wright wrote: [snip] How about trying to do http://forums.justlinux.com/showthread.php?147959-How-to-install-and-boot-145-operating-systems-in-a-PC [snip] forums.justlinux.com has a display problem. As suggested I went to FAQ. I clicked on "Contact Us". Their 'bot fi

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-05 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/5/2016 3:03 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 13:44:54 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 8/1/2016 10:37 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: *CAVEAT LECTOR* I _KNOW_ I'm doing an *ATYPICAL* install. I *REQUIRE* Grub to be its own partition. The Debian 8.4 installer at least recognizes tha

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 13:44:54 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/1/2016 10:37 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >*CAVEAT LECTOR* > >I _KNOW_ I'm doing an *ATYPICAL* install. > >I *REQUIRE* Grub to be its own partition. > >The Debian 8.4 installer at least recognizes that some users > >would desire Gr

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-05 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/1/2016 10:37 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: *CAVEAT LECTOR* I _KNOW_ I'm doing an *ATYPICAL* install. I *REQUIRE* Grub to be its own partition. The Debian 8.4 installer at least recognizes that some users would desire Grub to be in its own partition. [massive SNIP] I've been thinking ;/ My orig

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-01 Thread Felix Miata
Joe composed on 2016-08-01 20:15 (UTC+0100): Installing the bootloader somewhere other than the MBR is useful if you dual-boot with Windows, And if you multiboot with >2. Every installation cannot own a single MBR. Better that none do, so that potential for conflict is entirely avoided[1]. W

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/1/2016 2:15 PM, Joe wrote: On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 13:06:16 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: If I'm successful that will change. My goal is to learn enough about *nix too have the detail control of Slackware or "Linux from Scratch" with the advantages of Debian standard repositories. If retireme

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-01 Thread Joe
On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 13:06:16 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > > If I'm successful that will change. > My goal is to learn enough about *nix too have the detail control > of Slackware or "Linux from Scratch" with the advantages of > Debian standard repositories. > > If retirement is not for learn

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-01 Thread David Wright
On Mon 01 Aug 2016 at 13:06:16 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/1/2016 12:01 PM, David Wright wrote: > >On Mon 01 Aug 2016 at 10:37:28 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > >>*CAVEAT LECTOR* > >>I _KNOW_ I'm doing an *ATYPICAL* install. > >>I *REQUIRE* Grub to be its own partition. > >>The Debian 8

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/1/2016 12:20 PM, Brian Flaherty wrote: On Monday, August 1, 2016 8:38 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: *CAVEAT LECTOR* I _KNOW_ I'm doing an *ATYPICAL* install. I *REQUIRE* Grub to be its own partition. The Debian 8.4 installer at least recognizes that some users would desire Grub to be in its

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/1/2016 12:01 PM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 01 Aug 2016 at 10:37:28 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: *CAVEAT LECTOR* I _KNOW_ I'm doing an *ATYPICAL* install. I *REQUIRE* Grub to be its own partition. The Debian 8.4 installer at least recognizes that some users would desire Grub to be in its

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-01 Thread David Wright
On Mon 01 Aug 2016 at 10:37:28 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > *CAVEAT LECTOR* > I _KNOW_ I'm doing an *ATYPICAL* install. > I *REQUIRE* Grub to be its own partition. > The Debian 8.4 installer at least recognizes that some users would > desire Grub to be in its own partition. > > "Debian GNU/Lin

Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
*CAVEAT LECTOR* I _KNOW_ I'm doing an *ATYPICAL* install. I *REQUIRE* Grub to be its own partition. The Debian 8.4 installer at least recognizes that some users would desire Grub to be in its own partition. "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/] ef