Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2013-01-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 15:13:52 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > The correct way to supply a preseed file with auto=true is (I think) to > > only use preseed/url= or url=. Now, is that glaringly obvious to you or > > anyone else from section B.2.3. or elsewhere in the Manual? > > The

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-29 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:00:02 +0100 Richard Owlett wrote: > >What is a SIG? > > "Special Interest Group" > Is it an Americanism? Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-27 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> Richard Owlett wrote: >> > Tom H wrote: >> >> Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> >>> What is a SIG? >> >> >> >> It's a Fedora-ism: special interest group. >> >> >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:SIGs >> > >> > Sorry. Term preda

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Richard Owlett wrote: > It seems to have been lost in the shuffle, but do NOT have internet > NOR high speed internet connectivity at home so all of my test > installs are being done with a purchased set of Debian 6.0.5 DVDs > with preseed.cfg on a USB stick. Sorry. In order to be able to help yo

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: >auto url=file://mnt/,/preseed.cfg > loaded by expanding file://mnt/,/preseed.cfg. >auto=true url=file://mnt/,/preseed.cfg I think there is a typo in the above. To perhaps save some grief for someone reading the archives later I believe all of the above "/,/" uses should have

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Press Down-Arrow to "Help". Observe the help message, "Display help > > screens; type 'menu' at the boot prompt to return to this menu." > > Press ENTER to select it. Press F3 to select "Boot methods for > > special ways of using this netboot image". Observe

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-22 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 15:47:44 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Press Down-Arrow to "Help". Observe the help message, "Display help > screens; type 'menu' at the boot prompt to return to this menu." > Press ENTER to select it. Press F3 to select "Boot methods for > special ways of using this netboot i

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Dec 2012 at 14:02:31 +, Brian wrote: > On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 17:22:34 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > where it is talking about "auto url=..." is definitely incorrect. > > Taking this and your other mail into account is persuading me back to > readopting my original view on the matt

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 17:22:34 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Brian wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > The preseed file needn't be on the network, Being present in an ISO and > > with url= pointing to it is sufficient. Or it could be on a USB stick. > > Ah, yes, I had forgotten about the file url synta

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Dec 2012 at 12:06:41 +, Brian wrote: > I'm adding to the command line with > > auto=true url=file:///mnt/preseed.cfg I'm having to adjust my mindset. :) That should be auto=true url=file:///mnt/./preseed.cfg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Richard Owlett
Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: The preseed file needn't be on the network, Being present in an ISO and with url= pointing to it is sufficient. Or it could be on a USB stick. Ah, yes, I had forgotten about the file url syntax. But present in the iso then doesn't *need* the ur

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 06:53:26AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >But the underlying problem is lack of manpower. How do you[1] expect to > >solve it without getting involved? > > > >[1] and I mean you personally, the Debian

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 15:47:44 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > > > How are you inserting the preseed data when booting "expert" mode? I > > > can only think of being able to do that one the command line. > > > > Is this question directed at Richard? > > I

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Brian wrote: > > > I think "auto" is a typo. It should be "auto=true". You are right! > > It is documented that "auto" is an alias for "auto-install/enable=true > > priority=critical". I don't think it is a typo. > > I have had a change of mind after thinkin

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > The preseed file needn't be on the network, Being present in an ISO and > with url= pointing to it is sufficient. Or it could be on a USB stick. Ah, yes, I had forgotten about the file url syntax. But present in the iso then doesn't *need* the url= to point to i

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 15:13:52 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > > I think "auto" is a typo. It should be "auto=true". > > It is documented that "auto" is an alias for "auto-install/enable=true > priority=critical". I don't think it is a typo. I have had a change of mind after thin

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 15:13:52 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > Here is what I focussed on when I started looking at the > > auto-install process: > > > > > The auto parameter is an alias for auto-install/enable and > > > setting it to true delays the locale and keyboard que

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > [I couldn't sort the attributions out when snipping. Sorry.] Things can get confusing! :-) > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > > > I just double checked by running a text mode expert install - that > > > > > screen never appears. > > Richard wrote this. I didn't understand what he was getti

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > You are preseeding language and keymap from the command line so auto(?) > or auto=true is not required because the first two questions concerned > get answers immediately on booting. Correct. Which is why in my case it is a little hard to observe experimentally

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Brian
[I couldn't sort the attributions out when snipping. Sorry.] On Mon 17 Dec 2012 at 22:24:11 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > > I just double checked by running a text mode expert install - that > > > > screen never appears. Richard wrote this. I didn't understand what he was getting at first time

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Brian
On Mon 17 Dec 2012 at 22:24:11 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > I have those preseeds on the kernel command line through a PXE network > boot. > > vga=788 initrd=debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz console-keymaps-at/keymap=us > locale=en_US interface=auto hostname=$name domain=$domain auto > url=http:

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > > Tom H wrote: > >> Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >>> What is a SIG? > >> > >> It's a Fedora-ism: special interest group. > >> > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:SIGs > > > > Sorry. Term predates Linus Torvalds let alone Fedora ;) > > IIRC I came across it

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 18 dec 12, 14:08:08, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 18 December 2012 12:12:01 Brad Rogers wrote: > > >True. But I suspected that I I was being gently chided for > > >assuming everybody had the same same background as I. > > > > I didn't get that impression. But hey, it's not my rep that on t

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 17 dec 12, 18:30:35, Richard Owlett wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >On Du, 16 dec 12, 06:53:26, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> > >>The response I had hoped for was on the lines of "there's a SIG for > >>documentation which you can contact at ...". > > > >What is a SIG? > > "Special Interest

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 14:36:49 Brad Rogers wrote: > >I did, I'm afraid!  After all, it is easy enough to look SIG up on > >acronymfinder and find out what it means.  Andrei knows this perfectly > > True, but even within context, it's sometimes tricky pinpointing the > right meaning.  Possibly

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:08:08 + Lisi Reisz wrote: Hello Lisi, >I did, I'm afraid! After all, it is easy enough to look SIG up on >acronymfinder and find out what it means. Andrei knows this perfectly True, but even within context, it's sometimes tricky pinpointing the right meaning. Poss

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 12:12:01 Brad Rogers wrote: > >True. But I suspected that I I was being gently chided for > >assuming everybody had the same same background as I. > > I didn't get that impression. But hey, it's not my rep that on the line, > potentially.   :-) I did, I'm afraid! After

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Andrei POPESCU >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> What is a SIG? >> >> It's a Fedora-ism: special interest group. >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:SIGs > > Sorry. Term predates Linus Torvalds

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 05:15:55 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, >True. But I suspected that I I was being gently chided for >assuming everybody had the same same background as I. I didn't get that impression. But hey, it's not my rep that on the line, potentially. :-) -- Regards

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Tom H wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 16 dec 12, 06:53:26, Richard Owlett wrote: The response I had hoped for was on the lines of "there's a SIG for documentation which you can contact at ...". What is a SIG? It's a Fedora-ism: special interest group.

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 16 dec 12, 06:53:26, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> The response I had hoped for was on the lines of "there's a SIG for >> documentation which you can contact at ...". > > What is a SIG? It's a Fedora-ism: special interest group. http

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:30:35 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, "Special Interest Group" Is it an Americanism? It's a TLA, or Three Letter Acronym. True. But I suspected that I I was being gently chided for assuming everybody had the same same background as I.

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:30:35 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, >"Special Interest Group" >Is it an Americanism? It's a TLA, or Three Letter Acronym. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" It's becoming an ob

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-17 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Sorry. Because you were having problems with this I assumed you were > > using Wheezy. Because in Squeeze this works fine. If you are having > > a problem in Squeeze then we need to dig deeper. Because it > > definitely works fine there. > > Is that "workin

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-17 Thread Richard Owlett
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 16 dec 12, 06:53:26, Richard Owlett wrote: The response I had hoped for was on the lines of "there's a SIG for documentation which you can contact at ...". What is a SIG? "Special Interest Group" Is it an Americanism? If one does not exist I've some ideas,

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 16 dec 12, 06:53:26, Richard Owlett wrote: > > The response I had hoped for was on the lines of "there's a SIG for > documentation which you can contact at ...". What is a SIG? > If one does not exist I've some ideas, but I hate reinventing the > wheel if it already exists. AFAIK (but

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-17 Thread Brian
On Sat 15 Dec 2012 at 00:14:00 +, Brian wrote: > Now cast your fishing net and *you* tell us what might be missing in > your preseed file. For those with exactly the same preseeding setup as Richard and having a the same problem (which may or may not be a bug in Squeeze), a solution could lie

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-16 Thread Richard Owlett
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 14 dec 12, 07:50:29, Richard Owlett wrote: If by "raising the issue" you mean do the proof-reading yourself and then report problems, by all means, just go ahead. Or, even better, you could submit patches. I see a bug report as treating an individual symptom rathe

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-15 Thread Brian
On Fri 14 Dec 2012 at 21:43:13 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > >Richard Owlett wrote: > > >>d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us > > >>d-i keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap select us > > > > > >In Wheezy they changed these to different strings. It cau

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 14 dec 12, 07:50:29, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >If by "raising the issue" you mean do the proof-reading yourself and > >then report problems, by all means, just go ahead. Or, even better, you > >could submit patches. > > I see a bug report as treating an individual symptom rather than > s

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 07:50:29AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I see a bug report as treating an individual symptom rather than > solving the underlying problem. So just leave it for someone else to suffer through as well? You could treat "the underlying problem." as a different bug, and of

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Richard Owlett wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >Richard Owlett wrote: > >>d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us > >>d-i keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap select us > > > >In Wheezy they changed these to different strings. It caught me too. > >See Bug#693493. In Wheezy instead of "console-keymaps-a

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Brian
On Fri 14 Dec 2012 at 22:15:44 +, Brian wrote: > The configuring the keyboard question is not shown when I use > >auto=true priority=critical file=/mnt/preseed.cfg I regretted writing this response almost immediately after sending it. Not that it is incorrect but is it almost as content

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Brian
On Fri 14 Dec 2012 at 05:40:25 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > >You fail to say which distribution you are using and which preseeding > >method is employed. > > See first line of my post. I saw it the first time. All it tells us is that you have read some Squeeze documentation.

Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 14 dec 12, 05:39:56, Richard Owlett wrote: I think I see a common thread in the preseed related problems I've been having. Who proofreads the Debian documentation? I suspect it tends to be the author {as should happen} and other Debian *EXPERTS* {which is a too narr

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Bob Proulx wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us d-i keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap select us In Wheezy they changed these to different strings. It caught me too. See Bug#693493. In Wheezy instead of "console-keymaps-at/keymap" use "keymap select us". d-

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 14 dec 12, 05:39:56, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I think I see a common thread in the preseed related problems I've > been having. > Who proofreads the Debian documentation? I suspect it tends to be > the author {as should happen} and other Debian *EXPERTS* {which is a > too narrow classifica

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Brian wrote: On Thu 13 Dec 2012 at 07:29:12 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: When I use it in my preseed.cfg I get an error message. ERROR MESSAGE TITLE --- Configuring keyboard-configuration ERROR MESSAGE TEXT --- Please select the layout matching the keyboard for this machine. I

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 13 dec 12, 07:29:12, Richard Owlett wrote: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/example-preseed.txt [among several other examples] in part gives # Keyboard selection. #d-i console-tools/archs select at d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us d-i keyboard-configur

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-13 Thread Bob Proulx
Richard Owlett wrote: > d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us > d-i keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap select us In Wheezy they changed these to different strings. It caught me too. See Bug#693493. In Wheezy instead of "console-keymaps-at/keymap" use "keymap select us". d-i keymap select us

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-13 Thread Brian
On Thu 13 Dec 2012 at 07:29:12 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > When I use it in my preseed.cfg I get an error message. > > ERROR MESSAGE TITLE --- > Configuring keyboard-configuration > ERROR MESSAGE TEXT --- > Please select the layout matching the keyboard for this > machine. > > I

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 13 dec 12, 07:29:12, Richard Owlett wrote: > http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/example-preseed.txt [among > several other examples] in part gives > > > # Keyboard selection. > #d-i console-tools/archs select at > d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us > d-i keyboard-configuration/xkb

Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-13 Thread Richard Owlett
http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/example-preseed.txt [among several other examples] in part gives # Keyboard selection. #d-i console-tools/archs select at d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us d-i keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap select us # Example for a different keyboard architectur