Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-25 Thread David Wright
On Wed 25 Nov 2020 at 17:56:27 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2020-11-25, David Wright wrote: > > > > There's a big difference between the requirements for your local > > storage when using POP compared with IMAP. When using POP in a > > conventional manner (transfer, and delete at the server end), you

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-25 Thread Curt
On 2020-11-25, David Wright wrote: > > There's a big difference between the requirements for your local > storage when using POP compared with IMAP. When using POP in a > conventional manner (transfer, and delete at the server end), you > need reliable local storage. And you also need reliable fil

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-25 Thread David Wright
>> The IMAP protocal and the backend storage have no connection. ↑↑↑ > > > > Well, they do in a way -- if you use IMAP from your ISP for example, you > > don't > > need local storage on your email device (not any of mbox, mai

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
n't use mbox. > > > > > > The IMAP protocal and the backend storage have no connection. > > I didn't think this thread was about the backend at all, but about > where to place the emails being fetched, and hence the protocol > to use. IMAP isn't like fetch

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-24 Thread David Wright
emails are placed at the moment of first arrival on the OP's system. > Well, they do in a way -- if you use IMAP from your ISP for example, you > don't > need local storage on your email device (not any of mbox, maildir, or > whatever). > > (I don't use IMAP (I u

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-24 Thread Curt
they do in a way -- if you use IMAP from your ISP for example, you > don't > need local storage on your email device (not any of mbox, maildir, or > whatever). > > (I don't use IMAP (I use POP3), but I assume that if I were using IMAP as > described, I could save e

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Celejar
. > > > > > > The IMAP protocal and the backend storage have no connection. > > > > Well, they do in a way -- if you use IMAP from your ISP for example, you > > don't > > need local storage on your email device (not any of mbox, maildir, or > >

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
n. > > Well, they do in a way -- if you use IMAP from your ISP for example, you > don't > need local storage on your email device (not any of mbox, maildir, or > whatever). > > (I don't use IMAP (I use POP3), but I assume that if I were using IMAP as > de

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Didar Hossain wrote: > Dovecot has "single instance attachment storage" (SIS) as well as its > own native mdbox binary format (multiple emails per file indexed > efficiently). > The SIS is a feature that I am really excited about since we have > multiple user receiveing the same email - it reall

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Didar Hossain
e no connection. > > Well, they do in a way -- if you use IMAP from your ISP for example, you > don't > need local storage on your email device (not any of mbox, maildir, or > whatever). > > (I don't use IMAP (I use POP3), but I assume that if I were using IMAP as

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread rhkramer
't need local storage on your email device (not any of mbox, maildir, or whatever). (I don't use IMAP (I use POP3), but I assume that if I were using IMAP as described, I could save emails on my local device, but I'm not clear on that mechanism / storage method.)

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Joe wrote: > That's why we have IMAP, which doesn't use mbox. The IMAP protocal and the backend storage have no connection. You can for example use mbox with Dovecot just fine. (Not that anyone would *want* to, but that is a different story.) Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Joe
>>> everybody is free. And surprisingly the OP recompiles the > >>> package. In this case it is enough to just point out the nonsense > >>> of the subject "Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3". > >> > >> Let's assume an

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Flo
ms so disorganised. I don't even try - there are all kinds of people out there - and everybody is free. And surprisingly the OP recompiles the package. In this case it is enough to just point out the nonsense of the subject "Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3". Let's assum

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-22 Thread David Wright
>> seems so disorganised. > > > > I don't even try - there are all kinds of people out there - and everybody > > is free. And surprisingly the OP recompiles the package. In this case it is > > enough to just point out the nonsense of the subject "Problem >

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Flo, > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 06:57:46PM +0100, Flo wrote: > > Let's assume an average message size of 20MB. Then 100 messages are > > enough to make it INBOX file that big. This doesn't necessarily mean > > that this is disorganized. > > The average size of mail I have

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Flo, On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 06:57:46PM +0100, Flo wrote: > Let's assume an average message size of 20MB. Then 100 messages are > enough to make it INBOX file that big. This doesn't necessarily mean > that this is disorganized. The average size of mail I have received in the last 2 months is 1

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-22 Thread deloptes
Flo wrote: > Let's assume an average message size of 20MB. Then 100 messages are > enough to make it INBOX file that big. This doesn't necessarily mean > that this is disorganized. No, it means exactly this, because when mbox was in developed and actively in use there was no message of 20MB in si

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-22 Thread Flo
inds of people out there - and everybody > is free. And surprisingly the OP recompiles the package. In this case it is > enough to just point out the nonsense of the subject "Problem > with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3". > > Let's assume an average message size o

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-21 Thread deloptes
e OP recompiles the package. In this case it is enough to just point out the nonsense of the subject "Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3".

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Sat 21 Nov 2020 at 08:55:41 (+0100), deloptes wrote: > Flo wrote: > > > I installed dovecot but it didn't really work. Actually only with one > > specific account, the one which produces this big mbox file. And I > > couldn't figure out the reason. > > > > So I recompiled popa3d and it seems t

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-20 Thread deloptes
Flo wrote: > I installed dovecot but it didn't really work. Actually only with one > specific account, the one which produces this big mbox file. And I > couldn't figure out the reason. > > So I recompiled popa3d and it seems to work now. Anyway - consider migrating from the mbox format to somet

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-20 Thread 황병희
#x27;t work anymore. > > Does anyone know about this issue? Any hints to solve it? I could try > a different pop3 server? > > Any help is appreciated. sorry man off-topic... so clever persons use Gmane for mailing lists. and personal emails get by Google Apps or Gmail that have very

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-20 Thread Flo
know about this issue? Any hints to solve it? I could try a different pop3 server? I have no experience with popa3d but if it supports Maildir instead of mbox format then you could start storing users' mails in Maildir format. Maildir's one file per message approach usually provides better p

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-20 Thread Flo
On 11/19/20 11:47 PM, Ulf Volmer wrote: On 19.11.20 22:42, Flo wrote: I am using Debian Buster, Thunderbird, Sendmail and popa3d to get emails. The mail files for each account are stored at /var/mail. No it has come to that point that such a file exceeded 2GB. And 'Get Messages' doesn't wor

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-19 Thread Ulf Volmer
On 19.11.20 22:42, Flo wrote: > I am using Debian Buster, Thunderbird, Sendmail and popa3d to get emails. > > The mail files for each account are stored at /var/mail. No it has come > to that point that such a file exceeded 2GB. And 'Get Messages' doesn't > work anymore. This limit is defined in

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-19 Thread Andy Smith
Any hints to solve it? I could try a > different pop3 server? I have no experience with popa3d but if it supports Maildir instead of mbox format then you could start storing users' mails in Maildir format. Maildir's one file per message approach usually provides better performance,

Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-19 Thread Flo
e? Any hints to solve it? I could try a different pop3 server? Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Flo

Re: Why IMAP instead of POP3 [was: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook]

2017-09-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 September 2017 11:23:10 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:59:01 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 14 September 2017 10:40:48 Frank wrote: > > > Op 14-09-17 om 14:15 schreef to...@tuxteam.de: > > > > I know, with pop3 you can th

Re: Why IMAP instead of POP3 [was: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook]

2017-09-14 Thread David Wright
On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:59:01 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 14 September 2017 10:40:48 Frank wrote: > > > Op 14-09-17 om 14:15 schreef to...@tuxteam.de: > > > I know, with pop3 you can theoretically l

Re: Why IMAP instead of POP3 [was: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook]

2017-09-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 September 2017 10:40:48 Frank wrote: > Op 14-09-17 om 14:15 schreef to...@tuxteam.de: > > I know, with pop3 you can theoretically leave your mail at the > > server, but... the protocol makes it very difficult to see that > > you don't download mails twice,

Re: Why IMAP instead of POP3 [was: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook]

2017-09-14 Thread Frank
Op 14-09-17 om 14:15 schreef to...@tuxteam.de: I know, with pop3 you can theoretically leave your mail at the server, but... the protocol makes it very difficult to see that you don't download mails twice, or many times. Not in my experience. What makes you think it's difficult

Why IMAP instead of POP3 [was: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook]

2017-09-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 07:38:57AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] > I'm sort of moving OT, but want to ask: presumably you think IMAP is > preferable to POP3--what makes you say that (in general)? POP3 is only useful if you pla

Re: POP3

2016-01-04 Thread David Wright
t of the wrong side of bed? Inserting 'was' is normal > practice when starting a sub thread. I'm not sure what my mood had to do with it. I wasn't commenting on how one uses "was" to start a new subthread (something I've often done here), but whether a discus

Re: POP3

2015-12-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 06:28:35PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > Of course I removed the "was": it wasn't in the subject line of the > post you were responding to. Did you get out of the wrong side of bed? Inserting 'was' is normal practice when starting a sub thread. -- "If you're not carefu

Re: OT Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-20 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015, Bob Holtzman wrote: When I had to put down my old guy and best friend "Num Nutz" I cried more than I did at my mother's funeralso I know the feeling. Yes. Some may want to complain that this exchange is OT, but I submit that this Christmas week, with the world seemin

OT Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-20 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 07:19:17PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Sat, 19 Dec 2015, Curt wrote: > > >My cat died and I don't want another because of the heartbreak I > >went through. > > I am so sorry for your loss, which very clearly was a *major* one. > Try to give yourself enough time to gri

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-19 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015, Curt wrote: My cat died and I don't want another because of the heartbreak I went through. I am so sorry for your loss, which very clearly was a *major* one. Try to give yourself enough time to grieve; there's no telling how long that will take. There's no FAQ for grief,

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-19 Thread Curt
On 2015-12-18, Ric Moore wrote: I just don't, for my use, like a lot of what IMAP does. > > I use POP. Nuff said. :) Ric And I don't give a shit what you use. I don't have a car and bought my first cell phone six months ago. My cat died and I don't want another because of the heartbrea

Re: POP3

2015-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
mber 2015 09:49:59 Brian wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Also, run 'fetchmail --version' for debugging info. > > > > > > > > > > The guts of my ~/.fetchmailrc are > > > > > > > > > > poll > > &

Re: POP3

2015-12-18 Thread David Wright
Also, run 'fetchmail --version' for debugging info. > > > > > > > > The guts of my ~/.fetchmailrc are > > > > > > > > poll > > > > protopop3 > > > > user > > > > password > > >

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2015 14:02:52 Martin Read wrote: > On 18/12/15 18:14, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Ok, I have constructed a recursive pull ~/.wgetrc, but all I get are > > syntax errors. The file: (which kmail cannit insert, so copy-paste) > > gene@coyote:~/Documents/dovecot-wiki$ cat ~/.wgetrc

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Joe
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:33:14 -0500 (EST) Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > A mailfile, as I understand it, is the whole thing merged into > > one file, with a blank line or something as a separator, and > > an index file containing the starting offset and re

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: A mailfile, as I understand it, is the whole thing merged into one file, with a blank line or something as a separator, and an index file containing the starting offset and read status of each message in the main file to speed up the search for new mai

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/18/2015 10:19 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 09:31:45 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 18 December 2015 05:32:01 Lisi Reisz wrote: Having just by implication been told by someone that only muggles, lusers and/or dinosaurs use POP3, how many others of us will admit to it

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Martin Read
On 18/12/15 18:14, Gene Heskett wrote: Ok, I have constructed a recursive pull ~/.wgetrc, but all I get are syntax errors. The file: (which kmail cannit insert, so copy-paste) gene@coyote:~/Documents/dovecot-wiki$ cat ~/.wgetrc -np --follow-ftp -r -l 20 -k Using "info wget" to read the wget us

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2015 12:23:25 Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 11:07:57 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 18 December 2015 10:19:46 Petter Adsen wrote: > > > If you want to try setting up a Dovecot server, there are lots of > > > good tutorials and other docs out there. I

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 11:07:57 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 18 December 2015 10:19:46 Petter Adsen wrote: > > If you want to try setting up a Dovecot server, there are lots of > > good tutorials and other docs out there. I can probably dig up > > links to the pages I used for setting up my

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 18 December 2015 16:07:57 Gene Heskett wrote: > And I was confused, I meant dovecot, not icedove, and whose magic crystal > ball issues these names anyway? :)  icedove is of course t-bird, without > the branding. Phew. Glad it wasn't me. I couldn't make sense of "Icedove", but there is

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2015 10:19:46 Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 09:31:45 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 18 December 2015 05:32:01 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > Having just by implication been told by someone that only muggles, > > > lusers an

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2015 10:19:46 Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 09:31:45 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 18 December 2015 05:32:01 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > Having just by implication been told by someone that only muggles, > > > lusers an

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2015 09:54:54 Bob Bernstein wrote: > Gene: I'm unfamiliar with the term "mailfile." Can you expand a > tad on that? Q'est-ce que? A mailfile, as I understand it, is the whole thing merged into one file, with a blank line or something as a separator, and an index file conta

Re: POP3

2015-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
t; > > > > > The guts of my ~/.fetchmailrc are > > > > > > poll > > > protopop3 > > > user > > > password > > > ssl > > > > > > 'fetchmail -c -v' for testing. > > > > Hav

Re: POP3

2015-12-18 Thread David Wright
On Fri 18 Dec 2015 at 10:32:01 (+), Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 18 December 2015 09:49:59 Brian wrote: > > > > > > > Also, run 'fetchmail --version' for debugging info. > > > > The guts of my ~/.fetchmailrc are > > > > poll >

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 09:31:45 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 18 December 2015 05:32:01 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Having just by implication been told by someone that only muggles, > > lusers and/or dinosaurs use POP3, how many others of us will admit > > to it? (For the

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Bob Bernstein
Gene: I'm unfamiliar with the term "mailfile." Can you expand a tad on that? Q'est-ce que? -- Bob Bernstein

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2015 07:13:42 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 07:57:37 -0300 > Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > Hello Renaud, > > >backwoods and using POP3 (and refusing systemd...) > > Using POP3 here, too. I don't need access 24/7 worldwide

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2015 05:32:01 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 18 December 2015 09:49:59 Brian wrote: > > > > > > > Also, run 'fetchmail --version' for debugging info. > > > > The guts of my ~/.fetchmailrc are > > > > poll >

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 07:57:37 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: Hello Renaud, >backwoods and using POP3 (and refusing systemd...) Using POP3 here, too. I don't need access 24/7 worldwide to all my emails. And frankly, leaving (some of my personal) emails on a server I have no control

Re: POP3

2015-12-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > [coming out of several POP3 users] I am carrying Carl Harris' "popclient" from computer to computer since the 1990s. It can even do POP2 if you find a server that cooperates. Occasionally i have to adapt it to the newest internet habits and threats. But that's onl

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
> > > The guts of my ~/.fetchmailrc are > > > > > > poll > > > protopop3 > > > user > > > password > > > ssl > > > > > > 'fetchmail -c -v' for testing. > > > > Having jus

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Joe
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:32:01 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 18 December 2015 09:49:59 Brian wrote: > > > > > > > Also, run 'fetchmail --version' for debugging info. > > > > The guts of my ~/.fetchmailrc are > > > > poll >

Re: POP3

2015-12-18 Thread Felix Miata
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI composed on 2015-12-18 07:57 (UTC-0300): > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:32:01 + Lisi Reisz wrote: >> Having just by implication been told by someone that only muggles, lusers >> and/or dinosaurs use POP3, how many others of us will admit to it? (For the

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Ron
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:32:01 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > Having just by implication been told by someone that only muggles, lusers > and/or dinosaurs use POP3, how many others of us will admit to it? (For the > avoidance of doubt, I use POP3.) I am also one of the unenlightened user

POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

2015-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 18 December 2015 09:49:59 Brian wrote: > > > > > > Also, run 'fetchmail --version' for debugging info. > > The guts of my ~/.fetchmailrc are > > poll > protopop3 > user > password > ssl > > '

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3 Big Progress

2015-07-21 Thread Martin G. McCormick
To all who have helped me so far, a huge thank you! I soon realized that the subject line of this message is incorrect since pop3 covers only the delivery task and I got that working a couple of weeks or so ago. The indescribably joyful experience of being able to successfully authenticate

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Martin G. McCormick (mar...@server1.shellworld.net): > Paul E Condon writes: > > I use msmtp, not exim, even though exim comes already installed by > > Debian. Msmtp has its own tiny config file which can be located at > > ~/.msmtprc You can put there whatever you need to satisfy you ISP a

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-17 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Paul E Condon writes: > I use msmtp, not exim, even though exim comes already installed by > Debian. Msmtp has its own tiny config file which can be located at > ~/.msmtprc You can put there whatever you need to satisfy you ISP and > have no fear of exim mucking about with it. Of course, don't rem

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-14 Thread Martin G. McCormick
David Wright writes: A number of very good suggestions > The other thing you could try is a handcrafted email, which takes > about 5 minutes, by typing the following into a bash prompt: > > > $ echo -e -n '\0marti...@suddenlink.net\0SECRET' | base64 > aBase64stringIsEmitted= > $ openssl

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-14 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Paul E Condon writes: > I use msmtp, not exim, even though exim comes already installed by > Debian. Msmtp has its own tiny config file which can be located at > ~/.msmtprc You can put there whatever you need to satisfy you ISP and > have no fear of exim mucking about with it. Of course, don't rem

Gloss on the example of sending authenticated email, was Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-12 Thread David Wright
I believe in learning by doing, so I posted an example that one can actually do. However, private emails show that it's caused a little confusion. To make it as easy as I could, I wrote the example using the information posted by the OP, and using the OP's own placeholder, SECRET, as the password.

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread David Wright
Quoting David Wright (deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk): > Quoting Martin G. McCormick (mar...@server1.shellworld.net): > > The mainlog file displays the error that > > smtp.suddenlink.net is reporting > > > > 2015-07-11 06:29:26 1ZDsyD-0001Rm-PO ** mar...@shellworld.net R=smarthost > > T=remote_smtp_sma

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150708_2203-0500, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > I am trying to get a debian squeeze system to pull mail > from my cable provider's pop3 server. It appears they are not > doing anything really out of the ordinary but I obviously have > something set wrong. > >

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread David Wright
for me on the local system is martin. The > user ID I registered on the smarthost was martin.m since martin > without anything else already belongs to another customer. If I > hope to send mail through smtp.suddenlink.net, it must see > marti...@suddenlink.net plus the password also u

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread Curt
On 2015-07-11, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > > > The smarthost sees mar...@suddenlink.net and what it should see > in the From: line is marti...@suddenlink.net > Here are all the non-comments from update-exim4.conf.conf > Cannot this be defined in /etc/email-addresses? mar...@suddenlink.net: mart

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread Brian
omer. If I > hope to send mail through smtp.suddenlink.net, it must see > marti...@suddenlink.net plus the password also used to retrieve > pop3 mail and the retrieval does work. Your username on the system has nothing to do with the login username (marti...@suddenlink.net) and password fo

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote: If I hope to send mail through smtp.suddenlink.net, it must see marti...@suddenlink.net plus the password also used to retrieve pop3 mail and the retrieval does work. Does your MUA set "From:" to marti...@suddenlink.net, and al

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015, David Wright wrote: dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587' Syntax is correct. I've not tried that port. Must do so sometime. I think we're learning here in this thread to avoid generalizations, but 587 is known as the "submit" port. I have had good luck with it. Th

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread Martin G. McCormick
to another customer. If I hope to send mail through smtp.suddenlink.net, it must see marti...@suddenlink.net plus the password also used to retrieve pop3 mail and the retrieval does work. > Do you mean the From: line in your email header? What are you typing > in (or what is your mail

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-10 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bob Bernstein (poo...@ruptured-duck.com): > Maybe it's me; I'm not as spry as I used to be, but I am having > difficulty following you. Ditto > On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > > >dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587' > > That looks fine to me, if the syntax for speci

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-10 Thread David Wright
Quoting Martin G. McCormick (mar...@server1.shellworld.net): > Bob Bernstein writes: > > what do you put in exim's config as the name of your smarthost? > > dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587' > > I have figured out the first thing that is wrong but am > not sure how to fix it. When reg

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-10 Thread Bob Bernstein
Maybe it's me; I'm not as spry as I used to be, but I am having difficulty following you. On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote: dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587' That looks fine to me, if the syntax for specifying a port is correct for exim (I simply don't know one way or t

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-10 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Bob Bernstein writes: > what do you put in exim's config as the name of your smarthost? dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587' I have figured out the first thing that is wrong but am not sure how to fix it. When registering a user ID on Suddenlink's email gateway, I had to pick a slightl

Outgoing mail, was Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-10 Thread David Wright
Quoting Martin G. McCormick (mar...@server1.shellworld.net): > Are there flags I can send to exim4 to see what the > message looks like which will probably tell me which headers are > wrong? This will make it possible to go through exim4-config > once again to see what I set wrong since the smtp s

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-10 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote: The job now is to get the out-bound authentication to work to the smtp server. what do you put in exim's config as the name of your smarthost? -- I am not a loony. Why should I be tarred with the epithet 'loony' merely because I have a pet

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-10 Thread Martin G. McCormick
The job now is to get the out-bound authentication to work to the smtp server. One should use dpkg-configure exim4-config to set exim to use a smarthost for out-bound messages and rely on fetchmail for the incoming mail. Most of this is relatively easy and straight-forward except for one sm

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 9 Jul 2015, John D. Hendrickson wrote: but ALL DAMN DAY every day it got IP attacks purportedly from china. It's of course still like that out there, ALL DAMN DAY, the Wild West, Main St., Dodge City, only it's mostly (I think) SSH brute force attempts. I show skeptical friends my l

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 09 July 2015 16:11:21 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 08:28:36AM -0500, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > > Lisi Reisz writes: > > > As someone else has pointed out, it looks as though your username is > > > wrong. > > > Most POP3 mail

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 08:28:36AM -0500, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > Lisi Reisz writes: > > As someone else has pointed out, it looks as though your username is > > wrong. > > Most POP3 mailhosts require the full email address, with the @domain bit. > > > > L

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 9 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote: Lisi Reisz writes: As someone else has pointed out, it looks as though your username is wrong. I don't know whether to feel stupid or joyful. You get to feel both at the same time. Enjoy! -- "No matter how big the problem is, you can always

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Lisi Reisz writes: > As someone else has pointed out, it looks as though your username is > wrong. > Most POP3 mailhosts require the full email address, with the @domain bit. > > Lisi This one is no exception. Thank you!! I don't know how many times I have read and re-re

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
> defaults: > mda '/usr/bin/procmail' > antispam -1 > batchlimit 0 > > #server settings > #poll suddenlink.net with protocol pop3 > poll pop.suddenlink.net with proto POP3 > # set username > user 'martin.m' > password 'SECRET' > > E

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Martin G. McCormick
part is the password. #./fetchmailrc for martin # This file must be chmod 0600, owner fetchmail # set polling time (10 minutes) # set daemon 600 set no bouncemail defaults: mda '/usr/bin/procmail' antispam -1 batchlimit 0 #server settings #poll suddenlink.net with

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-08 Thread Memnon Anon
uddenlink.com/Internet/Pages/EmailandNewsServerNames.aspx : "Note:Username: your full email address, including the @domain.net at the end (i.e. @suddenlink.net)" > fetchmail: 6.3.18 querying pop.suddenlink.net (protocol POP3) at Wed Jul 8 > 21:23:25 2015: poll started > Trying to connect to 20

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-08 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote: I am trying to get a debian squeeze system to pull mail from my cable provider's pop3 server. Is there a special reason you do not post your .fetchmailrc file? Or, the output of 'fetchmail --version'? And, you have given one

Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-08 Thread Martin G. McCormick
I am trying to get a debian squeeze system to pull mail from my cable provider's pop3 server. It appears they are not doing anything really out of the ordinary but I obviously have something set wrong. Here is a short snippet from their instructions for using pop: Inc

Re: Mail and POP3

2015-06-30 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Stuart Longland writes: > I've done this before with numerous distributions in the past. > > Basically you set up fetchmail to do the mail collection, and I think by > default it tries to use the local delivery agents to deliver mail to > local users. So you set it up as a daemon to collect mail

Re: Mail and POP3

2015-06-30 Thread mett
On 2015年6月30日 12:10:50 JST, Stuart Longland wrote: >On 30/06/15 11:44, Martin G. McCormick wrote: >> I found an example for debian-etch which used fetchmail. >> Is that still the case for squeeze and newer debian releases? >> >> Do I need to leave exim4 alone as it appears that >> fet

Re: Mail and POP3

2015-06-29 Thread Stuart Longland
On 30/06/15 11:44, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > I found an example for debian-etch which used fetchmail. > Is that still the case for squeeze and newer debian releases? > > Do I need to leave exim4 alone as it appears that > fetchmail does all the moving? I've done this before with nu

Mail and POP3

2015-06-29 Thread Martin G. McCormick
This system runs debian squeeze for now and I want to make it use our internet provider's POP3 mail server and send out-bound mail through the provider's smtp server. In the past, I have used similar systems connected to the internet so I simply configured exim4 accor

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