Re: PDF on debian

Dan Ritter writes: > Apart from Windows-derived GDI printers, the majority of laser > and inkjet printers have a PostScript interpreter built in, even > if its primary use is in interpreting PDF files. I think that's probably outdated info too. My cheapie Epson XP-3100 supports some bitmap forma

Re: PDF on debian

On 13/3/23 08:13, Brian wrote: The processing chain in cups generated a raster bitmap image for me to format and deliver to the printer. I didn't dig deep but I suspect the previous stages involved postscript before raster conversion rather than directly from a pdf stage. Suspicions don't qu

Re: PDF on debian

On Mon 13 Mar 2023 at 04:25:12 +0800, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > > On 13/3/23 03:38, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > Nowadays PDF is what matters: it's the standard format for driverless > > printing (along with a mix of JPEG, PWG raster, or PCLm depending on > > which driverless printing standard you

Re: PDF on debian

On 13/3/23 03:38, Stefan Monnier wrote: Nowadays PDF is what matters: it's the standard format for driverless printing (along with a mix of JPEG, PWG raster, or PCLm depending on which driverless printing standard you're talking about). Admittedly, standards like IPP Everywhere require suppor

Re: PDF on debian

>> However, the cost of implementation was high; computers output raw >> PS code that would be interpreted by the printer into a raster image >> at the printer's natural resolution. This required high performance >> microprocessors and ample memory. The LaserWriter used a 12 MHz >> Motorola 68

Re: PDF on debian

On Sun 12 Mar 2023 at 16:52:37 -, Curt wrote: > On 2023-03-12, Dan Ritter wrote: > >> > > >> > Many (most?) printers do not understand PostScript. The > >> > printing system itself is based on processing PDFs. > >> > > >> > >> Oh. > >> Times have changed! > >> I thought it was the other wa

Re: PDF on debian

On Sun 12 Mar 2023 at 11:50:15 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Yassine Chaouche wrote: > > Le 3/12/23 à 14:18, Brian a écrit : > > > On Sun 12 Mar 2023 at 10:45:02 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > > > > > > > Le 3/9/23 à 15:33, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : > > > > > it is strange that the choice was to

Re: PDF on debian

Curt wrote: > On 2023-03-12, Dan Ritter wrote: > >> > > >> > Many (most?) printers do not understand PostScript. The > >> > printing system itself is based on processing PDFs. > >> > > >> > >> Oh. > >> Times have changed! > >> I thought it was the other way around. > > > > You are correct, Yas

Re: PDF on debian

On 2023-03-12, Dan Ritter wrote: >> > >> > Many (most?) printers do not understand PostScript. The >> > printing system itself is based on processing PDFs. >> > >> >> Oh. >> Times have changed! >> I thought it was the other way around. > > You are correct, Yassine. > > PostScript is an interpre

Re: PDF on debian

Yassine Chaouche wrote: > Le 3/12/23 à 14:18, Brian a écrit : > > On Sun 12 Mar 2023 at 10:45:02 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > > > > > Le 3/9/23 à 15:33, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : > > > > it is strange that the choice was to generate > > > > PostScript and not PDF. > > > > > > Isn't postscrip

Re: PDF on debian

Le 3/12/23 à 14:18, Brian a écrit : On Sun 12 Mar 2023 at 10:45:02 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: Le 3/9/23 à 15:33, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : it is strange that the choice was to generate PostScript and not PDF. Isn't postscript what printers read? Many (most?) printers do not understand

Re: PDF on debian

Le 3/9/23 à 15:33, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : it is strange that the choice was to generate PostScript and not PDF. Isn't postscript what printers read? Best, -- yassine -- sysadm +213-779 06 06 23 http://about.me/ychaouche Looking for side gigs.

Re: PDF on debian

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 10:21:55PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 09/03/2023 21:29, tomas wrote: > > TeX is perfectly fine as a PDF backend. Especially if you go for the > > more "modern" variants, like LuaTeX, which grok UTF-8 natively. > > I am curious if you can provide preamble with font confi

Re: PDF on debian

On 09/03/2023 21:29, tomas wrote: TeX is perfectly fine as a PDF backend. Especially if you go for the more "modern" variants, like LuaTeX, which grok UTF-8 natively. I am curious if you can provide preamble with font configuration working for most of users for documents including non-latin sc

Re: Excel Spreadsheet to PDF (was: Re: PDF on debian)

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:42 PM Charles Curley wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 08:50:08 +0800 > Corey Hickman wrote: > > > If I want to convert some excel files to PDF, what's the suggested > > way? I know I can program with java to implement that, but if there > > are existing command-line soluti

Excel Spreadsheet to PDF (was: Re: PDF on debian)

On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 08:50:08 +0800 Corey Hickman wrote: > If I want to convert some excel files to PDF, what's the suggested > way? I know I can program with java to implement that, but if there > are existing command-line solutions I would like to try them. This really should have been a new em

Re: PDF on debian

On 2023-03-10 08:50:08 +0800, Corey Hickman wrote: > If I want to convert some excel files to PDF, what's the suggested way? I > know I can program with java to implement that, but if there are existing > command-line solutions I would like to try them. I've just tried on some Excel file: unoconv

Re: PDF on debian

On 2023-03-09 17:58:37 +, Brian wrote: > That would be a big drawback for a printing filter. > > CHARSET=utf-8 /usr/lib/cups/filter/texttopdf 1 1 1 1 1 UTF-8-demo.txt > >out.pdf The only good thing is that box drawing is fine (while the other converters don't work well for that). However, t

Re: PDF on debian

On 2023-03-09 19:24:20 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > If everything else fails, read the instructions [1]. > > --pdf-engine=PROGRAM > > Use the specified engine when producing PDF output. Valid values > are pdflatex, lualatex, xelatex, latexmk, tectonic, wkhtmltopdf, > weasyprint, p

Re: PDF on debian

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 2:15 AM Linux-Fan wrote: > Corey Hickman writes: > > > Hello, > > > > What's the suggested PDF generator in Debian (without desktop)? > > And is there a VIM plugin for that? > > For cases where I care little about font or formatting, I use VIM's > integrated hardcopy: > >

Re: PDF on debian

On Thu 09 Mar 2023 at 18:36:26 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-03-09 18:07:24 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > > Le 09/03/2023 à 16:11, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : > > > > >libreoffice --headless --convert-to pdf file.txt > > > > > > produces a PDF of better quality (fewer spacing issues)

Re: PDF on debian

On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 05:47:02PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-03-09 17:38:54 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > Vincent Lefevre (12023-03-09): > > > produces a PDF of better quality (fewer spacing issues). > > > > If you want a PDF of better quality, use a workflow that includes TeX. >

Re: PDF on debian

Corey Hickman writes: Hello, What's the suggested PDF generator in Debian (without desktop)? And is there a VIM plugin for that? For cases where I care little about font or formatting, I use VIM's integrated hardcopy: :ha > /tmp/print.ps :!ps2pdf /tmp/print.ps /tmp/print.p

Re: PDF on debian

On Thu 09 Mar 2023 at 17:35:41 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-03-09 15:13:21 +, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 09 Mar 2023 at 15:01:00 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > > On 2023-03-09 13:42:22 +, Brian wrote: > > > > For a searchable PDF, I would use > > > > > > > > :execute '!/

Re: PDF on debian

On 2023-03-09 18:07:24 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 09/03/2023 à 16:11, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : > > >libreoffice --headless --convert-to pdf file.txt > > > > produces a PDF of better quality (fewer spacing issues). > [...] > > Hello, > > I do not use it myself so I don't know it well

Re: PDF on debian

* On 2023 09 Mar 04:41 -0600, Corey Hickman wrote: > Hello, > > What's the suggested PDF generator in Debian (without desktop)? > And is there a VIM plugin for that? If you really want to be "old school" there is roff handled by Groff in Debian (most man pages are written in roff using the "man"

Re: PDF on debian

Le 09/03/2023 à 16:11, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : libreoffice --headless --convert-to pdf file.txt produces a PDF of better quality (fewer spacing issues). [...] Hello, I do not use it myself so I don't know it well but unoconv seems to be a headless Libreoffice converter with the ability

Re: PDF on debian

On 2023-03-09 17:38:54 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Vincent Lefevre (12023-03-09): > > produces a PDF of better quality (fewer spacing issues). > > If you want a PDF of better quality, use a workflow that includes TeX. Not really. This can be better, but this can also be much worse, in particul

Re: PDF on debian

Vincent Lefevre (12023-03-09): > produces a PDF of better quality (fewer spacing issues). If you want a PDF of better quality, use a workflow that includes TeX. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: PDF on debian

On 2023-03-09 15:13:21 +, Brian wrote: > On Thu 09 Mar 2023 at 15:01:00 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-03-09 13:42:22 +, Brian wrote: > > > For a searchable PDF, I would use > > > > > > :execute '!/usr/lib/cups/filter/texttopdf 1 1 1 1 1 % > out.pdf' > > > > > > cups-filte

Re: PDF on debian

Le 9 mars 2023 Corey Hickman a écrit : > I always compose documents in debian via VIM. so if there is a PDF plugin > for VIM that would be great. There is a VimTeX plugin. You compose a LaTeX file and compile PDF with pdflatex/lualatex. https://github.com/lervag/vimtex

Re: PDF on debian

On 09/03/2023 22:11, Vincent Lefevre wrote: libreoffice --headless --convert-to pdf file.txt produces a PDF of better quality (fewer spacing issues). I was assuming something like markdown/reStructuredText/asciidoc/etc. instead of plain text. As the last resort :TOhtml vim command t

Re: PDF on debian

On Thu 09 Mar 2023 at 15:29:51 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 01:42:22PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 09 Mar 2023 at 12:43:51 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > There are other (simpler) options, look for text2pdf/text2ps. Personally, > > > I go the (La)

Re: PDF on debian

On Thu 09 Mar 2023 at 15:11:05 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Vincent Lefevre (12023-03-09): > > But it generates a letter page size instead of using /etc/papersize. > > And apparently that is not its only flaw, a quick test had it just skip > non-ascii characters. A possible solution: :execu

Re: PDF on debian

On Thu 09 Mar 2023 at 15:01:00 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-03-09 13:42:22 +, Brian wrote: > > For a searchable PDF, I would use > > > > :execute '!/usr/lib/cups/filter/texttopdf 1 1 1 1 1 % > out.pdf' > > > > cups-filters needs to be on the system. > > But it generates a lette

Re: PDF on debian

On 2023-03-09 15:55:13 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-03-09 21:42:24 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > If you use some markup language that can be converted to HTML then > > there is an alternative to LaTeX workflow: > > > > chromium --headless --disable-gpu --print-to-pdf=/tmp/test.pdf > > f

Re: PDF on debian

On 2023-03-09 21:42:24 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 09/03/2023 17:32, Corey Hickman wrote: > > > > What's the suggested PDF generator in Debian (without desktop)? > > And is there a VIM plugin for that? > > If you use some markup language that can be converted to HTML then there is > an alterna

Re: PDF on debian

On 2023-03-09 15:29:51 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > TeX is perfectly fine as a PDF backend. Especially if you go for the > more "modern" variants, like LuaTeX, which grok UTF-8 natively. Yes, but has anyone written a nice wrapper that fully supports Unicode (selecting the right fonts...)? I k

Re: PDF on debian

On 09/03/2023 17:32, Corey Hickman wrote: What's the suggested PDF generator in Debian (without desktop)? And is there a VIM plugin for that? If you use some markup language that can be converted to HTML then there is an alternative to LaTeX workflow: chromium --headless --disable-gpu --pri

Re: PDF on debian

Vincent Lefevre (12023-03-09): > Until now, I've been using a script that does > > paps $opt | ps2pdf - $@[-1]:t.pdf > > with some options. But due to the use of PostScript as an intermediate > file, the PDF has no text part (it is not searchable, etc.). It is not due to the use of PostScript,

Re: PDF on debian

On 2023-03-09 15:12:17 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > Le 3/9/23 à 12:43, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > look for text2pdf/text2ps. > It's strange that we have a2ps and ps2pdf but not a2pdf. a2ps is old and does not support Unicode. AFAIK, paps is suggested as a replacement, but it is strange tha

Re: PDF on debian

On 2023-03-09 15:11:05 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Vincent Lefevre (12023-03-09): > > But it generates a letter page size instead of using /etc/papersize. > > And apparently that is not its only flaw, a quick test had it just skip > non-ascii characters. > > I wish somebody would make a good c

Re: PDF on debian

On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 01:42:22PM +, Brian wrote: > On Thu 09 Mar 2023 at 12:43:51 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > There are other (simpler) options, look for text2pdf/text2ps. Personally, > > I go the (La)TeX way. > > For a searchable PDF, I would use What do you mean by "searcha

Re: PDF on debian

Yassine Chaouche (12023-03-09): > It's strange that we have a2ps and ps2pdf but not a2pdf. a2ps dates back from when PDF was a crappy format where you either had to use proprietary Acrobat Reader or Libre readers unable to show most files properly. I mean, its web page has the HTML tags in all ca

Re: PDF on debian

Le 3/9/23 à 12:43, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : look for text2pdf/text2ps. It's strange that we have a2ps and ps2pdf but not a2pdf. Best, -- yassine -- sysadm +213-779 06 06 23 http://about.me/ychaouche Looking for side gigs.

Re: PDF on debian

Vincent Lefevre (12023-03-09): > But it generates a letter page size instead of using /etc/papersize. And apparently that is not its only flaw, a quick test had it just skip non-ascii characters. I wish somebody would make a good command-line front-end for Pango + Cairo. Regards, -- Nicolas

Re: PDF on debian

On 2023-03-09 13:42:22 +, Brian wrote: > For a searchable PDF, I would use > > :execute '!/usr/lib/cups/filter/texttopdf 1 1 1 1 1 % > out.pdf' > > cups-filters needs to be on the system. But it generates a letter page size instead of using /etc/papersize. -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web:

Re: PDF on debian

On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 19:03:23 +0800 Corey Hickman wrote: > I always compose documents in debian via VIM. so if there is a PDF > plugin for VIM that would be great. Not a plugin for VIM, but if you run CUPS look into the debian package printer-driver-cups-pdf. -- Does anybody read signatures any

Re: PDF on debian

On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 12:10:39PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > Le 09/03/2023 à 12:03, Corey Hickman a écrit : > > I always compose documents in debian via VIM. so if there is a PDF > > plugin for VIM that would be great. > > > > Thanks > > Not a Vim plugin, but I usually compose documents in mark

Re: PDF on debian

Le 09/03/2023 à 12:03, Corey Hickman a écrit : I always compose documents in debian via VIM. so if there is a PDF plugin for VIM that would be great. Thanks Not a Vim plugin, but I usually compose documents in markdown in aneditor (be it vim or emacs) then generate a pdf from the markdown wi

Re: PDF on debian

I always compose documents in debian via VIM. so if there is a PDF plugin for VIM that would be great. Thanks On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:01 PM Nicolas George wrote: > Corey Hickman (12023-03-09): > > What's the suggested PDF generator in Debian (without desktop)? > > There are many things capable

Re: PDF on debian

Corey Hickman (12023-03-09): > What's the suggested PDF generator in Debian (without desktop)? There are many things capable of generating PDF in Debian. What do you want to generate your PDF *from*? Regards, -- Nicolas George

PDF on debian

Hello, What's the suggested PDF generator in Debian (without desktop)? And is there a VIM plugin for that? Thanks