Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast! (solution... sort of)

1999-11-19 Thread Peter Arien
Here's a solution to the netscape bus error problems: http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html I had _all_ the problems several people on the debian-user list mentioned last month. I'm trying to follow the latest potato releases. Even got communicator 4.7 installed from there - it's not

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-27 Thread Carlos Carvalho
I use communicator 4.5 here with the latest glibc from unstable. It's a multi-user machine. It very often goes into an infinite loop eating all possible cpu. The only way to control netscrape is to set a time limit of 3min on it...

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-27 Thread Pann McCuaig
I'll give you credit for chasing this thing! I've got only one further contribution: On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 23:40, Daniel Barclay wrote: [snip!] > Oh yeah, another thing: In non-Java 90% CPU mode, I could quit, > but the netscape process would keep running, using 90% CPU. > I didn't seem to be

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-27 Thread Daniel Barclay
> From: Pann McCuaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 16:17, Daniel Barclay wrote: ... > > Please check this one for me (I don't see how this can be anything other > > than a Netscape bug, but if it is something else, I'd like to know): ... > > D

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread Daniel Haude
On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, jack wrote: > It crashes Netscape (Navigator) on my machine. There's nothing to > protect. Everybody knows netscape sucks for now. > However, fact is fact. Haven't had netscape trouble under Linux yet (I don't use it much), but on an IRIX 6.4 system it dumps core the insta

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread jack
> > > Please check this one for me (I don't see how this can be anything other > > > than a Netscape bug, but if it is something else, I'd like to know): > > > > > > On any Unix (X11) version of Communicator: > > Alas, I use only Navigator, not the whole Communicator package. > > > - - open the boo

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread Art Lemasters
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 12:13:01AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > I use Communicator, not just Navigator; perhaps that's the clue. > The test that Daniel suggested crashed my Netscape. I've tried > running with and without Java/Javascript. I can expect Netscape > to crash at least once every time I sit

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread Kent West
Pann McCuaig wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 16:17, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > You might not be using Netscape extensively enough to trigger the bugs. > > > > Maybe usage pattern differences are something to explore. > > > > Do you (and others): > > - - have Java enabled? > Yup. > > - - have Jav

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread Brad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Pann McCuaig wrote: > On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 16:17, Daniel Barclay wrote: [[[snip]]] > > - - open a lot of windows using "open in new window" (middle mouse button)? > Nope. > [[[snip]]] > > How many Netscape windows is it useful to have o

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 16:17, Daniel Barclay wrote: > You might not be using Netscape extensively enough to trigger the bugs. > > Maybe usage pattern differences are something to explore. > > Do you (and others): > - - have Java enabled? Yup. > - - have Javascript enabled? Yup. > - - typically

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread Daniel Barclay
> From: Pann McCuaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 21:28, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > > > No, no, no. Netscape can be just as horribly unstable on glibc 2.0 > > systems. I know. I suffer from it every day. > > I hate to rain on your parade, but LOTS of people run Netscape 4

Correction: Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-23 Thread Art Lemasters
On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 11:17:00PM -0600, Art Lemasters wrote: > If you want to install Communicator 4.7, do it by installing > the packages via dselect (or apt). Before you start it in any > account on your machine, though, mv your bookmarks, rm -r > /home/yourusername/.netscape, and reinst

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-23 Thread Kent West
Brad wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Pann McCuaig wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 21:28, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > > > > > > From: Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >if you are running a system > > > > with libc5 or glibc 2.0 you are fine and won't

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-23 Thread Brad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Pann McCuaig wrote: > On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 21:28, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > > > > From: Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >if you are running a system > > > with libc5 or glibc 2.0 you are fine and won't have any problems with > > > net

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-23 Thread Art Lemasters
If you want to install Communicator 4.7, do it by installing the packages via dselect (or apt). Before you start it in any account on your machine, though, mv your bookmarks, rm -r /home/yourusername/.netscape, and reinstall your bookmarks.html. Maybe that will help. I run Netscape 4.7 (in

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-23 Thread John
Hmmm, it still cant browse a download dir without losing the downloads name seem to suffer from memory loss , forgets the default download dir and sometimes a news server dissapears from the list only to reappear on subsequent openings. Fo

Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-23 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 21:28, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > > > From: Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >if you are running a system > > with libc5 or glibc 2.0 you are fine and won't have any problems with > > netscape. > > No, no, no. Netscape can be just as horribly unstable on glibc 2.0

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-23 Thread Daniel Barclay
> From: Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >if you are running a system > with libc5 or glibc 2.0 you are fine and won't have any problems with > netscape. No, no, no. Netscape can be just as horribly unstable on glibc 2.0 systems. I know. I suffer from it every day. Daniel

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-23 Thread Daniel Barclay
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Does it fix ... The Java that > crashes/freezes NS, the DNS lookups that freeze NS, the random crashes if > you don't close windows in the correct order, etc. Not as far as I can tell. (Well, I'm not sure I've seen DNS lookup lockups, but I've seen plenty of lockup

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast! [Details of how to get]

1999-10-18 Thread John Foster
Keith Harbaugh wrote: > Just thought it might be worthwhile to document a little more precisely > some experiences with Netscape 4.7 [not 4.71, as John later corrected]. > > The following command, or its ftp equivalent, fetches the file in question: > > wget > ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communi

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast! [gets rid of libc5 too!]

1999-10-16 Thread Keith Harbaugh
On Tue, 1999-10-12 at 17:50:14 -0500, John Foster wrote: > I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux > server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer > from Debian if you rename it to the proper convention. It seems MUCH > faster and more stable that

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast! [Details of how to get]

1999-10-16 Thread Keith Harbaugh
On Tue, 1999-10-12 at 17:50:14 -0500, John Foster wrote: > I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux > server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer > from Debian if you rename it to the proper convention. It seems MUCH > faster and more stable that

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-15 Thread Curt Daugaard
It is noticeably faster in my experience too. Curt Daugaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-15 Thread Adam Shand
> It does :-) But nothing prevents you from using the libc5 version of > netscape under potato (which is what I do) what i do as well, just download the libc5 version and use the netscape4 installer. > I wouldn't call it rock solid, but it's useable and only crashes two or > three times a week (

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-15 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 06:03:24PM -0800, Adam Shand wrote: > > I am using A stable Debian Slink production system. Netscape version > > 4.71 glibc2.0 from ftp.netscape.com. > okay that makes sense then. i suggest that if you like that version of > netscape you don't upgrade to potato. netscapes

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-14 Thread John
Same here, also had a big headache with it when i changed my user password and tried to change my pop password on my local machine netscape kept bombing out, when i entered my password. It doesnt seem to be able to remember news settings at times ive had news servers dissapear and then only to re

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-14 Thread Miles Bader
Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > well it sucks a lot harder with glibc 2.1, it's basically not usable. i've > had no major problems with libc5 or glibc 2.0 versions though i would love > to have a smaller/faster/more stable browser. Netscape 4.7x (whatever version is in debian unstable) w

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-14 Thread Adam Shand
> Netscape fine with glibc2.0? Not. It has been crashing on me since day > one and has only gotten worse with newer versions whether libc5 or > glibc2.0 well it sucks a lot harder with glibc 2.1, it's basically not usable. i've had no major problems with libc5 or glibc 2.0 versions though i woul

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-13 Thread Ben Messinger
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Adam Shand wrote: > > > i don't care if an app crashes, as long as it doesn't take anything else > > down with it. NT does it to me all thje time..doing normal things then > > BAM! thats the kinda crash that REALLY pisses me off. > > upgrade to glibc 2.1 and you will care.

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-13 Thread Adam Shand
> i don't care if an app crashes, as long as it doesn't take anything else > down with it. NT does it to me all thje time..doing normal things then > BAM! thats the kinda crash that REALLY pisses me off. upgrade to glibc 2.1 and you will care. it gets really bad. just to reiterate. there is n

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-13 Thread John Foster
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux > >server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer > >from Debian if you rename it to the proper c

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-13 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux >server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer >from Debian if you rename it to the proper convention. It seems MUCH >faster and more s

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-13 Thread aphro
i have no complaints about netscape either. Sure it can crash..lockup. But it has never..once.. brought down the system. never brought down X either. i don't care if an app crashes, as long as it doesn't take anything else down with it. NT does it to me all thje time..doing normal things then BAM

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-13 Thread Adam Shand
> I am using A stable Debian Slink production system. Netscape version > 4.71 glibc2.0 from ftp.netscape.com. okay that makes sense then. i suggest that if you like that version of netscape you don't upgrade to potato. netscapes glibc 2.1 code sucks hard. adam. Intern

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-13 Thread John Foster
Adam Shand wrote: > are you running glibc2.1? which version of netscape is it? libc5 or glibc? > > i tried to install the glibc 4.7 netscape using the netscape4 installer and > started getting netscape crashes again on authentication and window closes > so i reverted back to libc5. > > adam.

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-13 Thread John Foster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does it fix the problems that make me hate Netscape so? The Java that > crashes/freezes NS, the DNS lookups that freeze NS, the random crashes if > you don't close windows in the correct order, etc. > > --Ian Ehrenwald __

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-13 Thread Art Lemasters
On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 08:17:25PM -0500, Paul Miller wrote: > Its been a while since I've used the debs. I install netscape into > /usr/local and get the same annoyances that Ian complains of. Maybe the > netscape installer fixes things. Who knows? ...could be. I installed 4.61 with the deb

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-13 Thread Paul Miller
Ben Lutgens wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 07:13:31PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Does it fix the problems that make me hate Netscape so? The Java that > > crashes/freezes NS, the DNS lookups that freeze NS, the random crashes if > > you don't close windows in the correct order, etc.

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-13 Thread iehrenwald
> I am using the latest .deb packages (4.7) and I _never_ have any of these > things happens. Perhaps your problems lie elsewhere. No offense I dunno. Ever since I started using Netscape 4.0x and everything later it always would exhibit those problems on certain sites. I know others have these p

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-13 Thread Ben Lutgens
On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 07:13:31PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does it fix the problems that make me hate Netscape so? The Java that > crashes/freezes NS, the DNS lookups that freeze NS, the random crashes if > you don't close windows in the correct order, etc. > I am using the latest .deb p

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-12 Thread Adam Shand
> I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux > server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer > from Debian if you rename it to the proper convention. It seems MUCH > faster and more stable that all of the previous versions I have used. are you runni

Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-12 Thread iehrenwald
> I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux > server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer > from Debian if you rename it to the proper convention. It seems MUCH > faster and more stable that all of the previous versions I have used. Does it fix th

Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!

1999-10-12 Thread John Foster
I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer from Debian if you rename it to the proper convention. It seems MUCH faster and more stable that all of the previous versions I have used. -- John Foster AdVance