Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-03-15 Thread Petro
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:37:06PM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > begin Alan James quotation: > > > I'd like to give maildir a go, so how do I convert MH to MailDir ? > > If you use procmail, just set up new empty maildir folders corresponding > to each of your old MH folders, edit .procmailrc t

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-03-15 Thread Alan James
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 12:25:31AM -0500, Chris Hilts wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:37:06PM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > > (and to know that they're in maildir format), then run all your old > > messages back through procmail again. > > I believe procmail comes with a utility called 'formai

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-03-14 Thread Chris Hilts
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:37:06PM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > (and to know that they're in maildir format), then run all your old > messages back through procmail again. I believe procmail comes with a utility called 'formail' which you might find useful for this. Chris Hilts [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-03-14 Thread Craig Dickson
begin Alan James quotation: > I'd like to give maildir a go, so how do I convert MH to MailDir ? If you use procmail, just set up new empty maildir folders corresponding to each of your old MH folders, edit .procmailrc to use the new folders (and to know that they're in maildir format), then ru

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-03-14 Thread Alan James
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 12:59:15PM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > begin Alan James quotation: > > > Are you still using MH folders ? How'd you get mutt to show a list of MH > > folders with the new message count for each ? > > I converted my MH folders to maildir and now I use that. Mutt seems

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-25 Thread Craig Dickson
begin Alan James quotation: > Are you still using MH folders ? How'd you get mutt to show a list of MH > folders with the new message count for each ? I converted my MH folders to maildir and now I use that. Mutt seems to handle maildir better, and it's a better format in general (you don't h

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-25 Thread Alan James
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:44:30 -0800 Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found it a major annoyance, but maybe I just receive a lot more mail > than you do. Probably, ive just joined this list, and I've more than doubled my daily mail. > To me, also, there was the basic question, why do I

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-25 Thread Craig Dickson
begin Alan James quotation: > Bob Thibodeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I thought I'd try Sylpheed after seing mention of it on this > > list, but never felt like configuring another client. Now that > > I've read it doesn't play nice with mutt, I'll just remove it. > > I've got it working

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-25 Thread Alan James
On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:36:18 -0500 Bob Thibodeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought I'd try Sylpheed after seing mention of it on this > list, but never felt like configuring another client. Now that > I've read it doesn't play nice with mutt, I'll just remove it. I've got it working reasonab

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-25 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 02:00:03 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I dunno. Don't have it installed anymore. Pretty recent version > > > of the non-claws version (last month or so). The memory leak was > > > a slow but substantial one. I was often leaving Sylpheed running > > > for

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 04:53:02 -0300 Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:06:10 -0800 > "Eric G. Miller" wrote: > > > I dunno. Don't have it installed anymore. Pretty recent version > > of the non-claws version (last month or so). The memory leak was > > a s

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-25 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On 24 Feb 2002 20:28:56 + Patrick Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 19:55, Bill Moseley wrote: > > At 11:25 AM 02/24/02 -0800, Eric G. Miller wrote: > > > > > Although I read that IMAP can be slow if you have many mailboxes (I have > > almost 100), and hundreds of messa

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-25 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:06:10 -0800 "Eric G. Miller" wrote: > I dunno. Don't have it installed anymore. Pretty recent version > of the non-claws version (last month or so). The memory leak was > a slow but substantial one. I was often leaving Sylpheed running > for days, but after a couple it w

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Bob Thibodeau
I switched from Eudora and Pegasus in Windows to Elm and now mutt in Linux. I found the transition to be painless, although I did miss the folder handling in the early days. I did run Pegasus with WINE for a while, but made the final switch because I wanted to get away from the non-standard mailbox

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 06:30:17PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 21:56:23 -0800 > "Eric G. Miller" wrote: > > > Possibly dead? > > > > > Sylpheed: (which I just read about on this list). > > > > Works pretty well. Is fairly lightweight. I noticed it leaks a > >

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 21:56:23 -0800 "Eric G. Miller" wrote: > Possibly dead? > > > Sylpheed: (which I just read about on this list). > > Works pretty well. Is fairly lightweight. I noticed it leaks a > significant amount of memory over time (days). No idea about > IMAP support (think

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 09:41:54 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 09:33:55AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > > > > Sylpheed is quite nice. I don't use it myself because I don't want to be > > dependent on an X app to read my mail (I use mutt), but my wife switched > > to Sylphee

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 09:22:22 -0800 Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > begin Michael P. Soulier quotation: > > > Sylpheed is excellent I'm told. > > Sylpheed is quite nice. I don't use it myself because I don't want to be > dependent on an X app to read my mail (I use mutt), but my

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 14:28, Patrick Kirk wrote: > Evolution is a heavy application and has some quirks. but it is a very > good IMAP client in that it allows shortcuts to your frequently used > mailboxes and only asks you to select from mailboxes as opposed to all > files. I run an IMAP server

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Patrick Kirk
On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 19:55, Bill Moseley wrote: > At 11:25 AM 02/24/02 -0800, Eric G. Miller wrote: > > Although I read that IMAP can be slow if you have many mailboxes (I have > almost 100), and hundreds of messages a day. > > I have the same problem. The truth is that most mail cleints that

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Bill Moseley
At 11:25 AM 02/24/02 -0800, Eric G. Miller wrote: >I believe nmh uses .mh_sequences or some such. So, that would probably >be the "standard" way. Sylpheed uses it's own sequence file, so it >won't even jibe with the mh way of managing mail. This is something >the Sylpheed folks should fix. I tr

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 01:00:15PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 10:05:13 -0800 Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotation: > > > > > Is there a debian package for Sylpheed? > > > > Yes, in Woody and Sid. > > > > > BTW -- why would using

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 10:05:13 -0800 Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotation: > > > Is there a debian package for Sylpheed? > > Yes, in Woody and Sid. > > > BTW -- why would using an X mail application exclude you from also > > running mutt? > > It's not so

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread csj
On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 09:41:54 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 09:33:55AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > > > > Sylpheed is quite nice. I don't use it myself because I don't want to be > > dependent on an X app to read my mail (I use mutt), but my wife switched > > to Sylphee

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Craig Dickson
begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotation: > Is there a debian package for Sylpheed? Yes, in Woody and Sid. > BTW -- why would using an X mail application exclude you from also > running mutt? It's not so much "prevented" as "made sufficiently painful". I tried using Sylpheed and mutt together severa

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread moseley
On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 09:33:55AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > > Sylpheed is quite nice. I don't use it myself because I don't want to be > dependent on an X app to read my mail (I use mutt), but my wife switched > to Sylpheed after we decided that Outlook Express was too dangerous, and > she's

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Bill Moseley
At 08:46 AM 02/24/02 -0800, Wendell Cochran wrote: >> So, to start off with, I'm looking to make the transition to full-time >Linux easy by finding similar tools to I'm used to using. >[snip] > >Similarities can be confusing. Maybe -- maybe -- you'd do better >to accept differences, even seek them

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Craig Dickson
begin Michael P. Soulier quotation: > Sylpheed is excellent I'm told. Sylpheed is quite nice. I don't use it myself because I don't want to be dependent on an X app to read my mail (I use mutt), but my wife switched to Sylpheed after we decided that Outlook Express was too dangerous, and s

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Wendell Cochran
> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 21:38:37 -0800 > From: Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [snip] > . . . Like many, I'm coming from a Windows environment. I've got > three linux machines under my desk and for a year now I've booted Win98 > used basically only browsers and Eudora (3.0) on my Win9

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 23/02/02 Bill Moseley did speaketh: > My head is swimming a bit trying to limit my choices of mail clients to test. My personal preference is Mutt, but coming from browsers and Eudora, you might want to try something simpler to begin with. Evolution is not ready, IMHO. Even at 1.0 su

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Patrick Kirk
On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 05:55, Timothy R. Butler wrote: > > > I was using RedHat 7.2 for a while and I actually liked the KDE setup, > > although a bit heavy weight. But I also like how light-weight of a setup I > > now have with Debian. (I suppose I'll need a desktop environment at some > > point

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread M.Alberto
On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 09:38:37PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > And not related to email, anyone have a replacement suggestion (other than > Emacs ;) for my old basic friend on the windows side of Program File Editor > (pfe)? Don't waste time with emacs and vi. Try jed. It's the best console editor

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-24 Thread Sam Varghese
On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 09:38:37PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > I was using RedHat 7.2 for a while and I actually liked the KDE setup, > although a bit heavy weight. But I also like how light-weight of a setup I > now have with Debian. (I suppose I'll need a desktop environment at some > point.)

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-23 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 09:38:37PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > Evolution: No comment other than lots of eye candy and resource demands. Several like it. It and its brethren nautilus are just to resource intensive for my old hardware. > Mahogany: No idea. > Aethera: No idea.

Re: Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-23 Thread Timothy R. Butler
> I was using RedHat 7.2 for a while and I actually liked the KDE setup, > although a bit heavy weight. But I also like how light-weight of a setup I > now have with Debian. (I suppose I'll need a desktop environment at some > point.) You might give KDE 2.2.2 (from unstable) a try. It feels m

Mail clients (and text editors)

2002-02-23 Thread Bill Moseley
My head is swimming a bit trying to limit my choices of mail clients to test. I'm wondering if someone can help narrow my choices. Background: Like many, I'm coming from a Windows environment. I've got three linux machines under my desk and for a year now I've booted Win98 used basically only br