Re: Linux supprt

2023-11-16 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 02:24:05PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: [...] > > "You get what you settle for." > > -- Thelma and Louise > > I settled for Debian. Worked out OK 'til now. This. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Linux supprt

2023-11-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> But mail as "they" know it has nothing to do with transport or >> networking. They know it as a service not as anything else. >> Like electricity. The "freedom" to exchange email is what >> matters to them. > Especially if they can control that freedom. I think the "they" above referred to the

Re: Linux supprt

2023-11-16 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Tue Nov 14 13:25:36 2023 Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 12:35 PM wrote: > >> But yes, in a way convenience can drown out freedom. See that other >> thread in this mailing list about mail providers. All people flocking >> to gmail although it's clear that Google would like t

Re: Linux supprt

2023-11-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 11:36:18AM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 12:35 PM wrote: > > > > > But yes, in a way convenience can drown out freedom [...] > But mail as "they" know it has nothing to do with transport or networking. > They know it as a service not as anything

Re: Linux supprt

2023-11-14 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 12:35 PM wrote: > > But yes, in a way convenience can drown out freedom. See that other > thread in this mailing list about mail providers. All people flocking > to gmail although it's clear that Google would like to kill mail > as we know it. > But mail as "they" know it h

Re: Linux supprt

2023-11-13 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 2:56 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > In my experience I get much better support from the user community of > > an open source product then I get from paid support of a commercial > > product. Frequently I know more about the product than the person I am > > dealing with. > > Sa

Re: Linux supprt

2023-11-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 08:17:20AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: > > I think this still only covers a small fraction of the problem. It > > just lowers the bar of the "technically-inclined" limit. I think many > > more people just want to have someone they can call on the ph

Re: Linux supprt

2023-11-13 Thread John Hasler
Stefan Monnier writes: > I think this still only covers a small fraction of the problem. It > just lowers the bar of the "technically-inclined" limit. I think many > more people just want to have someone they can call on the phone to > help them get through their yearly technical problem. I thi

Re: Linux supprt

2023-11-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
> In my experience I get much better support from the user community of > an open source product then I get from paid support of a commercial > product. Frequently I know more about the product than the person I am > dealing with. Same for me. But I suspect we're in the minority. Stefan

Re: Linux supprt (was: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?])

2023-11-13 Thread Larry Martell
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 7:48 AM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > >> Indeed, technically-inclined people are often better served with Free > >> Software, and Free Software can also be a great choice for large > >> corporations who can either have on-site techsupport people or can hire > >> external suppor

Linux supprt (was: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?])

2023-11-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Indeed, technically-inclined people are often better served with Free >> Software, and Free Software can also be a great choice for large >> corporations who can either have on-site techsupport people or can hire >> external support, but it is a lot more difficult to find commercial >> support f