Re: google-chrome printer/copier error

2025-02-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/02/2025 10:39, John Conover wrote: [2139:2164:0201/184043.963188:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(576)] \ Failed to call method: org.freedesktop.DBus.StartServiceByName: \ object_path= /org/freedesktop/DBus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: \ Did not receive a reply. Does anyone k

Re: google-chrome printer/copier error

2025-02-01 Thread David Wright
On Sat 01 Feb 2025 at 19:39:55 (-0800), John Conover wrote: > > [2139:2164:0201/184043.963188:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(576)] \ > Failed to call method: org.freedesktop.DBus.StartServiceByName: \ > object_path= /org/freedesktop/DBus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: \ > Did not receiv

google-chrome printer/copier error

2025-02-01 Thread John Conover
[2139:2164:0201/184043.963188:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(576)] \ Failed to call method: org.freedesktop.DBus.StartServiceByName: \ object_path= /org/freedesktop/DBus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: \ Did not receive a reply. Does anyone know where freedesktop is from: org.free

Re: Google searches requiring JavaScript (was Re: Can a Bash function be named "w3m" ?)

2025-01-30 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Thursday 30 January 2025 10:13:39 am Richard Owlett wrote: > > On another, I've switched search-engine defaults from > > Google to (the HTML-only version of) DuckDuckGo. So far neither is > > giving me such an obviously superior experience for me to decide to > >

Re: Google searches requiring JavaScript (was Re: Can a Bash function be named "w3m" ?)

2025-01-30 Thread Richard Owlett
On 1/30/25 8:15 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 2025-01-30 at 08:52, Will Mengarini wrote: w3m needs some serious maintenance. It's still my favorite browser, but I hear Google is planning to start requiring Javascript for searches, so somebody's going to have to step up if w3m is to rem

Google searches requiring JavaScript (was Re: Can a Bash function be named "w3m" ?)

2025-01-30 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-01-30 at 08:52, Will Mengarini wrote: > w3m needs some serious maintenance. It's still my favorite browser, > but I hear Google is planning to start requiring Javascript for > searches, so somebody's going to have to step up if w3m is to remain > viable. Planning

Yet another lick at Gmail and Google [was: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick]

2024-04-16 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 01:39:34PM -, Curt wrote: [...] > It would've been clearer to have advised using another mail application, > period [...] > But no harm, no foul, and all is well. The only real mystery is how > Tomas resisted getting yet another lick in against Gma

Re: Buster / Google Remote Desktop, rustdesk.com

2023-05-04 Thread Geert Stappers
On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote: > On 4 May 2023, at 22:20, Geert Stappers wrote: > > On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 10:10:51PM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote: > >>> On 4 May 2023, at 22:00, zithro wrote: > >>> 29 Apr 2023 05:31, Gareth Evans wro

Re: Buster / Google Remote Desktop

2023-05-04 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 4 May 2023, at 22:20, Geert Stappers wrote: > > On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 10:10:51PM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote: >>> On 4 May 2023, at 22:00, zithro wrote: >>> 29 Apr 2023 05:31, Gareth Evans wrote: >>>> It seems Google Remote Desktop, a Chrome exte

Re: Buster / Google Remote Desktop

2023-05-04 Thread Geert Stappers
On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 10:10:51PM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote: > On 4 May 2023, at 22:00, zithro wrote: > > 29 Apr 2023 05:31, Gareth Evans wrote: > >> It seems Google Remote Desktop, a Chrome extension, does not work > >> properly with Buster + Mate. I haven't tr

Re: Buster / Google Remote Desktop

2023-05-04 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 4 May 2023, at 22:00, zithro wrote: > > On 29 Apr 2023 05:31, Gareth Evans wrote: >> It seems Google Remote Desktop, a Chrome extension, does not work properly >> with Buster + Mate. I haven't tried with Bullseye, which is not an option >> in the e

Re: Buster / Google Remote Desktop

2023-05-04 Thread zithro
On 29 Apr 2023 05:31, Gareth Evans wrote: It seems Google Remote Desktop, a Chrome extension, does not work properly with Buster + Mate. I haven't tried with Bullseye, which is not an option in the environment concerned due to CUPS bugs, but in Buster there is about 5 seconds of remote-

Buster / Google Remote Desktop

2023-04-28 Thread Gareth Evans
It seems Google Remote Desktop, a Chrome extension, does not work properly with Buster + Mate. I haven't tried with Bullseye, which is not an option in the environment concerned due to CUPS bugs, but in Buster there is about 5 seconds of remote-mouse-movement then no more. Does anyone kn

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-04-15 Thread Bret Busby
30 mars 2023, 23:56 de debianl...@potentially-spam.de-bruyn.de: I was successful at downloading the video with: yt-dlp --verbose -k --ignore-config -c https://manifest.prod.boltdns.net/manifest/v1/hls/v4/clear/1241706627001/83ddeca4-2e3a-4149-840f-0ca907c2cb59/10s/master.m3u8?fastly_token=Nj

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread DdB
Am 31.03.2023 um 00:28 schrieb l0f...@tuta.io: > How do you get that URL? Via your browser resource/code inspector? Hi, i had been asking not having to answer that question, because i myself do not really understand, how it works. I stumbled across an explanation while skimming through open issue

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 30 mars 2023, 23:56 de debianl...@potentially-spam.de-bruyn.de: > I was successful at downloading the video with: > >> yt-dlp --verbose -k --ignore-config -c >> https://manifest.prod.boltdns.net/manifest/v1/hls/v4/clear/1241706627001/83ddeca4-2e3a-4149-840f-0ca907c2cb59/10s/master.m3u8?fastl

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:28:23 +0200 (CEST) l0f...@tuta.io wrote: Hello l0f...@tuta.io, >Interesting theory but I can play that specific video in my browser >without being logged in ;) Weird; I had to log in first. No idea why your experience differs. Still, as this doesn't forward the core issu

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread DdB
Am 30.03.2023 um 20:20 schrieb Bret Busby: > On 31/3/23 02:08, David Wright wrote: >> On Fri 31 Mar 2023 at 01:41:04 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 31/3/23 00:40, David Wright wrote: On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > I had previously been able to use youtu

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread l0f4r0
Hello Brad, 30 mars 2023, 23:20 de b...@fineby.me.uk: > >In your case, yt-dlp falls back on its generic extractor (documentation > >says "Generic downloader that works on some sites") but it doesn't work > >for familysearch.org visibly... > > Largely, I suspect, it's because to access video on th

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 22:55:05 +0200 (CEST) l0f...@tuta.io wrote: Hello l0f...@tuta.io, >In your case, yt-dlp falls back on its generic extractor (documentation >says "Generic downloader that works on some sites") but it doesn't work >for familysearch.org visibly... Largely, I suspect, it's becaus

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread l0f4r0
Hello, 30 mars 2023, 20:46 de b...@busby.net: > Fri Mar 31 02:18:31 bret@bret-Precision-Tower-5810:~$yt-dlp > https://www.familysearch.org/rootstech/session/expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng > [generic] > expanding-your-family-tree-with-side

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 31/3/23 02:08, David Wright wrote: On Fri 31 Mar 2023 at 01:41:04 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: On 31/3/23 00:40, David Wright wrote: On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from youtube, but, it no longer work

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 01:08:19PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 31 Mar 2023 at 01:41:04 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: [...] > Writing "did not work" just doesn't cut it on this list: > we need some specifics. Here's an example I ran this > morning on a reference given by David Christensen: T

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 31 Mar 2023 at 01:41:04 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > On 31/3/23 00:40, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > > > > > I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from > > > youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube. > >

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 31/3/23 00:40, David Wright wrote: On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube. AIUI youtube-dl is now obsolete, and its new spelling is yt-dlp. You can downlo

youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread David Wright
On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from > youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube. AIUI youtube-dl is now obsolete, and its new spelling is yt-dlp. You can download it from bullseye-backports. If you'

Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Curt
On 2023-03-30, Bret Busby wrote: > > I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from > youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube. > If you're not using the latest version, this is it: https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl-2021.12.17.tar.gz I used this (or

Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Bret Busby
. Conspiracy theories tossed aside, that's still a rational possibility that needs pursued on my end here. BUT THEN... Google Chrome does work properly. That's why I haven't wasted any time nor brain storage on actively investigating local ISP throttling as a most likely answer. :)

OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread rhkramer
tossed aside, that's still a rational possibility that needs > pursued on my end here. > > BUT THEN... Google Chrome does work properly. That's why I haven't > wasted any time nor brain storage on actively investigating local ISP > throttling as a most likely answe

Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.

2023-03-26 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 3/26/23, Juan R.D. Silva wrote: > Hi folks, > > Debian Bullseye here up to date. Browsers installed: Firefox, Opera, > Vivaldi, and Google Chrome. > > I'm having a weird problem streaming movies from archive.org. The movies > are lagging & keep buffering in

Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.

2023-03-25 Thread Juan R.D. Silva
Hi folks, Debian Bullseye here up to date. Browsers installed: Firefox, Opera, Vivaldi, and Google Chrome. I'm having a weird problem streaming movies from archive.org. The movies are lagging & keep buffering in all browsers but Google Chrome. Google Chrome streams same movies at

Re: Mysql backup on Google Drive

2022-09-28 Thread Tim Woodall
On Wed, 28 Sep 2022, Remigio wrote: ... The package rclone can do this. unfortunately I can't find Rclone package Furter information? Thanks Wild guess, but lenny probably predates google drive so rclone won't be present unless you can backport. (someone can check the dates but

Re: Mysql backup on Google Drive

2022-09-28 Thread Махно
Hello. Rclone is in official Debian repo. Just check this https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/rclone 2022-09-28, tr, 14:48 Remigio rašė: > > ... > > The package rclone can do this. > unfortunately I can't find Rclone package > Furter information? > Thanks >

Re: Mysql backup on Google Drive

2022-09-28 Thread Remigio
... > The package rclone can do this. unfortunately I can't find Rclone package Furter information? Thanks

Re: Mysql backup on Google Drive

2022-09-28 Thread Dan Ritter
x27;s possible to automatically send the .sql file created > via cron to a Google Drive account. That file is usually about 200 Mb. The package rclone can do this. -dsr-

Mysql backup on Google Drive

2022-09-28 Thread Remigio
ql file created via cron to a Google Drive account. That file is usually about 200 Mb. Thanks for helping me -- Remigio

Re: Google Chrome can share but Chromium cannot share screen

2022-09-11 Thread Pankaj Jangid
Corentin Bardet writes: > I think you have no other option than using Google Chrome for your > meetings. Screen sharing works in Firefox ESR on Wayland. So I still have options. Just that few features - like blur background etc. doesn't work in FF.

Re: Google Chrome can share but Chromium cannot share screen

2022-09-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 2022-09-11 at 10:26 +0200, Corentin Bardet wrote: > Hi, > > Le 2022-09-11 07:39, Pankaj Jangid a écrit : > > For a few work related meetings, I have to use Google Meet. But the > > screensharing doesn't work in the Chromium installed from stable APT > > r

Re: Google Chrome can share but Chromium cannot share screen

2022-09-11 Thread David
On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 10:26, Corentin Bardet wrote: Hi, Le 2022-09-11 07:39, Pankaj Jangid a écrit : For a few work related meetings, I have to use Google Meet. But the screensharing doesn't work in the Chromium installed from stable APT repository. Clicking on the share-screen ico

Re: Google Chrome can share but Chromium cannot share screen

2022-09-11 Thread Corentin Bardet
Hi, Le 2022-09-11 07:39, Pankaj Jangid a écrit : For a few work related meetings, I have to use Google Meet. But the screensharing doesn't work in the Chromium installed from stable APT repository. Clicking on the share-screen icon and then selecting any of the three options - Tab, Wi

Google Chrome can share but Chromium cannot share screen

2022-09-10 Thread Pankaj Jangid
For a few work related meetings, I have to use Google Meet. But the screensharing doesn't work in the Chromium installed from stable APT repository. Clicking on the share-screen icon and then selecting any of the three options - Tab, Windows, Entire Screen - shows this error message,

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-09 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, June 09, 2022 02:13:31 AM mick crane wrote: > I finally had to set up an app password for mail to work. > During the process of discovering what to click on there was the > statement. > "Google will never use the content of your emails in order to select > wh

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-08 Thread mick crane
that. Let the "official reasonning" be based on "security". Great cover story, bcoz we like to trust the security mirage [Bruce Schneier]! I finally had to set up an app password for mail to work. During the process of discovering what to click on there was the statement. &

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-08 Thread DdB
Am 09.06.2022 um 01:54 schrieb rhkra...@gmail.com: >> if we leave aside for a moment incriminations of corporate power and >> plots, is there some reason to connect the two methods? > No -- from a purely logical point of view (afaics) there is no reason to > connect them -- Goo

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-08 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, June 08, 2022 05:58:44 PM Felmon Davis wrote: > I don't understand the *logical* connection. logically you can have > app-specific pw's without 2-step auth. (not sure about the other way > around.) Google requires 2-step authorization as a prerequisite to a

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-08 Thread Felmon Davis
On Wed, 8 Jun 2022, Kamil Jońca wrote: rhkra...@gmail.com writes: On Wednesday, June 08, 2022 12:18:58 PM Curt wrote: On 2022-06-08, Felmon Davis wrote: that's the thing: I don't understand how the parts fit together; what is the connection between: (1) 2-step auth (2) app-specific pw Wi

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-08 Thread Kamil Jońca
rhkra...@gmail.com writes: > On Wednesday, June 08, 2022 12:18:58 PM Curt wrote: >> On 2022-06-08, Felmon Davis wrote: >> > that's the thing: I don't understand how the parts fit together; what >> > is the connection between: >> > >> > (1) 2-step auth >> > (2) app-specific pw >> >> Without (1)

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-08 Thread Curt
On 2022-06-08, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, June 08, 2022 12:18:58 PM Curt wrote: >> On 2022-06-08, Felmon Davis wrote: >> > that's the thing: I don't understand how the parts fit together; what >> > is the connection between: >> > >> > (1) 2-step auth >> > (2) app-specific pw >> >

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-08 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, June 08, 2022 12:18:58 PM Curt wrote: > On 2022-06-08, Felmon Davis wrote: > > that's the thing: I don't understand how the parts fit together; what > > is the connection between: > > > > (1) 2-step auth > > (2) app-specific pw > > Without (1) turned on, you cannot create (2). But

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-08 Thread Curt
On 2022-06-08, Felmon Davis wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jun 2022, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Tuesday, June 07, 2022 09:38:42 PM Felmon Davis wrote: >>> be it a/b testing or b/s testing, the change seems to have gone into >>> effect and I can only use Alpine by acquiring an "app-password". >>> >>> I'

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-08 Thread Felmon Davis
On Wed, 8 Jun 2022, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, June 07, 2022 09:38:42 PM Felmon Davis wrote: be it a/b testing or b/s testing, the change seems to have gone into effect and I can only use Alpine by acquiring an "app-password". I'm wondering if I can turn off 2-step authentification

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-08 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, June 07, 2022 09:38:42 PM Felmon Davis wrote: > be it a/b testing or b/s testing, the change seems to have gone into > effect and I can only use Alpine by acquiring an "app-password". > > I'm wondering if I can turn off 2-step authentification now. I'm curious about the same thing --

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-07 Thread tomas
be it a/b testing or b/s testing, the change seems to have gone into effect > and I can only use Alpine by acquiring an "app-password". > > I'm wondering if I can turn off 2-step authentification now. I wasn't clear enough, it seems. With "sinking ship" I was rather referring to Google "mail". Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-07 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sat, 4 Jun 2022, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2022 at 07:21:57PM +0200, Felmon Davis wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2022, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] I misspoke or miswrote: I have Alpine running but *without* the app-specific setting. They're messing with your brain. I'd leave the

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread sp...@caiway.net
On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 20:08:37 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Please don't feed the troll. No worry John, I have the tools prepared. Most secure laptop in the world. The writer of my BIOS is a coreboot forker. He soldered the CMOS by hand. Capitalists can't even break in my BIOS to stop me. They ca

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, 4 June 2022 20:40:34 EDT Larry Martell wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 4:17 PM sp...@caiway.net wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The reason: > > > > I am promoting a free volunteer-run run society. > > > > This mailing list as example for how I learned. Thanks! > > > > Things go faster and

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread sp...@caiway.net
https://www.kaiostech.com/developers/ let firefox win the browserwar help the third world before they get captured by american capitalism we have the tools Arne On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 19:50:02 -0500 Larry Martell wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 7:44 PM sp...@caiway.net wrote: > > > > NO! > > >

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread John Hasler
Please don't feed the troll. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread Larry Martell
On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 7:44 PM sp...@caiway.net wrote: > > NO! > > Some people like to work for a boss and follow orders from imbiciles. You sound like an imbecile to me. > On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 19:40:34 -0500 > Larry Martell wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 4:17 PM sp...@caiway.net wrote: >

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread sp...@caiway.net
NO! Some people like to work for a boss and follow orders from imbiciles. Arne On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 19:40:34 -0500 Larry Martell wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 4:17 PM sp...@caiway.net wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > The reason: > > > > I am promoting a free volunteer-run run society. > > > > This

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread Larry Martell
On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 4:17 PM sp...@caiway.net wrote: > > Hi, > > The reason: > > I am promoting a free volunteer-run run society. > > This mailing list as example for how I learned. Thanks! > > Things go faster and better. > > > All those commercial ones only have one goal: make more profit. > >

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread sp...@caiway.net
On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 17:07:32 -0400 Edwin Zimmerman wrote: > > > There will be always volunteers for learning/perfectioning a mailserver. > > > > Donations for the best mailserver in the world for example. > As a sysadmin of a mailserver, I can tell you this would never be able to > compete on up

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread sp...@caiway.net
Hi, The reason: I am promoting a free volunteer-run run society. This mailing list as example for how I learned. Thanks! Things go faster and better. All those commercial ones only have one goal: make more profit. Led by stupid managers with only $ $ eyes giving orders to developers. Thank

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread Edwin Zimmerman
> There will be always volunteers for learning/perfectioning a mailserver. > > Donations for the best mailserver in the world for example. As a sysadmin of a mailserver, I can tell you this would never be able to compete on uptime, security, and features of gmail.

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Sat, Jun 04, 2022 at 10:02:05PM +0200, sp...@caiway.net wrote: > Hi, > > My first mail provider (in Oslo) promised free mailadress for life. > > Then it was sold to a kapitalist and they started to ask money. > > I do not like that. > > I know it is possible to run a free host. > > By volun

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread wec
On 6/4/22 4:02 PM, sp...@caiway.net wrote: Hi, My first mail provider (in Oslo) promised free mailadress for life. Then it was sold to a kapitalist and they started to ask money. I do not like that. I know it is possible to run a free host. By volunteers running the server for example. Why

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread sp...@caiway.net
On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 15:34:19 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > sp...@caiway.net writes: > > I know it is possible to run a free host. > > By volunteers running the server for example. > > There are expenses. Who pays them? There will be always volunteers for learning/perfectioning a mailserver. Don

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread John Hasler
sp...@caiway.net writes: > I know it is possible to run a free host. > By volunteers running the server for example. There are expenses. Who pays them? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread sp...@caiway.net
Hi, My first mail provider (in Oslo) promised free mailadress for life. Then it was sold to a kapitalist and they started to ask money. I do not like that. I know it is possible to run a free host. By volunteers running the server for example. Arne On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 14:00:27 -0500 John

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/04/2022 01:50 PM, sp...@caiway.net wrote: *SNIP* So I am also in the search for a good free provider. FREE COSTS *TOO MUCH* If you think Google et al are charities I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread John Hasler
Arne writes: > So I am also in the search for a good free provider. Why does it need to be free? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread sp...@caiway.net
Hi, IMO I would search for another mail account. I use google mail only for sites where i expect SPAM. Last time I checked google mail is some 3 years ago. So I tried my provider's mail account. There it is not possible to send to protonmail. It has also no working web interface. So

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 04, 2022 at 07:21:57PM +0200, Felmon Davis wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jun 2022, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > I misspoke or miswrote: I have Alpine running but *without* the app-specific > setting. > > > They're messing with your brain. I'd leave the sinking ship. > > > > I'm glad to hav

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 04, 2022 at 04:39:39PM +0200, Felmon Davis wrote: [...] > the furniture, Gentlemen, mind the furniture! That one's good :-) Thanks for a hearty laugh! Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sat, 4 Jun 2022, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2022 at 03:45:00PM +0200, Felmon Davis wrote: I do think Google et al. sometimes make pronouncements and then don't get off their ass ('arse' if you prefer) - that how committees work with (or against) other commit

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sat, 4 Jun 2022, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2022 at 02:24:16PM -, Curt wrote: On 2022-06-04, wrote: Bullshit. Famous last word. I've already determined that your principles go no deeper than your dime-a-dozen opinions. This might be due to your short-sightedn

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 04, 2022 at 02:24:16PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2022-06-04, wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Bullshit. > > > > Famous last word. > > > > I've already determined that your principles go no deeper than your > dime-a-dozen opinions. This might be due to your short-sightedness. Or not. Cheers

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread Curt
On 2022-06-04, wrote: > >> > >> Bullshit. > > Famous last word. > I've already determined that your principles go no deeper than your dime-a-dozen opinions.

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread Curt
On 2022-06-04, Brad Rogers wrote: > >>Bullshit. >> > Well! > > What a witty, erudite, cogent, well reasoned, rational and eloquently > put explanation. > > I'm convinced. > That's what's missing from *your* affirmation and the very reason it is pure bullshit.

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread tomas
t; > > What a witty, erudite, cogent, well reasoned, rational and eloquently > > put explanation. > > > > I'm convinced. > > > > > > not his usual stylistic savoir-faire but who cares? we'll soon know what's > going on. > > I do th

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread Felmon Davis
27;ll soon know what's going on. I do think Google et al. sometimes make pronouncements and then don't get off their ass ('arse' if you prefer) - that how committees work with (or against) other committees. for now, I still have Alpine with the app-specific setting. fjd -- Davis Verbum sat sapienti.

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 11:50:55 - (UTC) Curt wrote: Hello Curt, >Bullshit. > Well! What a witty, erudite, cogent, well reasoned, rational and eloquently put explanation. I'm convinced. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 04, 2022 at 11:50:55AM -, Curt wrote: > On 2022-06-02, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > Expect access from anything other than google's own web interface to go > > away at some point in the future. > > > > Bullshit. Famous last word. -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-04 Thread Curt
On 2022-06-02, Brad Rogers wrote: > > Expect access from anything other than google's own web interface to go > away at some point in the future. > Bullshit.

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-03 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, June 02, 2022 01:59:45 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I then entered that in place of the old passwords in kmail. (I don't think > it stated it -- I wasn't sure whether to enter the spaces as part of the > password or not -- I did, and that worked.) An update -- that was on an old (t

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 20:33:54 +0200 (CEST) Felmon Davis wrote: Hello Felmon, >guess Google's still trying to figure out which 3rd-party clients they >dislike. All of them. Expect access from anything other than google's own web interface to go away at some point in the future. -- Regards _

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-02 Thread Felmon Davis
that old version of kmail (version 1.13.7 for kde 4.8.4 on Debian Wheezy) works again using pop3 I had a little trouble setting it up until I got to the right place in google -- I first tried to change the settings on the gmail webclient page but couldn't find the correct options. Then logg

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-02 Thread paulf
works again using pop3 > > I had a little trouble setting it up until I got to the right place > in google -- I first tried to change the settings on the gmail > webclient page but couldn't find the correct options. Then logged in > on google.com and did find the correct option

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-02 Thread rhkramer
y) stopped working around 8:30 am this morning. I set up an application specific password this morning, and that old version of kmail (version 1.13.7 for kde 4.8.4 on Debian Wheezy) works again using pop3 I had a little trouble setting it up until I got to the right place in google -- I first

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-02 Thread nemo
ntication enabled it is possible to generate app > >> password for use with standard authentication. > > > > It's June 1st and my ability to collect mail via POP3 from gmail is > > unimpaired. No OAUTH2 or 2FA at this site. Whatever Google intended > > the situation to

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-01 Thread mick crane
or 2FA at this site. Whatever Google intended the situation to be after May 30th, it appears the interpretation by some users of their mail was off the mark. I'd just allowed non secure apps a year or so ago and seems to be still working. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-01 Thread Brian
> > With two factor authentication enabled it is possible to generate > > > app password for use with standard authentication. > > > > It's June 1st and my ability to collect mail via POP3 from gmail is > > unimpaired. No OAUTH2 or 2FA at this site. Whatever

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-01 Thread Patrick Bartek
thentication. > > It's June 1st and my ability to collect mail via POP3 from gmail is > unimpaired. No OAUTH2 or 2FA at this site. Whatever Google intended > the situation to be after May 30th, it appears the interpretation by > some users of their mail was off the mark. &g

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-01 Thread Brian
ed. No OAUTH2 or 2FA at this site. Whatever Google intended the situation to be after May 30th, it appears the interpretation by some users of their mail was off the mark. -- Brian.

Re: Google Chrome leaves processes around each time is closed

2022-05-16 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 17/5/22 6:23 am, nimrod wrote: Hi, recently Google Chrome started to leave around a "chrome --enable-crashpad" process every time I closed it. Each of such processes sucks 25% of CPU. If I open another instance of Chrome and I close it, another process is created and reaches

Google Chrome leaves processes around each time is closed

2022-05-16 Thread nimrod
Hi, recently Google Chrome started to leave around a "chrome --enable- crashpad" process every time I closed it. Each of such processes sucks 25% of CPU. If I open another instance of Chrome and I close it, another process is created and reaches the 25% of CPU, and so on and so forth.

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-16 Thread David Wright
On Mon 16 May 2022 at 14:31:50 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Sun 15 May 2022 at 22:39:14 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 14 May 2022 at 14:02:36 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 14 May 2022 at 12:02:49 -, Curt wrote: > > > > On 2022-05-14, wrote: > > > > > On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 08:58:37

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-16 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 May 2022 at 22:39:14 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 14 May 2022 at 14:02:36 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Sat 14 May 2022 at 12:02:49 -, Curt wrote: > > > On 2022-05-14, wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 08:58:37AM -, Curt wrote: > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > >> W

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-16 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 14 May 2022 07:25:36 +0200 wrote: > On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 03:05:11PM +1200, Ash Joubert wrote: > > On 14/05/2022 00:42, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 07:16:11AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > A loong password is not "equivalent" to 2FA, that's right. Good >

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-16 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 14 May 2022 15:05:11 +1200 Ash Joubert wrote: > On 14/05/2022 00:42, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 07:16:11AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> A loong password is not "equivalent" to 2FA, that's right. Good > >> password management (of which length is but a part) is

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