Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Scott wrote: > > I don't know, but I doubt it. I've never seen Iceweasel 3 render a font. > It seg faults at startup so I've never opened a single web page with it. > It's completely useless to me. I don't kno

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

Paul Scott wrote: I accidentally sent this first from an unsubscribed address. Excuse me if it shows up twice. Freddy Freeloader wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/12/08 00:18, Freddy Freeloader wrote: [snip] If both IW3 & Epiphany are segfaulting, it seems that you have a problem with

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

I accidentally sent this first from an unsubscribed address. Excuse me if it shows up twice. Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > On 07/12/08 00:18, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > [snip] > > > If both IW3 & Epiphany are segfaulting, it seems that you have a > problem with gecko-1.9. >

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > On 07/12/08 00:18, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > [snip] > > > If both IW3 & Epiphany are segfaulting, it seems that you have a > problem with gecko-1.9. > >> >> > I don't know if it's libxul0d or xulrunner. The iceweasel > maintainer thinks it's x

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

On 12 Jul 2008, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 07/12/08 00:18, Freddy Freeloader wrote: >> [snip] >> >>> I've pretty much given up on Iceweasel 3.0 too. It has seg faulted on >>> my main workstation ever since it entere

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/08 00:18, Freddy Freeloader wrote: [snip] I've pretty much given up on Iceweasel 3.0 too. It has seg faulted on my main workstation ever since it entered Sid. I have yet to get it to open a single web page. I've tur

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/08 00:18, Freddy Freeloader wrote: [snip] > > I've pretty much given up on Iceweasel 3.0 too. It has seg faulted on > my main workstation ever since it entered Sid. I have yet to get it to > open a single web page. I've turned in bug repor

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

Anthony Campbell wrote: Well, I struggled with iceweasel 3.0 from Sid for a week but have now given up. First, printing no longer worked (see earlier posts). I got it to work, sort of, by using inotifywait and printing the mozilla.ps file but it wasn't a good solution. Then I found I could no lon

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/08 06:21, Anthony Campbell wrote: Well, I struggled with iceweasel 3.0 from Sid for a week but have now given up. First, printing no longer worked (see earlier posts). I got it to work, sort of, by using inotifywait an

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On Thu,10.Jul.08, 09:15:37, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > I see you are using mutt. Put this in your .muttrc: > > > > auto_view text/html > > > > and you should now be able to see the message rendered in a browser. > > > > Yes, I know, and I did have the necessary entries in ~/mailcap on my > ot

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On 10 Jul 2008, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 09:47:56AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > On 07 Jul 2008, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > ^ > Haven't seen that spelling before, interesting. > > > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Anthony Campbell >

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:42:52AM +1200, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 09:47:56AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > On 07 Jul 2008, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > ^ > Haven't seen that spelling before, interesting. >

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 09:47:56AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 07 Jul 2008, Christofer C. Bell wrote: ^ Haven't seen that spelling before, interesting. > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Anthony Campbell > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0) SOLVED

On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > Filing the bug > (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=489765) > immediately produced an answer: you have to enter > > gtk-print-backends = "file,lpr,cups" > > in ~/.gtkrc-2.0. > > Then lpr printing works with standard Debian packages. I th

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On 07 Jul 2008, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Anthony Campbell > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: Since you posted in a form I couldn't read, I can't reply. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian

Re: Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0) SOLVED

> It will need some more research to find out why it worked by > default with the user-compiled versions, but I think I won't be > bothered. Probably because it was simply built without support for cups and automatically picked lpr? Here's another bug report about the same problem, http://bugs.d

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On 07/07/2008 07:29 AM, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: [...] BTW Mumia W., according to his message, stores his newly-compiled gtk in an "exotic" location. I didn't do this. /usr/local (the default when you compile from gtk.org) is exotic enough. Stuff which is installed there has priority over simila

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0) SOLVED

Filing the bug (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=489765) immediately produced an answer: you have to enter gtk-print-backends = "file,lpr,cups" in ~/.gtkrc-2.0. Then lpr printing works with standard Debian packages. I think it is a bug that this is not done automatically, or at l

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 05 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > What is the reason that you don't install CUPS? > > > > 1. because lpr/lpd and magicfilter work perfectly for me. > Other than the minor detail of not printing from your web br

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

Ron Johnson wrote: > On 07/07/08 09:14, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: >> It seems the package was heavily customised. Maybe some bias >> favouring CUPS was introduced. But ff2 worked fine, so I am >> still not certain where the blame really lies. > I'd say to file a bug against libgtk2.0-0 and see

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > I installed the gtk stuff in that way and I do have the entries > > you listed. But I don't seem to have the same printer entries > > in about:config. > > > > I have put > > > > print.print_printer user_set string lpr >

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/07/08 09:14, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > Anthony Campbell wrote: >> Mumia M. wrote: >>> I also created a startup script for firefox that sets >>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the 'lib' directory where gtk+2.10's >>> binaries are installed, e.g.: > >>> #!/

Re: Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

Anthony Campbell wrote: > Mumia M. wrote: >> I also created a startup script for firefox that sets >> LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the 'lib' directory where gtk+2.10's >> binaries are installed, e.g.: >> #!/bin/sh >> #-firefox-3.0.sh- >> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/exotic/lib >> ex

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

Anthony Campbell wrote: > I installed the gtk stuff in that way and I do have the entries > you listed. But I don't seem to have the same printer entries > in about:config. > > I have put > > print.print_printer user_set string lpr > > which doesn't seem to work. I can't see options for your

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On 07 Jul 2008, Mumia W.. wrote: > On 07/07/2008 04:12 AM, Anthony Campbell wrote: >> On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: >>> [ good advice snipped ] >> >> It didn't work here. I did the same thing and the appropriate stuff in >> /usr/local but I still can't print. Did you do something to mak

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > Anthony Campbell wrote: > > On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > > >> I compiled by just "./configure", "make", without setting any > >> options. So by default gtk does not have a cups print > >> backend, only "lpr" and "file" (when compiled on a

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On 07/07/2008 04:12 AM, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: [ good advice snipped ] It didn't work here. I did the same thing and the appropriate stuff in /usr/local but I still can't print. Did you do something to make FF see the gtk-2.10 stuff? Anthony I di

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: >> I compiled by just "./configure", "make", without setting any >> options. So by default gtk does not have a cups print >> backend, only "lpr" and "file" (when compiled on a cups-less >> system, I presume). The Debian version ha

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Indeed. Very strange. And I even have it installed. But ff3 can > print to lpr only when I install the compiled-from-source version > of 2.10 (in /usr/local). As soon as I uninstall it, lpr printing > on ff3 becomes unavailable. >

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On 06 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Huh *Using* CUPS is as difficult as rolling off a log. > > - -- It's some time since I used CUPS so perhaps it's easier to set up now than it was then. But lpr + magicfilter doesn't need you to climb on the log at all. I just run "magicfilterconfig

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/06/08 15:06, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: >> I'll just mention the follow-up. I just tried installing gtk+-2.10 >> (compiling source from http://www.gtk.org/) and indeed, "print to >> lpr" now appears in the print dialog.

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jul 06 11:10 -0500]: > Where did you read this? I resize pictures, and they don't turn > into black rectangles. Unless what I'm thinking of isn't what > "they" are talking about... I wonder if it's the effect I noticed during the first day or so of runnin

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jul 06 18:19 -0500]: > So, I *can* and *do* unequivocally affirm that *using* CUPS is an > simple as rolling off a log. I concur. So long as a PPD file is available for a given printer, CUPS has worked like a hose for me. I fought printcaps and filters fo

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/08 16:19, s. keeling wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On 07/06/08 02:49, Anthony Campbell wrote: >>> 4. because, in the light of the above, using it will involve me in a >>> fair amount of work for no clear benefit and possibly a

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 07/06/08 02:49, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > > 4. because, in the light of the above, using it will involve me in a > > fair amount of work for no clear benefit and possibly a worse output. > > Huh *Using* CUPS is as difficult as rolling off a log.

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/08 15:06, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > I'll just mention the follow-up. I just tried installing gtk+-2.10 > (compiling source from http://www.gtk.org/) and indeed, "print to > lpr" now appears in the print dialog. Without cups or xprint. Just >

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

I'll just mention the follow-up. I just tried installing gtk+-2.10 (compiling source from http://www.gtk.org/) and indeed, "print to lpr" now appears in the print dialog. Without cups or xprint. Just lprng. So as soon as gtk+-2.10 appears in Sid, this problem will be over. Regards, Jan -- To UN

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/08 12:47, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 07/06/08 09:59, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > >>> You are right IMHO; it is a bug, not just the Inevitable >>> March Of Progress. It seems clear that the Firefox developers >>>

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

Ron Johnson wrote: > On 07/06/08 09:59, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: >> You are right IMHO; it is a bug, not just the Inevitable >> March Of Progress. It seems clear that the Firefox developers >> did not intend to drop lpr support: >> - they don't say anything about such a change in the Release >

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/08 09:59, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > On 06 Jul 2008, Anthony Campbell wrote: >> On 05 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> What is the reason that you don't install CUPS? > >> 1. because lpr/lpd and magicfilter work perfectly for me. >> 2. becau

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/08 02:49, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 05 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: >> What is the reason that you don't install CUPS? >> > > 1. because lpr/lpd and magicfilter work perfectly for me. > > 2. because CUPS offers no advantage for me. Unt

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On 06 Jul 2008, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 05 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: >> What is the reason that you don't install CUPS? > 1. because lpr/lpd and magicfilter work perfectly for me. > 2. because CUPS offers no advantage for me. > 3. because when I did use it in the past my output was slightl

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

On 05 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > > What is the reason that you don't install CUPS? > 1. because lpr/lpd and magicfilter work perfectly for me. 2. because CUPS offers no advantage for me. 3. because when I did use it in the past my output was slightly worse than with my existing setup.

Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/05/08 02:07, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 03 Jul 2008, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/03/08 09:12, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 03 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: I just reinstalled version 3.0 and this time th

CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/05/08 02:07, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 03 Jul 2008, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> >>> On 07/03/08 09:12, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 03 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: >> I just reinstalled version 3.0 and this time the

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

On 03 Jul 2008, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 07/03/08 09:12, Anthony Campbell wrote: >>> On 03 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > I just reinstalled version 3.0 and this time the BBC was working, so I > don't know why i

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

Anthony Campbell wrote: On 03 Jul 2008, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/08 09:12, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 03 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: I just reinstalled version 3.0 and this time the BBC was working, so I don't know why

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/08 06:21, Anthony Campbell wrote: Well, I struggled with iceweasel 3.0 from Sid for a week but have now given up. First, printing no longer worked (see earlier posts). I got it to work, sort of, by using inotifywait and p

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

On 03 Jul 2008, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 07/03/08 09:12, Anthony Campbell wrote: >>> On 03 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > I just reinstalled version 3.0 and this time the BBC was working, so I > don't know why i

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/08 09:12, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 03 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: I just reinstalled version 3.0 and this time the BBC was working, so I don't know why it was crashing previously - perhaps something had gone wrong wit

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/08 09:12, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 03 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> I just reinstalled version 3.0 and this time the BBC was working, so I >>> don't know why it was crashing previously - perhaps something had gone >>> wrong with the ori

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

On 03 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > > I just reinstalled version 3.0 and this time the BBC was working, so I > > don't know why it was crashing previously - perhaps something had gone > > wrong with the original download. > > > > The printing problem remains. I think it is related to the fact tha

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/08 08:50, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 03 Jul 2008, David Goodenough wrote: >> On Thursday 03 July 2008, Anthony Campbell wrote: >>> Well, I struggled with iceweasel 3.0 from Sid for a week but have now >>> given up. First, printing no longer

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/08 08:51, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 03 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> While I have no doubt that you are having problems, neither of those >> issues are happening to me. My printer (blandly named "lp"

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

On 03 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > While I have no doubt that you are having problems, neither of those > issues are happening to me. My printer (blandly named "lp") shows > up in the Print dialog box, and have RealPlayer 10.0.9-0.1 installed > from debian-mu

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

On 03 Jul 2008, David Goodenough wrote: > On Thursday 03 July 2008, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > Well, I struggled with iceweasel 3.0 from Sid for a week but have now > > given up. First, printing no longer worked (see earlier posts). I got it > > to work, sort of, by using inotifywait and printing

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

On Thursday 03 July 2008, Anthony Campbell wrote: > Well, I struggled with iceweasel 3.0 from Sid for a week but have now > given up. First, printing no longer worked (see earlier posts). I got it > to work, sort of, by using inotifywait and printing the mozilla.ps file > but it wasn't a good solut

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/08 06:21, Anthony Campbell wrote: > Well, I struggled with iceweasel 3.0 from Sid for a week but have now > given up. First, printing no longer worked (see earlier posts). I got it > to work, sort of, by using inotifywait and printing the mozi

Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

Well, I struggled with iceweasel 3.0 from Sid for a week but have now given up. First, printing no longer worked (see earlier posts). I got it to work, sort of, by using inotifywait and printing the mozilla.ps file but it wasn't a good solution. Then I found I could no longer listent to the BBC: at