Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-19 Thread ajm
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 04:53:02AM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > George writes: > > > Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, > > can be manipulated entirely with the keyboard (although it also has > > complete mouse support), can be customized extremely easily (alth

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-15 Thread Erwan David
On 16/11/2011 07:13, George wrote: On 11/15/11, Harry Putnam wrote: Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, can be manipulated entirely with the keyboard (although it also has complete mouse support), can be customized extremely easily (although the defaults are

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-15 Thread George
On 11/15/11, Victor Nitu wrote: > On 11/15/2011 08:42 AM, George wrote: >> Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, >> can be manipulated entirely with the keyboard (although it also has >> complete mouse support), can be customized extremely easily (although >> the

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-15 Thread George
On 11/15/11, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, >> can be manipulated entirely with the keyboard (although it also has >> complete mouse support), can be customized extremely easily (although >> the defaults are sane so it is by no means

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-15 Thread Jochen Spieker
Victor Nitu: > On 11/15/2011 08:42 AM, George wrote: > >> Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, >> can be manipulated entirely with the keyboard (although it also has >> complete mouse support), can be customized extremely easily (although >> the defaults are sane s

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-15 Thread Victor Nitu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/15/2011 08:42 AM, George wrote: > Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, > can be manipulated entirely with the keyboard (although it also has > complete mouse support), can be customized extremely easily (although

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-15 Thread Harry Putnam
George writes: > Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, > can be manipulated entirely with the keyboard (although it also has > complete mouse support), can be customized extremely easily (although > the defaults are sane so it is by no means necessary to customize

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-14 Thread George
> On 11/15/2011 02:00 AM, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: > IceWM is maybe the best (still friendly) choice for the system > described, but LXDE can help a great deal if you are not the > customize-everything kind of user. Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, can be mani

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-14 Thread Victor Nitu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/15/2011 02:00 AM, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: > I set up a similar machine, with 256MB ram, recently and when I tried > LXDE and used iceweasel with more than one tab, I remember it seemed to > be swapping to disk (some? a lot? can't remember, but

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 14 nov 11, 18:00:34, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: > > I set up a similar machine, with 256MB ram, recently and when I tried > LXDE and used iceweasel with more than one tab, I remember it seemed to > be swapping to disk (some? a lot? can't remember, but enough to make > me change the de/wm).

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-14 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
Andrei POPESCU, 14.11.2011: > > LXDE in squeeze is still usable on a PII-333 MHz with 256 MB RAM and 6GB > HDD and if this is not enough one can very easily not install a DE and > use one of the many Window Managers or just run the computer text only. I set up a similar machine, with 256MB ram,

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 14 nov 11, 14:12:12, Iuri Guilherme dos Santos Martins wrote: > > It is a very limited idea the developers of the distros (including > Debain itself) have that people from all over the world follow this > pattern (-My computer is old, I'm going to throw it on the garbage > an buy a new one)

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-14 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:13:42 -0300, Iuri Guilherme dos Santos Martins wrote: > Em 12-11-2011 17:57, Walter Hurry escreveu: >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:13:49 -0500, Doug wrote: >> >>> I seem to recall that this Gnome3 and Unity first came from Ubuntu. >> Unity did. GNOME3 has no origin in Ubuntu. >>

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-14 Thread Iuri Guilherme dos Santos Martins
Em 12-11-2011 17:57, Walter Hurry escreveu: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:13:49 -0500, Doug wrote: I seem to recall that this Gnome3 and Unity first came from Ubuntu. Unity did. GNOME3 has no origin in Ubuntu. Yes, Unity is still using gtk2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-14 Thread Iuri Guilherme dos Santos Martins
Em 12-11-2011 15:51, Joe escreveu: I wouldn't know, my two-year-old Gigabyte MB is apparently too old for Gnome 3. According to the Gnome site: 'It is our primary focus to build a modern operating environment, platform, and user experience. It doesn't make sense to target the hardware of the pas

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-14 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 12/11/11 17:58, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Patrick Wiseman wrote: Hi, all: What an appalling piece of crap is GNOME3! (IMNSHO anyway.) Well I wouldn't be so strict. I think many people will eventually like it. But I agree that personally I just don't likr it, preferring certain 'traditional'

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-13 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:51:58 +, Joe wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:08:44 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >> >> (...) >> >> > Perhaps others who dislike GNOME3 (does anyone not??) >> >> Hum... it's not GNOME3 but gnome-shell wh

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-12 Thread Nate Bargmann
I updated my Wheezy box this morning and it updated to GNOME Shell. After using it for an hour or so, it isn't so bad as to be unusable. Despite my comments about it a week or so ago, I think I'll give it a go for a while and see how it improves when 3.2.x finally migrates in. I did like that it p

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-12 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:13:49 -0500, Doug wrote: > I seem to recall that this Gnome3 and Unity first came from Ubuntu. Unity did. GNOME3 has no origin in Ubuntu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-12 Thread Doug
On 11/12/2011 12:38 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:25:21 +0100, Erwan David wrote: On 12/11/11 18:22, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:14:37 -0600, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: (...) And more general, how can I customize gnome 3. I found one "advances tweak" appli

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-12 Thread Joe
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:08:44 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > (...) > > > Perhaps others who dislike GNOME3 (does anyone not??) > > Hum... it's not GNOME3 but gnome-shell what you don't like. > I wouldn't know, my two-year-old Gig

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-12 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:29:58 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Samstag, 12. November 2011 schrieb Camaleón: >> > FRom what I read, just consider gnome 3.0 as a pre-alpha... >> >> Although probably GNOME developers don't like that term, I'd say "sort >> of", yes. > > How do I remember quite s

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-12 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 12. November 2011 schrieb Camaleón: > > FRom what I read, just consider gnome 3.0 as a pre-alpha... > > Although probably GNOME developers don't like that term, I'd say "sort > of", yes. How do I remember quite some of this and other points from this thread from the introduction of

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-12 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:25:21 +0100, Erwan David wrote: > On 12/11/11 18:22, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:14:37 -0600, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: (...) >>> And more general, how can I customize gnome 3. I found one "advances >>> tweak" application, but what one can do is ver

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-12 Thread Erwan David
On 12/11/11 18:22, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:14:37 -0600, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > >> see inline below. >> >> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:08, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >>> >>> (...) >>> Perhaps others who dislike

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-12 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:14:37 -0600, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > see inline below. > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:08, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >> >> (...) >> >>> Perhaps others who dislike GNOME3 (does anyone not??) >> >> Hum... it's n

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-12 Thread Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen
see inline below. On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:08, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > (...) > >> Perhaps others who dislike GNOME3 (does anyone not??) > > Hum... it's not GNOME3 but gnome-shell what you don't like. > > And nope, as soon as I can customi

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-12 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: (...) > Perhaps others who dislike GNOME3 (does anyone not??) Hum... it's not GNOME3 but gnome-shell what you don't like. And nope, as soon as I can customize some of the basics of the shell I'm fine. At the end of the day what I hav

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Patrick Wiseman wrote: Hi, all: What an appalling piece of crap is GNOME3! (IMNSHO anyway.) So I installed xfce4 (the metapackage which installs all the basics and some extras). Xfce session then shows up as an option on the login screen. When I logged in, the new Xfce panel asked me if I wa

GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-12 Thread Patrick Wiseman
Hi, all: What an appalling piece of crap is GNOME3! (IMNSHO anyway.) So I installed xfce4 (the metapackage which installs all the basics and some extras). Xfce session then shows up as an option on the login screen. When I logged in, the new Xfce panel asked me if I wanted to migrate from an o