Le 3/3/25 à 16:40, Greg Wooledge a écrit :
On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 15:44:11 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote:
dpkg won't install missing dependencies.
gdebi will.
So will apt-get and apt. It's just undocumented.
apt install ./filename.deb
apt-get install ./filename.deb
The pathname MUST begin
On 03/03/2025 11:49, Steven Speek wrote:
I would like this feature in apt-get.
Counter Proposal: Ask whomever is providing you the packge, to offer it
as a Debian Repository. That way, your custom application is just a
"extrepo enable " away.
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On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 15:44:11 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote:
> Le 3/3/25 à 15:25, Joe a écrit :
> > You can install any random .deb package from any source using dpkg [...]
>
> dpkg won't install missing dependencies.
> gdebi will.
So will apt-get and apt. It's just undocumented.
apt install
Le 3/3/25 à 15:25, Joe a écrit :
You can also compile software source code[...]> This is not a trivial task.
I find configure, make, sudo make install often very simple.
So I'd say it depends on the software.
Sometimes you're missing header files,
in which case configure kindly shows you exac
On 3/3/25 15:42, Yassine Chaouche wrote:
Le 3/3/25 à 15:25, Joe a écrit :
You can also compile software source code[...]> This is not a trivial
task.
I find configure, make, sudo make install often very simple.
So I'd say it depends on the software.
Sometimes you're missing header files,
in
Le 3/3/25 à 15:25, Joe a écrit :
You can install any random .deb package from any source using dpkg [...]
dpkg won't install missing dependencies.
gdebi will.
Best,
--
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http://about.me/ychaouche
Looking for side gigs.
On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 8:22 AM Alex Mestiashvili
wrote:
>
> On 3/3/25 12:49, Steven Speek wrote:
> > I would like this feature in apt-get.
>
> This is a disaster feature from my point of view. Debian packages are
> installed with root privileges, however, many systems are configured to
> allow use
On 3/3/25 7:10 AM, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 12:49:11PM +0100, Steven Speek wrote:
I would like this feature in apt-get.
Since this is just a mailing list of Debian users, no one here is
empowered to do what you ask.
The proper procedure would be to report it as a wishlis
On 3/3/25 5:49 AM, Steven Speek wrote:
I would like this feature in apt-get.
Exactly *WHAT* feature??
You supply *NO* context.
Also this list is primarily user-to-user support.
On 3/3/25 6:56 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 06:14:40 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 3/3/25 5:49 AM, Steven Speek wrote:
I would like this feature in apt-get.
Exactly *WHAT* feature??
You supply *NO* context.
This is why I advise people NOT to put the de
On 3/3/25 12:49, Steven Speek wrote:
I would like this feature in apt-get.
This is a disaster feature from my point of view. Debian packages are
installed with root privileges, however, many systems are configured to
allow users to use sudo to install packages from configured and trusted
rep
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 12:49:11PM +0100, Steven Speek wrote:
> I would like this feature in apt-get.
Since this is just a mailing list of Debian users, no one here is
empowered to do what you ask.
The proper procedure would be to report it as a wishlist bug on apt-get
in the Debian bug trac
Le 3/3/25 à 13:14, Richard Owlett a écrit :
On 3/3/25 5:49 AM, Steven Speek wrote:
I would like this feature in apt-get.
Exactly *WHAT* feature??
You supply *NO* context.
Also this list is primarily user-to-user support.
Happy now?
Look how angry you made Steven Speek now.
On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 06:14:40 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 3/3/25 5:49 AM, Steven Speek wrote:
> > I would like this feature in apt-get.
> >
>
> Exactly *WHAT* feature??
> You supply *NO* context.
This is why I advise people NOT to put the details of their request only
in
Steven Speek wrote:
> I would like this feature in apt-get.
Until then, you can use wget to retrieve the URL and apt install
to install from the filename.
In general, this is rather dangerous, and should probably be
avoided. There may be better solutions, depending on the context
of where these
I would like this feature in apt-get.
On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 07:02:35AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
Train your brain and your fingers to move the rf to the end of the command so
that you _have_ to check what filename you are typing as you type it.
I set a shell alias
alias rm='echo use trash instead'
This was enough to t
On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 09:45:58AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 07:42:25PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > I list the files first:
> >
> > ls some-pattern
> >
> > then add a pipe to rm:
> >
> > ls some-pattern | rm
> >
> > or
> >
> > ls some-pattern | rm -rf
>
> Those co
On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 07:42:25PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> I list the files first:
>
> ls some-pattern
>
> then add a pipe to rm:
>
> ls some-pattern | rm
>
> or
>
> ls some-pattern | rm -rf
Those commands do not work. rm does not read a list of files from stdin.
Even if you were to add
On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 07:02:35AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> There are a couple of useful habits to get into when removing things:
>
> There's an
>
> rm -i
> Use the pwd command to check where you are in the
> filesystem. (It may be short for "print working
> directory").
> If you
On 6/24/2022 2:24 PM, David Wright wrote:
This strikes me as a nightmare waiting to happen.
There was probably a similar feeling when .deb and dpkg and apt rolled out.
I think you made this up. I'm sure there were some people who were
happy enough with Slackware when dpkg was evolving, but I ne
On Wed 22 Jun 2022 at 18:21:10 (-0400), Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> On 6/22/2022 5:22 PM, Charles Curley wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 16:25:02 -0400 Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> >
> > > Anyways it would be nice to do:
> > >
> > > apt install http://domain/filename.deb
> > This strikes me as a nightma
On Fri 24 Jun 2022 at 08:48:05 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, June 24, 2022 03:02:35 AM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > The last suggestion, and it's the simplest:
> >
> > rm [filename] -rf
> >
> > Train your brain and your fingers to move the rf to the end of the command
> > so th
On 6/24/2022 10:03 AM, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
To me anytime you need to use su or sudo to do something, you should
not think it is harmless, no matter how simple or easy.
Although all that being said, I remember a long time ago getting into a
situation with apt or dpkg (removing libc or ins
Hi Didier,
On 6/24/2022 4:36 AM, didier gaumet wrote:
Le jeudi 23 juin 2022 à 16:27 -0400, Bijan Soleymani a écrit :
rm wrongfile
how do I undelete?
better put deleted files in the "recycling box" and prompt users on
every deletion by default
rm -rf /
oops!
sigh...
Bijan
Hello,
Please o
On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 09:17:40AM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> On 6/24/2022 4:48 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 03:22:30PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> > > How do you handle dependencies where there is a version of the
> > > dependency on the server, and another versi
On 6/24/2022 4:01 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
On 22/06/2022 18:04, Person the human wrote:
I just want to get everyone's opinion on this before I request it
from the developers or possibly try to add it myself.
Would it be nice if it was possible to pass a URL to 'apt install' so
that a package
On 6/24/2022 4:48 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 03:22:30PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
How do you handle dependencies where there is a version of the
dependency on the server, and another version on a repo in the user's
sources.list? Multiple nested dependencies?
You don
On Friday, June 24, 2022 03:02:35 AM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> The last suggestion, and it's the simplest:
>
> rm [filename] -rf
>
> Train your brain and your fingers to move the rf to the end of the command
> so that you _have_ to check what filename you are typing as you type it.
>
> If you
Le jeudi 23 juin 2022 à 16:27 -0400, Bijan Soleymani a écrit :
>
> rm wrongfile
>
> how do I undelete?
>
> better put deleted files in the "recycling box" and prompt users on
> every deletion by default
>
> rm -rf /
>
> oops!
>
> sigh...
>
> Bijan
Hello,
Please open a new thread when y
On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 03:22:30PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
How do you handle dependencies where there is a version of the
dependency on the server, and another version on a repo in the user's
sources.list? Multiple nested dependencies?
You don't: just like "apt install ./foo.deb", apt take
On 22/06/2022 18:04, Person the human wrote:
I just want to get everyone's opinion on this before I request it from
the developers or possibly try to add it myself.
Would it be nice if it was possible to pass a URL to 'apt install' so
that a package could be installed without first downloadin
On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 04:27:28PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> On 6/23/2022 12:03 PM, Person the human wrote:
> > The easier something is to do, the more harmless people will think it
> > is, so you're right. Thanks.
>
> rm wrongfile
>
> how do I undelete?
>
> better put deleted files in the
On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 16:27:28 -0400
Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> better put deleted files in the "recycling box" and prompt users on
> every deletion by default
>
> rm -rf /
>
> oops!
Better yet, have proper backups.
https://charlescurley.com/blog/posts/2019/Nov/02/backups-on-linux/
--
Does any
Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> On 6/23/2022 12:03 PM, Person the human wrote:
> > The easier something is to do, the more harmless people will think it
> > is, so you're right. Thanks.
>
> rm wrongfile
>
> how do I undelete?
>
> better put deleted files in the "recycling box" and prompt users on ever
On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:34:41 -0230
Person the human wrote:
> Would it be nice if it was possible to pass a URL to 'apt install' so
> that a package could be installed without first downloading its .deb
> file? I think it's good because it can save time and prevent unneeded
> damage to SSDs. Even
On 6/23/2022 12:03 PM, Person the human wrote:
The easier something is to do, the more harmless people will think it
is, so you're right. Thanks.
rm wrongfile
how do I undelete?
better put deleted files in the "recycling box" and prompt users on
every deletion by default
rm -rf /
oops!
s
The easier something is to do, the more harmless people will think it is,
so you're right. Thanks.
On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 5:56 PM Dan Ritter wrote:
> Person the human wrote:
> > Having this feature won't help me personally since I'm not using an SSD
> and
> > I don't download packages from the
On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 06:21:10PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
[...]
> > This strikes me as a nightmare waiting to happen.
>
> There was probably a similar feeling when .deb and dpkg and apt rolled out.
> Users are going to have dependency issues, etc. If libc breaks on upgrade
> then everyth
On 6/22/2022 5:22 PM, Charles Curley wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 16:25:02 -0400
Bijan Soleymani wrote:
Anyways it would be nice to do:
apt install http://domain/filename.deb
too. Wonder if there's some optimal/convenient way to handle
dependencies if they're on the same server too.
How do yo
On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 16:25:02 -0400
Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> Anyways it would be nice to do:
>
> apt install http://domain/filename.deb
>
> too. Wonder if there's some optimal/convenient way to handle
> dependencies if they're on the same server too.
How do you handle dependencies where there
Person the human wrote:
> Having this feature won't help me personally since I'm not using an SSD and
> I don't download packages from the internet often. The reason I wanted this
> to be built into apt is so that websites that would normally link to a file
> and tell users to download it could in
On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 04:25:02PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> I think you can now do:
>
> apt install filename.deb
Close. It has to begin with / or ./ or ../ or else it won't be seen as
a filename.
apt install ./filename.deb
On 6/22/2022 1:04 PM, Person the human wrote:
I just want to get everyone's opinion on this before I request it from
the developers or possibly try to add it myself.
Would it be nice if it was possible to pass a URL to 'apt install' so
that a package could be installed without first downloadin
Having this feature won't help me personally since I'm not using an SSD and
I don't download packages from the internet often. The reason I wanted this
to be built into apt is so that websites that would normally link to a file
and tell users to download it could instead just give users a command t
On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:34:41 -0230
Person the human wrote:
> Would it be nice if it was possible to pass a URL to 'apt install' so
> that a package could be installed without first downloading its .deb
> file?
How do you install it without first pulling it in?
> I think it's good because it can
Person the human wrote:
> I just want to get everyone's opinion on this before I request it from the
> developers or possibly try to add it myself.
>
> Would it be nice if it was possible to pass a URL to 'apt install' so that
> a package could be installed without first downloading its .deb file
On Wed 22 Jun 2022 at 14:34:41 (-0230), Person the human wrote:
> I just want to get everyone's opinion on this before I request it from the
> developers or possibly try to add it myself.
>
> Would it be nice if it was possible to pass a URL to 'apt install' so that
> a package could be installed
I just want to get everyone's opinion on this before I request it from the
developers or possibly try to add it myself.
Would it be nice if it was possible to pass a URL to 'apt install' so that
a package could be installed without first downloading its .deb file? I
think it's good because it can
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