Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 08/02/18 01:22 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 08.02.18 08:42, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 01:36:41PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: [...] [...] Fastidious fusspotting on minor terminology matters [...] Yikes :-) May I steal this one when I need it badly? It's e

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 08/02/18 15:36, Erik Christiansen wrote: >> Please don't use "class B" to mean /16. Firstly, it's decades out of >> date, and secondly, that range was never in the class B section. > I'm decades out of date too, so it's apt. The intended audience can > probably discern the message that a broader

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 08.02.18 08:42, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 01:36:41PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > [...] > > > [...] Fastidious fusspotting on minor terminology matters [...] > > Yikes :-) > > May I steal this one when I need it badly? It's escaped now, so please feel free. He

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 01:36:41PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: [...] > [...] Fastidious fusspotting on minor terminology matters [...] Yikes :-) May I steal this one when I need it badly? Cheers - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 07.02.18 12:13, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 09:58:55PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > Michelle, that netmask is 0b1001 , which is > > the first I have ever seen with a hole in it. > > No, that would be 0111

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Wednesday 07 February 2018 07:09:59 Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 10:02:18AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > >However, the lead to the problem, that I need more then 256 IP > > addresses and since I do not want to install my own Linux router > > behind my 3G Gateway only

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 07/02/18 23:58, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 07.02.18 09:33, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Good morning, >> >> Am 2018-02-07 hackte Gene Heskett in die Tasten: >>> On Tuesday 06 February 2018 14:07:55 Brian wrote: 1. auto enp0s25 iface enp

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 2018-02-07, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Grmpf! -8°C and new snow over night! We have arround 50cm here. Not even > my Honda F400 (roten a replacment motor with 4,8kW) can cope with it. > Again a day inside! > They're predicting (I mean the cute lady who weather reports for France 2) -6°C for

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 10:02:18AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: However, the lead to the problem, that I need more then 256 IP addresses and since I do not want to install my own Linux router behind my 3G Gateway only to have 512 IP adresses or more, I decided to increaase the network with

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 10:22:56AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: "Defaults" looks in my eyes, it count for the private networks 10, 172 and 192.168 which is logic and the eleminating of the IP classes concern only PUBLIC IP addresses and NOT the three defined private ranges. How

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 09:58:55PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 07.02.18 09:33, Michelle Konzack wrote: [...] > > auto eth2 > > iface eth2 inet static > > address 192.168.4.12 > > netmask 255.255.127.0 > >

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 2018-02-07, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hi Curt, > > Am 2018-02-07 hackte Curt in die Tasten: >> On 2018-02-07, Michelle Konzack wrote: >>> The other thing is, I can not figure out, what gthumb is missing >>> and lead to a SEGFAULT at startup... >> >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cg

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 07.02.18 09:33, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Good morning, > > Am 2018-02-07 hackte Gene Heskett in die Tasten: > > On Tuesday 06 February 2018 14:07:55 Brian wrote: > >> 1. auto enp0s25 > >> iface enp0s25 inet > >> static address 192.168.0.

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Hi Curt, Am 2018-02-07 hackte Curt in die Tasten: > On 2018-02-07, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> The other thing is, I can not figure out, what gthumb is missing >> and lead to a SEGFAULT at startup... > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888568 Yeah, this is my one. > (So you ins

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 2018-02-07, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hi Richard, > > Am 2018-02-07 hackte Richard Hector in die Tasten: >> On 07/02/18 04:54, Michelle Konzack wrote: >>> Sorry, I ment dbus-x11 >> >> "apt-rdepends blueman" (you might want to install apt-rdepends) doesn't >> list dbus-x11 anywhere. If blueman r

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 07:07:55PM +, Brian wrote: > [...] reducing the number of moving parts should please someone: Touché ;-P Cheers - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlp6vFkACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYP

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Hello Michael, Am 2018-02-07 hackte Michael Stone in die Tasten: > Richard is correct here. The changelog is saying that the IF_NETMASK > environment variable will reflect the defaults even if they aren't > specified in the configuration (this differs from the documentation > which otherwise state

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: Brian > On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 20:23:13 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > The changelog says: > > * Calculate netmask internally, so even if a user haven't supplied > one or have used CIDR notation, hook scripts will have it properly > specified in IF_NETMA

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Hello Brian, Am 2018-02-07 hackte Brian in die Tasten: > On Wed 07 Feb 2018 at 13:42:04 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: >> The netmask line is an alternative to that. You need to tell it >> _somehow_ how big the subnet is. > > As a changelog from May 2012 says: > > * Calculate netmask internally, s

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Hi Richard, Am 2018-02-07 hackte Richard Hector in die Tasten: > On 07/02/18 04:54, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Sorry, I ment dbus-x11 > > "apt-rdepends blueman" (you might want to install apt-rdepends) doesn't > list dbus-x11 anywhere. If blueman really needs it, then either it or > one of its oth

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Hello Richard, Am 2018-02-07 hackte Richard Hector in die Tasten: > On 07/02/18 08:07, Brian wrote: >> netmask and network are not needed. ifupdown will compute them. Note >> there are no examples in interfaces(5) which use these parameters. > > The examples use CIDR notation instead, eg "address

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Hi, Am 2018-02-07 hackte Brian in die Tasten: > On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 17:06:36 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Tuesday 06 February 2018 14:07:55 Brian wrote: >> > >> > 1. auto enp0s25 >> > iface enp0s25 inet >> > static address 192.168.0.

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Good morning, Am 2018-02-07 hackte Gene Heskett in die Tasten: > On Tuesday 06 February 2018 14:07:55 Brian wrote: >> 1. auto enp0s25 >> iface enp0s25 inet >> static address 192.168.0.202 >> netmask 255.255.255.0 >> g

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Good morning, Am 2018-02-07 hackte Brian in die Tasten: > Would you post the URL(s) for the instructions you refer to. It is in the official install tutorial (Debian website) and they also suggested some free Windows tools to do this. I downloaded "rufus-2.18p.exe" to write the Iso to the USB St

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 01:26:05AM +, Brian wrote: On Wed 07 Feb 2018 at 13:42:04 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: The examples use CIDR notation instead, eg "address 192.168.1.1/24". The netmask line is an alternative to that. You need to tell it _somehow_ how big the subnet is. As a changel

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 07/02/18 14:29, Brian wrote: > On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 20:23:13 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 01:16:28AM +, Brian wrote: >>> On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 19:53:16 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: >>> On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 11:00:12PM +, Brian wrote: > On Tue 06 Fe

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 20:23:13 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 01:16:28AM +, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 19:53:16 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 11:00:12PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 17:06:36 -0500, Gene He

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Wed 07 Feb 2018 at 13:42:04 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > On 07/02/18 08:07, Brian wrote: > > netmask and network are not needed. ifupdown will compute them. Note > > there are no examples in interfaces(5) which use these parameters. > > The examples use CIDR notation instead, eg "address 192

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 01:16:28AM +, Brian wrote: On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 19:53:16 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 11:00:12PM +, Brian wrote: > On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 17:06:36 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 February 2018 14:07:55 Brian wrote: > > > > > >

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 19:53:16 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 11:00:12PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 17:06:36 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 06 February 2018 14:07:55 Brian wrote: > > > > > > > > 1. auto enp0s25 > > > >

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 07/02/18 04:54, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Sorry, I ment dbus-x11 "apt-rdepends blueman" (you might want to install apt-rdepends) doesn't list dbus-x11 anywhere. If blueman really needs it, then either it or one of its other dependencies is failing to declare it, which would be a bug. Richard

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 11:00:12PM +, Brian wrote: On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 17:06:36 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 06 February 2018 14:07:55 Brian wrote: > > 1. auto enp0s25 > iface enp0s25 inet > static address 192.168.0.202 >

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 07/02/18 08:07, Brian wrote: > netmask and network are not needed. ifupdown will compute them. Note > there are no examples in interfaces(5) which use these parameters. The examples use CIDR notation instead, eg "address 192.168.1.1/24". The netmask line is an alternative to that. You need to

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Tuesday 06 February 2018 18:00:12 Brian wrote: > On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 17:06:36 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 February 2018 14:07:55 Brian wrote: > > > 1. auto enp0s25 > > > iface enp0s25 > > > inet static address 192.168.0

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 17:11:03 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 05:06:36PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 February 2018 14:07:55 Brian wrote: > > > netmask and network are not needed. ifupdown will compute them. Note > > > there are no examples in interfaces(5) w

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 17:06:36 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 06 February 2018 14:07:55 Brian wrote: > > > > 1. auto enp0s25 > > iface enp0s25 inet > > static address 192.168.0.

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 05:06:36PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 06 February 2018 14:07:55 Brian wrote: > > netmask and network are not needed. ifupdown will compute them. Note > > there are no examples in interfaces(5) which use these parameters. > > > You should go and read that man pag

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Tuesday 06 February 2018 14:07:55 Brian wrote: > On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 09:01:21 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 06:58:50AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 06 February 2018 05:42:53 Michelle Konzack wrote: > > > > auto enp0s25 > > > > iface enp0s25 inet static

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Hello Michell, To try out, I just set up a new debian stretch on an VM (qemu/kvm): I used the netinstall CD, because I didn't want to download full DVDs. I had no problem configuring the network manually with ip-address and everything (only I didn't know exactly the addresses that are used by qem

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 15:53:24 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > I was following the instructions from the Debian Website and downloaded > a Windows tool, which extract the content of an ISO image and copy it > bootable on the USB Stick. > > The second DVD was copied into a subfolder DVD2/ > > I

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 09:01:21 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 06:58:50AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 February 2018 05:42:53 Michelle Konzack wrote: > > > auto enp0s25 > > > iface enp0s25 inet static > > > address 192.168.0.202 > > >

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Am 2018-02-06 hackte to...@tuxteam.de in die Tasten: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 05:54:08PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Sorry, I ment dbus-x11 > Ah, ok. No, it's not installed on my machine (I managed to avoid > dbus up to now). But since you are doing bluetooth stuff, you are > going to need

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 05:54:08PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: to...@tuxteam.de > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 03:53:24PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > >> Do you have glib-x11 installed on your system? > > > >

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Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: to...@tuxteam.de > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 03:53:24PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Do you have glib-x11 installed on your system? > > Hm. I don't find any library/package which has a similar name. I guess > you mean libglib, but I might guess wrong. Sorry,

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: Greg Wooledge > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 06:58:50AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Tuesday 06 February 2018 05:42:53 Michelle Konzack wrote: >> > allow-hotplug enp0s25 >> ^ >> Doesn't the above line belong ABOVE the iface line? It has been

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 09:01:21AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 06:58:50AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 February 2018 05:42:53 Michelle Konzack wrote: > > > auto enp0s25 > > > iface enp0s25 inet static > > >

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 09:18:20AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:03:15PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > If you install the bare minimum like > > > > Debian base > > xorg > > wdm > > fvwmg > > thumb > > blueman > > alsa >

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 03:53:24PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: to...@tuxteam.de > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:03:15PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > >> I do not know currently, except that blueman depends on

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:03:15PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > If you install the bare minimum like > > Debian base > xorg > wdm > fvwmg > thumb > blueman > alsa > mc > > you have a non-working system! Um, what? No. That's not correct. > yes, if you know, WHICH package you need, it can b

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 06:58:50AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 06 February 2018 05:42:53 Michelle Konzack wrote: > > auto enp0s25 > > iface enp0s25 inet static > > address 192.168.0.202 > > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > gateway 192.168.0.1 >

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: to...@tuxteam.de > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:03:15PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> I do not know currently, except that blueman depends on glib-x11 which >> is confirmed by the maintainer. It seems gthumb has the same dependency >> because sinde blueman

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On Tuesday 06 February 2018 05:42:53 Michelle Konzack wrote: > # Do not Cc: me, I am on THE LIST and I do not need > ## # messages twice which make it very hard to > answer. ## > > > Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: to...@tuxteam.de > > > This is all? No "lo

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:10:36PM +0100, john doe wrote: > On 2/6/2018 11:42 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: [...] > >[ /etc/network/interfaces.d/enp0s25 ]--- > >auto enp0s25 > >iface enp0s25 inet static > > addre

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:03:15PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > DO not Cc: me, I am on THE LIST and I do not need > messages twice which make it very hard to ansewer > > Hello Tomas, > > Am 2018-02-06 hackte to...@tuxteam.de i

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 2/6/2018 11:42 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: # Do not Cc: me, I am on THE LIST and I do not need ## # messages twice which make it very hard to answer. ## Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: to...@tuxteam.de This is all? No "lo" stanza? Hm. it is: auto

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

# Do not Cc: me, I am on THE LIST and I do not need ## # messages twice which make it very hard to answer. ## Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: to...@tuxteam.de > This is all? No "lo" stanza? Hm. it is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback > In that case, it lo

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: john doe > On 2/6/2018 10:27 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: john doe >>> - Are you using '/etc/network/interfaces' or >>> /etc/systemd/network/INT-NAME.network? >> >> I have removed systemd from Stretch! >> >>> - What is the

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 11:27:08AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: john doe > > - Are you using '/etc/network/interfaces' or > > /etc/systemd/network/INT-NAME.network? > > I have removed systemd from Stretch! > >

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 2/6/2018 10:27 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: john doe - Are you using '/etc/network/interfaces' or /etc/systemd/network/INT-NAME.network? I have removed systemd from Stretch! - What is the content of your interface file? auto enp0s25 iface enp0s25 inet

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

DO not Cc: me, I am on THE LIST and I do not need messages twice which make it very hard to ansewer Hello Tomas, Am 2018-02-06 hackte to...@tuxteam.de in die Tasten: >> I have installed on my ThinkPad T400 recently Stretch (base, xorg, wdm, >> fvwm, gthumb, blueman, alsa...)

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: john doe > - Are you using '/etc/network/interfaces' or > /etc/systemd/network/INT-NAME.network? I have removed systemd from Stretch! > - What is the content of your interface file? auto enp0s25 iface enp0s25 inet static address 192.168.0.202

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 10:50:48AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello *, Calm down. Try to structure your request. You see, you've got to help us help you :-) Now what's your problem: > I have installed on my ThinkPad T400 recently Stretch (base

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 2/6/2018 9:50 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello *, I have installed on my ThinkPad T400 recently Stretch (base, xorg, wdm, fvwm, gthumb, blueman, alsa...) only to discover, that 17 Packages have missing Dependencies! 11 Packages are now working and I try to figure out, WHICH depends are

Ethernet is not started at boot

Hello *, I have installed on my ThinkPad T400 recently Stretch (base, xorg, wdm, fvwm, gthumb, blueman, alsa...) only to discover, that 17 Packages have missing Dependencies! 11 Packages are now working and I try to figure out, WHICH depends are missing to write the appropriated Bug Reports.