Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-30 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 08:45:40AM -0700, mond wrote: > On Apr 30, 8:50 am, "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On 30/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 30/04/2008, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/30/08 10:45, mond wrote: [snip] > > Anyway, sid is stable enough, I think, if you don't dist-upgrade > everyday. Yup... Desire to be able to read my email from the console (occasional X bugs in Sid was one impetus for this) are why I originall

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-30 Thread mond
On Apr 30, 8:50 am, "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 30/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:56:49 -0500 > > > "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 30/04/2008, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > U

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-30 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
On 30/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:56:49 -0500 > > "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 30/04/2008, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Unstable means that it's changing frequently *NOT* that it's more likely > > > to

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-30 Thread Micha
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:56:49 -0500 "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 30/04/2008, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unstable means that it's changing frequently *NOT* that it's more likely > > to crash. > > Then why does it crash more in my anecdotal and unsci

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-30 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
On 30/04/2008, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unstable means that it's changing frequently *NOT* that it's more likely > to crash. Then why does it crash more in my anecdotal and unscientific experience? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 04:30:52PM -0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually i recommend sid to everyone except for servers where stable is more > > suitable. > > You must enjoy debugging a lot, then. Sid really *is* unstable, like > its

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-29 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
On 29/04/2008, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't worry about the bugs and crashes. Oh, then enjoy sid. :-) - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-29 Thread mond
On Apr 28, 8:00 pm, "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:30:52 -0500 > > > "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Actually i

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 28/04/2008, Rich Healey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But how does the distribution advance if *NOONE* runs testing/unstable? > > Oh, it's great that people are running both of those, and I run them > too, but we're

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
On 28/04/2008, Rich Healey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But how does the distribution advance if *NOONE* runs testing/unstable? Oh, it's great that people are running both of those, and I run them too, but we're essentially beta testers. I do my best to send timely bug reports when I can, or be as

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Actually i recommend sid to everyone except for servers where stable is more >> suitable. > > You must enjoy debugging a lot, then. Sid really *is* unstable, like > i

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:30:52 -0500 > > "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Actually i recommend sid to everyone except for servers where stable is > more > > > suitab

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread Micha
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:30:52 -0500 "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually i recommend sid to everyone except for servers where stable is more > > suitable. > > You must enjoy debugging a lot, then. Sid really *is* unsta

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread mond
On Apr 28, 2:10 pm, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 10:30:42PM -0700, mond wrote: > > On Apr 27, 10:50 pm, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 07:31:04PM -0700, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > > > heard to say: > > > > > 1. I think

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually i recommend sid to everyone except for servers where stable is more > suitable. You must enjoy debugging a lot, then. Sid really *is* unstable, like its name sounds, and like we can witness with Mond and with me. Newer software is hardly

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread Micha
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:27:25 -0500 "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 28/04/2008, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > mond wrote: > > > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently. > > > > > > Jordi writes: > > > Of course it does. It's sid

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread mond
On Apr 26, 9:20 pm, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in > Debian very well. > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently. > > The problem is that the screen just get dark. And "ctrl+alt+backspace" > doesn't wor

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 10:30:42PM -0700, mond wrote: > On Apr 27, 10:50 pm, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 07:31:04PM -0700, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > > heard to say: > > > > > 1. I think it is all about X( form the log you can tell). The system > > > i

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread John Hasler
Jordi writes: > Well, it's been about two days since it crashed over here. What crashed? The kernel? X? Your "desktop environment"? > I'd file a bug report, but I don't know exactly how to make it crash, and > since it keeps moving, well, living on sid is an adventure all around, > not for the

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
On 28/04/2008, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mond wrote: > > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently. > > > Jordi writes: > > Of course it does. It's sid. > > > It's been many years since Sid has crashed here. Well, it's been about two days since it c

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread John Hasler
mond wrote: > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently. Jordi writes: > Of course it does. It's sid. It's been many years since Sid has crashed here. > If you don't like bugs, don't use sid. Seems to me that he is just trying to discuss the problem so that he can fix it a

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
On 26/04/2008, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently. Of course it does. It's sid. If you don't like bugs, don't use sid. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread mond
On Apr 28, 10:20 am, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 28, 2:00 am, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 04/27/08 22:42, mond wrote: > > > > On Apr 26, 9:20 pm, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I am almost new to De

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-28 Thread mond
On Apr 28, 2:00 am, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/27/08 22:42, mond wrote: > > > > > On Apr 26, 9:20 pm, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in > >> Debian very

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/27/08 22:42, mond wrote: > On Apr 26, 9:20 pm, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in >> Debian very well. >> However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently. >> >>

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-27 Thread mond
On Apr 27, 10:50 pm, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 07:31:04PM -0700, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard > to say: > > > 1. I think it is all about X( form the log you can tell). The system > > is not down. I don,t have another computer home. So I can not ssh w

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-27 Thread mond
On Apr 26, 9:20 pm, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in > Debian very well. > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently. > > The problem is that the screen just get dark. And "ctrl+alt+backspace" > doesn't wor

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-27 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 07:31:04PM -0700, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > 1. I think it is all about X( form the log you can tell). The system > is not down. I don,t have another computer home. So I can not ssh when > it crashes. But I will test it in office if it crashes. > 2. The i

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-27 Thread mond
On Apr 26, 9:20 pm, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in > Debian very well. > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently. > > The problem is that the screen just get dark. And "ctrl+alt+backspace" > doesn't wor

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-27 Thread Micha
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:50:32 -0700 Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 10:00:03PM -0700, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard > to say: > > Apr 26 23:28:41 Pavilion acpid: received event "ac_adapter ACAD > > 0001" > > Apr 26 23:28:41 Pavilion acpid: notif

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-27 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 10:00:03PM -0700, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Apr 26 23:28:41 Pavilion acpid: received event "ac_adapter ACAD > 0001" > Apr 26 23:28:41 Pavilion acpid: notifying client 2612[106:111] > Apr 26 23:28:41 Pavilion acpid: notifying client 2720[0:0]

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-27 Thread Kim N. Lesmer
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:45:49 -0700 (PDT) mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 26, 11:30 pm, "Kim N. Lesmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:50:09 -0700 (PDT) > > > > mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work > > >

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-27 Thread Simon Brandmair
Good morning, On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:10:12 +0200 mond wrote: > On Apr 26, 11:30 pm, "Kim N. Lesmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:50:09 -0700 (PDT) >> >> mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently. >> >> > The problem

Re: Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-27 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
> * From: mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >It just freeze. But I can not do nothing, so I push the power button. >Apr 26 23:28:41 Pavilion acpid: executing action "/etc/acpi/power.sh" >Apr 26 23:29:01 Pavilion acpid: executing action >"/etc/acpi/powerbtn-acpi-support.sh" >Apr 26 23:29:01 Pavilion shu

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-26 Thread mond
On Apr 26, 11:30 pm, "Kim N. Lesmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:50:09 -0700 (PDT) > > mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in > > Debian very well. > > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and fre

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-26 Thread mond
On Apr 26, 11:30 pm, "Kim N. Lesmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:50:09 -0700 (PDT) > > mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in > > Debian very well. > > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and fre

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-26 Thread Kim N. Lesmer
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:50:09 -0700 (PDT) mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in > Debian very well. > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently. > > The problem is that the screen just get dark. And "ctrl+alt+b

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-26 Thread mond
On Apr 26, 9:40 pm, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 06:50:09PM -0700, mond wrote: > > I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in > > Debian very well. > > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently. > > > The problem is

Re: Debian crash randomly

2008-04-26 Thread Alex Samad
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 06:50:09PM -0700, mond wrote: > I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in > Debian very well. > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently. > > The problem is that the screen just get dark. And "ctrl+alt+backspace" > doesn't

Debian crash randomly

2008-04-26 Thread mond
I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in Debian very well. However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently. The problem is that the screen just get dark. And "ctrl+alt+backspace" doesn't work. "Ctrl +alt+f1" doesn't work either. So I just wonder if the