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Your final statement makes me curious about learning Dvorak.
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On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 11:37 Russell L. Harris wrote:
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On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 04:48:19PM +0800, hlyg wrote:
On 7/21/24 02:33, Russell L. Harris wrote:
The same reasons the standard typewriter keyboard is QWERTY rather
than Dvorak:
= The precedent set by the first to market is powerful.
= The influence of advertising upon a populace lacking in
I installed release 11.2 for amd64. In the installer, I asked for the
Dvorak keymap and XFCE desktop. After a successful install, I used
Applications Menu > Settings > Keyboard and then > Variants to select
the "Classic" Dvorak keymap.
The change was not effective, even a
On 03/19/2012 10:17 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote:
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 15:52, Wayne Topa wrote:
On 03/19/2012 02:01 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote:
There should be no confusion as the answer is on the OP's system.
apt-cache show console setup
console-setup is a program, not a tutorial on termino
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 15:52, Wayne Topa wrote:
> On 03/19/2012 02:01 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> There should be no confusion as the answer is on the OP's system.
>
> apt-cache show console setup
console-setup is a program, not a tutorial on terminology...
Cheers,
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On 03/19/2012 02:01 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote:
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 07:39, lina wrote:
But things get weired, everything is normal on the tty terminal, but
on console (hope it's the right name for it).
Setting aside the rest for the moment, we should clarify terminology.
When you log in w
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 07:39, lina wrote:
> But things get weired, everything is normal on the tty terminal, but
> on console (hope it's the right name for it).
Setting aside the rest for the moment, we should clarify terminology.
When you log in without a GUI, or switch to them with ctrl-alt
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:39 PM, lina wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As suggested from list, I switched to dvorak months ago.
>
> But the console (namely Ctrl+F1,F2...) still used the old way, I mean
> QREWT way.
>
> Following the http://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard
>
> dpkg-reco
Hi,
As suggested from list, I switched to dvorak months ago.
But the console (namely Ctrl+F1,F2...) still used the old way, I mean
QREWT way.
Following the http://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard
dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
I set it to dvorak
# dpkg-reconfigure console-data
Looking for
gh?
That is why they put (the QWERTY) labels on keycaps. ;-)
> > > I wondered about dvorak for a long time but never took the faith to
> > > actually really try it out for me. Especially cause of the fear not
> > > to be able to use standard mappings anymore should they
out nicely enough?
>>
>> I've been typing in dvorak (actually bépo, which is a french dvorak
>> layout) for about a year and a half now, and I'm still able to type in
>> qwertz as fast as before. I'm using bépo at work (I work as a
>> programmer) and qwe
Am Mittwoch, 8. Februar 2012 schrieb Sylvain:
> On 08. 02. 12 09:41, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
[…]
> > How does it work when you have to use a qwert(zy) keymapping
> > sometimes? Would that still work out nicely enough?
>
> I've been typing in dvorak (actually bépo
On 08. 02. 12 09:41, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Now I always thought I need to exchange keycaps to actually use and learn
dvorak. It seems to be possible with my ThinkPad keyboards and the other
keyboards I have, but now I learn that its not even necessary.
Not only it's unnecessary, but
Am Montag, 6. Februar 2012 schrieb lina:
[... nice and long essay dvorak layout ...]
> > Actually, one of the best things about the combination of
> > QWERTY-labeled keycaps and software mapping to the Dvorak layout is
> > that other people in the office quickly learn not t
rences -> keyboard ->
>> > layouts menu to select "USA Dvorak" (a regrettable compromise) or "USA
>> > Classic Dvorak" (the original and best).
>> >
>> > Just use whatever keyboard you presently are using. Print out a copy
>> > o
* Arnt Karlsen [120205 23:54]:
> On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 16:37:47 +, Russell wrote in message
> <20120204163747.GC2339@cromwell.tmiaf>:
>
> > >From the Gnome desktop, use the system -> preferences -> keyboard ->
> > layouts menu to select "US
On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 16:37:47 +, Russell wrote in message
<20120204163747.GC2339@cromwell.tmiaf>:
> * lina [120204 16:12]:
> >
> > How do I start the dvorak?
> > sorry I just started finishing reading the wikipage about dvorak.
>
>
> >From the Gnome
lina wrote at 2012-02-04 10:51 -0600:
> I am under xfce4, on the keyboard layout, I can't find the options
> contains the word Dvorak.
Have you tried the xfce4-xkb-plugin package?
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> * lina [120204 16:12]:
>>
>> How do I start the dvorak?
>> sorry I just started finishing reading the wikipage about dvorak.
>
>
> From the Gnome desktop, use the system -> preferences -> keyboard -&g
* lina [120204 16:12]:
>
> How do I start the dvorak?
> sorry I just started finishing reading the wikipage about dvorak.
>From the Gnome desktop, use the system -> preferences -> keyboard ->
layouts menu to select "USA Dvorak" (a regrettable compromise) or &qu
d home row.
Yes, on referring to the companies themselves for information, I've found
that many don't know much about their own product.
The Australian agent for one brand states that they don't make a keyboard
that caters for Dvorak, while the manufacturer says that there's not a
proble
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 07:40, Weaver wrote:
> Yes, it raises the point that some manufacturers achieve their hardware
> height and profile, not from the keyboard base, but from the different
> heights of keys on the different rows of a Qwerty.
>
My current keyboard is built like that, each row o
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 00:47, Dan Serban wrote:
> If not using your own hardware, would that not be a detriment
> after getting used to the MS Natural keyboard?
>
Not at all. The R in RSI is "repetitive", and the key to healing is to
reduce repetitive tasks. So regularly switching keyboards help
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:46:47 -0800
> "Weaver" wrote:
>> >From investigations so far.
>> Advice from Daskeyboards support:
>>
>> "Thanks for your interest in Das Keyboard!
>>
>> The physical key caps cannot be rearranged into the Dvo
;> >> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing
> >> keyboard
>
> >From investigations so far.
> Advice from Daskeyboards support:
>
> "Thanks for your interest in Das Keyboard!
>
> The physical key caps cannot be rearranged into th
* Weaver [120112 02:56]:
> Hello all.
> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
> moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
> keyboard into
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:07:44 +
Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 10 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote:
> > > That site is down at present.
> > >
> > > My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
> > > typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
> > > QW
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:15:19 +0100
Andreas Weber wrote:
> > My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
> > typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
> > QWERTY keyboard?
>
> No, it's not. Only if you always work on your own hardware. But as s
On 10 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote:
> > That site is down at present.
> >
> > My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
> > typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
> > QWERTY keyboard?
> >
> >
>
> Well, I hope the site has become available
> My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
> typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
> QWERTY keyboard?
No, it's not. Only if you always work on your own hardware. But as soon
as you have to touch different machines ... QWERT is everywhere
board
>From investigations so far.
Advice from Daskeyboards support:
"Thanks for your interest in Das Keyboard!
The physical key caps cannot be rearranged into the Dvorak layout because
each row has a different height and curvature, so keys on the QWERTY row
would not feel right when mixed with key
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:06:48 +0200
Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi wrote:
> > On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> >> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
> >
> > How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM key
e of the
> > > greater typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have
> > > even delayed moving from two finger typing with an idea of
> > > implementing a Dvorak keyboard into the system.
> >
> > While I don't want to start a flame war, I&
> Hi Weaver,
>
> If you are curious about keyboard layouts then you might really enjoy
> Dvorak. I have used Dvorak for about 8 years. It takes a while to get
> rolling, but it has definitely been worth it. I feel like typing is a
> much smoother activity now, and touch typing i
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 19:35, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
> typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
> QWERTY keyboard?
>
Probably not. Some people cite speed, others comfort as a reason. I'll
tell you
Hi Weaver,
If you are curious about keyboard layouts then you might really enjoy
Dvorak. I have used Dvorak for about 8 years. It takes a while to get
rolling, but it has definitely been worth it. I feel like typing is a
much smoother activity now, and touch typing is easier.
When I started out
and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
>> > moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
>> > keyboard into the system.
>>
>> While I don't want to start a flame war, I'd suggest having a look at
>> the
>> colemak l
delayed
> > moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
> > keyboard into the system.
>
> While I don't want to start a flame war, I'd suggest having a look at the
> colemak layout as well. This has some advantages (I feel) over Dvorak.
> Then
--- On Sun, 1/7/12, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > I like the app, I can certainly see improvement in my case.
> > $ aptitude show klavaro
> > Package: klavaro
> > Version: 1.9.3-1
> It's a shame this doesn't support "USA Cherokee" layout.
It supports custom layouts, select "Custom" as Keyboard, you
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 14:32, Camaleón wrote:
> Mmm, are there different switches types for the same keyboard?
>
> (...)
>
> Wow, Internet says there are many colored pieces behaving differently!
> Black, brown, white, clear, blue and red (it seems that red switches were
> manufactured for the Asi
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 11:12:01 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:52, Camaleón wrote:
>> I'm using a GD80-3000 (gold
>> contact keys) and won't replace it for any other but I don't know if
>> Cherry produces Dvorak keyboards :-?
>>
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:52, Camaleón wrote:
> I'm using a GD80-3000 (gold
> contact keys) and won't replace it for any other but I don't know if
> Cherry produces Dvorak keyboards :-?
>
If you mean G80-3000 then that is the keyboard that Das Keyboard is
based on. D
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi wrote:
> On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
>> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
>
> How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you
> could rearrange the keys, but I do not know
On Sat, 2012-01-07 at 23:22 -0800, Weaver wrote:
> > It's a shame this doesn't support "USA Cherokee" layout.
> >
> When I was reading their site yesterday, they made a point of feedback
> being appreciated and wanting to implement new formats, so an approach in
> that direction could be well in o
On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:38:00 Aaron Toponce wrote:
> Piano players do this all the time.
off topic
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On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:29:07 Aaron Toponce wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 11:22:09PM +, Lisi wrote:
> > On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:15:01 Aaron Toponce wrote:
> > > Competent musicians don't keep the notes on their instruments,
> >
> > What about incompetent musicians?
>
> Off-topi
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 19:39, Weaver wrote:
> Hello all.
> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
> moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
&g
> On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 21:57 -0800, T Elcor wrote:
>> --- On Fri, 1/6/12, Weaver wrote:
>>
>> > You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
>> > pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your
>> so
type fairly well with the Dvorak, but I *do* like the keys to be properly
labeled. Why? Because I occasionally hit a key or shortcut with one hand
while the other is using the mouse. Or perhaps type something in with one
hand while holding a notebook with the other. Etcetera.
There is nothing preve
; >
> > I type fairly well with the Dvorak, but I *do* like the keys to be properly
> > labeled. Why? Because I occasionally hit a key or shortcut with one hand
> > while the other is using the mouse. Or perhaps type something in with one
> > hand while holding a notebo
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:35:39PM -0600, green wrote:
> Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600:
> > Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the
> > keys to begin with.
>
> I type fairly well with the Dvorak, but I *do* like the key
Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600:
> Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the
> keys to begin with.
I type fairly well with the Dvorak, but I *do* like the keys to be properly
labeled. Why? Because I occasionally hit a key or shortc
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 11:22:09PM +, Lisi wrote:
> On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:15:01 Aaron Toponce wrote:
> > Competent musicians don't keep the notes on their instruments,
>
> What about incompetent musicians?
Off-topic.
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On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:15:01 Aaron Toponce wrote:
> Competent musicians don't keep the notes on their instruments,
What about incompetent musicians?
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around messes up that curvature, and
requires the fingers to be lifted higher, creating more work to
type, and thus defeating the purpose.
4. Moving your keys around will encourage you to look at your fingers
while you type, preventing true touch typing, and slowing down y
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 21:57 -0800, T Elcor wrote:
> --- On Fri, 1/6/12, Weaver wrote:
>
> > You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
> > pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
> > card for those typing se
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 11:26:31 +, Raf Czlonka wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 10:52:53AM GMT, Camaleón wrote:
>> I'm sure memorizing the keys or using a blank keyboard is an easy task
>> for professional typists :-)
>
> I disagree, you don't have to be a professional typist to memorise the
> k
typist, as long as you know how the
keys relate to each other you can figure it out. Practice and it'll
eventually come naturally.
> Anyway, I first thought the user was looking for a confortable dvorak
> keyboard device and the answer is the same regardless the layout. I agree
> wit
nk keyboard is an easy task
for professional typists :-)
Anyway, I first thought the user was looking for a confortable dvorak
keyboard device and the answer is the same regardless the layout. I agree
with your suggestion of Cherry keyboards, I'm using a GD80-3000 (gold
contact keys) and won'
--- On Fri, 1/6/12, Weaver wrote:
> You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
> pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
> card for those typing sessions.
I'd suggest klavaro application to improve one's typing
> You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
> pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
> card for those typing sessions. Hit a wrong key, there's a backspace key
> to use. This for sighted people just enables
You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
card for those typing sessions. Hit a wrong key, there's a backspace key
to use. This for sighted people just enables another learning chann
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
> "Weaver" wrote:
>
>> Hello all.
>> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
>> greater
>> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
>> moving from t
> On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 07:37:21PM GMT, Lisi wrote:
>> On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
>> > What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
>>
>> How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which
>> you
>> could rearrange the ke
> Weaver wrote at 2012-01-06 10:39 -0700:
>> idea of implementing a Dvorak keyboard into the system.
>>
>> Who makes the best ones?
>> Where can they be bought from.
>
> You can use any keyboard as Dvorak, but I prefer to have properly labeled
> keys, and none
ence of RSI and have even
>>> delayed moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a
>>> Dvorak keyboard into the system.
>>>
>>> Who makes the best ones?
>>> Where can they be bought from.
>>
>> Dvorak is a keyboard layout not a
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
"Weaver" wrote:
> Hello all.
> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
> moving from two finger typing with an idea of imple
On Friday 06 January 2012 20:07:57 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> Model M keyboards as these are the ones you referring to, originally made
> by IBM, are still widely available either from your local second hand
> computer shop or from eBay or you can still buy them new from Unicomp.
Thanks. Worth knowing!
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 07:37:21PM GMT, Lisi wrote:
> On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> > What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
>
> How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you
> could rearrange the keys, but I
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you
could rearrange the keys, but I do not know of any modern equivalent.
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Weaver wrote at 2012-01-06 10:39 -0700:
> idea of implementing a Dvorak keyboard into the system.
>
> Who makes the best ones?
> Where can they be bought from.
You can use any keyboard as Dvorak, but I prefer to have properly labeled
keys, and none of marker, paint, and sticke
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:37:16PM GMT, Camaleón wrote:
> That using a printed keyboard with a different layout (other than the one
> printed) is a completely mess unless you can memory the full keymap in
> your head and type without looking at the keyboard.
That's why I suggested a blank as it
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:32:06PM GMT, Lisi wrote:
> On Friday 06 January 2012 18:22:35 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> > What's wrong with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout?
>
> Because you wouldn't know where the letters are? I think that Weaver means a
>
>> delayed moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a
>> Dvorak keyboard into the system.
>>
>> Who makes the best ones?
>> Where can they be bought from.
>
> Dvorak is a keyboard layout not a physical device.
I'd say it can match both as
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:22:35 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> What's wrong with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout?
Because you wouldn't know where the letters are? I think that Weaver means a
physical keyboard, not the choice of layout in your OS.
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On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote:
> Hello all.
> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
> moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a
> I was hoping there would be a way without using root. But loadkeys
> changes the keymap for all users on all virtual terminals AFAIK which
> is what I'm trying to avoid cause I do usually have several running
> sessions under several different usernames (e.g. myself messing,
> myself working, mys
have no problems doing this within X - although I only
> used the 'setxkbmap'-approach.
>
> So thanks again for all your suggestions, but I'm looking for a way to
> switch to the dvorak-layout for the /console/, not for X. And of
> course - sorry for all the confusion (al
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 09:16AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 10:32:52PM +, Sebastian wrote:
> > Hello everybody
> >
> > I'm just getting started learning the dvorak layout using the package
> > dvorak7min. So far I have only bee
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 10:32:52PM +, Sebastian wrote:
> Hello everybody
>
> I'm just getting started learning the dvorak layout using the package
> dvorak7min. So far I have only been able to practice under X using
> 'setxkbdmap dvorak' which works great.
>
On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 12:29:34PM EST, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> --- On Sat, 1/9/10, Chris Jones wrote:
[..]
> > xmodmap?
> >
> > This may help:
> >
> > http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2004022913081779
> >
> > CJ
> >
>
--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Chris Jones wrote:
> From: Chris Jones
> Subject: Re: How to temporary set dvorak keymap in terminal
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 4:48 PM
> On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 07:21:23AM
> EST, Sebastian wrote:
> > Hi Cama
On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 07:21:23AM EST, Sebastian wrote:
> Hi Camaleón and thanks for your time
>
> I was hoping there would be a way without using root. But loadkeys
> changes the keymap for all users on all virtual terminals AFAIK which
> is what I'm trying to avoid cause I do usually have sever
le at the same time). I'd be surprised if that's
undo-able somehow with Debian.
Cheerio!
Sebastian
On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 04:10PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:32:52 +, Sebastian wrote:
>
> > I'm just getting started learning the dvorak layout
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:32:52 +, Sebastian wrote:
> I'm just getting started learning the dvorak layout using the package
> dvorak7min. So far I have only been able to practice under X using
> 'setxkbdmap dvorak' which works great. What I'm interested i
Hello everybody
I'm just getting started learning the dvorak layout using the package
dvorak7min. So far I have only been able to practice under X using
'setxkbdmap dvorak' which works great.
What I'm interested in if there's an easy way to (temporarily as I'm
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 10:31:09AM -0800, Alejandro Salas wrote:
> Everything works great but for some
> reason when I type a shortcut like ctrl + shift + x
> (in eclipse for example), the app receives ctrl +
> shift + b (which is where "B" in QWERTY, would be).
What desktop environment are you u
I haven't had the problem you're describing. I type Dvorak on sarge.
(Which means I'm using XFree86 4.3.0, probably with Debian patches.)
Here are the relevant bits of my X keyboard configuration:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Hello everyone,
I moved a couple of months ago from qwerty to dvorak.
And in my latest install dvorak is my default
distribution. Everything works great but for some
reason when I type a shortcut like ctrl + shift + x
(in eclipse for example), the app receives ctrl +
shift + b (which is where &q
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 09:43 -0700, Dave Carrigan wrote:
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> The number pad is cumbersome. I'm an emacs guy, so I rarely use the
> arrow keys anyway, but when I have to use them, it's a PITA. However,
> that was easily solved for me by buying a USB number pad; it works fine
> with X, and it e
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:53:23PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> How does the safe type feel for you?
As I say, it's the only way I can type comfortably for longer than an
hour or so. I've used many other keyboards - plain flat ones, low-end
ergonomic ones and high-end ergonomic ones like the
but you pretty
> much have to be a touch typist since you can't see the keys. However, I
> doubt that dvorak/qwerty makes much of a difference.
Wow. That's the first time I heard of that keyboard. Just looked it up
and it looks very... interesting... I've been using a natural keyboar
Clinton V. Weiss wrote:
How effective is Dvorak in programming enviroments? Particularly Java,
are the key layouts any better?
Speed in programming is more a function of the language you use and the
tools with which you program said language. A cheap explination, whom do you
think
Le Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:32:33 -0400, Michael Z Daryabeygi a écrit :
> Has there been some scientific study that shows that dvorak somehow
> redistributes the "load" so as to cause less strain? I doubt it, it is
> the same mechanics, I don't believe that the pro
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:57:30PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> Questions for you and others now using Dvorak: I could change my own keyboard
> to whatever I want, but I know I'll still have to use other keyboards, and
> I've been using QWERTY for close to 30 years. So:
>
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:41:09PM -0500, Steve Block wrote:
> a) the myth that qwerty was designed to slow you down is a lie. qwerty
> was designed to keep mechanical keys from binding, which is more layout
> related than speed related.
Maybe, maybe not. However, I do type faster on Dv
>From Hal Vaughan on Monday, 2005-06-06 at 21:57:30 -0400:
> On Monday 06 June 2005 09:48 pm, p wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 03:46:01PM -0600, Cam wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > So after a few years of hearing of the DVORAK layout (and noticing
> &g
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 10:17:26PM -0400, Clinton V. Weiss wrote:
>
> How effective is Dvorak in programming enviroments? Particularly Java, are
> the
> key layouts any better?
>
No more or less effective than anything else. Its effectiveness is a
function of *how* you typ
Cam wrote:
Hi,
So after a few years of hearing of the DVORAK layout (and noticing
that it seems like my left hand is doing all the work w/ QWERTY), i'd
like to try to make the switch... here's my major concern though (and
perhaps this isn't really an issue, i'd like to
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:57:30PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> Questions for you and others now using Dvorak: I could change my own keyboard
> to whatever I want, but I know I'll still have to use other keyboards, and
> I've been using QWERTY for close to 30 years. So:
>
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