Syrus Nemat-Nasser writes:
[snip]
> read it. Please don't feel concerned that this list is too technical for
> the simpler questions. All of us were new to Linux and Debian at one
> time. IMHO, the best thing that a "newbie" can do is RTFM when they can
The problem with RTFM is sometime the
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Daniel S. Barclay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>> From: "Mark W. Blunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> Maybe we should start a new mailing list, debian-dumb-questions.
>> It would cut my traffic down from debian-user.
>
>Should there be a debian-newbie?
>
>(I don't k
> "Keith" == Keith Leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Keith> The only dumb question is the one not asked. Maybe a newbie
Keith> list should be setup so that these questions won't bother
Keith> the people that are tired of answering the same old stuff
Keith> (which isn't old to
On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Daniel S. Barclay wrote:
>
> > From: "Mark W. Blunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Maybe we should start a new mailing list, debian-dumb-questions.
> > It would cut my traffic down from debian-user.
>
> Should there be a debian-newbie?
The problem with such a list would be
On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Daniel S. Barclay wrote:
>
> > From: "Mark W. Blunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Maybe we should start a new mailing list, debian-dumb-questions.
> > It would cut my traffic down from debian-user.
>
> Should there be a debian-newbie?
Newbie questions should be asked on d
Howdy,
Here's my two cents worth:
The only dumb question is the one not asked. Maybe a newbie list should be
setup so that these questions won't bother the people that are tired of
answering the same old stuff (which isn't old to the newbie trying
desperately to get his (or her) system running. O
On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Daniel S. Barclay wrote:
> > From: "Mark W. Blunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Maybe we should start a new mailing list, debian-dumb-questions.
> > It would cut my traffic down from debian-user.
>
> Should there be a debian-newbie?
Maybe debian-setup? debian-help?
What's
> From: "Mark W. Blunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Maybe we should start a new mailing list, debian-dumb-questions.
> It would cut my traffic down from debian-user.
Should there be a debian-newbie?
(I don't know how much debian-user is new-user questions and how much it's
other stuff.)
Daniel
In response to the DNS lookup failure I was advised that removing the
commas was sufficient to get things working, and have been reporting that
fact to folks on debian-user. Although it is true that dpkg-ftp will now
work, if the first nameserver on the list works, it will not make any use
of the r
> Joseph> I really do appreciate the
> Joseph> help that incompetents like me can get from more expert
> Joseph> individuals -- but how do we get to be able to fix stuff
> Joseph> for ourselves ???
>
> That's a very interesting question. I've often found myself getting
> despera
I agree...
Now that I am in love with my Debian box, I can tell that a LOT of
work must have gone into this, and the benefits are great. In my case, all
that I needed to do was NOT put commas between my nameservers. If this had
been in my install.html file, then I never would have had con
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
> My first Linux installation was Slackware 2.3. I did it with no access to
> the net and no outside help. I installed Debian 1.1 on this machine with
> no help (I tried to get help, but my questions to this list vanished
> without a trace). However, ju
On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Joseph L. Hartmann, Jr. wrote:
> I've finally had it. Not to knock Kendrick. His post just
> pushed me over the edge. Nothing personal. I'm in the same
> boat as him, generally. So many questions on this list --- and
> practically no one knows how to TROUBLE SHOOT! (Includ
> "Joseph" == Joseph L Hartmann, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Joseph> I really do appreciate the
Joseph> help that incompetents like me can get from more expert
Joseph> individuals -- but how do we get to be able to fix stuff
Joseph> for ourselves ???
That's a very interesting
On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Kendrick Myatt wrote:
> At 08:29 PM 1/8/97 -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> >This is a demonstration that dpkg-ftp is working properly. It is reporting
> >that the name specified (which is correct, by the way) either wasn't know
> >to the name server, or you have not designated one
At 08:29 PM 1/8/97 -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote:
>This is a demonstration that dpkg-ftp is working properly. It is reporting
>that the name specified (which is correct, by the way) either wasn't know
>to the name server, or you have not designated one correctly (you may have
>followed instructions and
On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Stephen Zander wrote:
> Kendrick Myatt wrote:
> > When I run dselect and attempt to connect this is what I get...
> > > >Using FTP to check directories...(stop with ^C)
> > > >
> > > >Connecting to ftp.debian.org...
> > > >Net::FTP: Bad hostname 'ftp.debian.org' at /usr
> When I run dselect and attempt to connect this is what I get...
> > >Using FTP to check directories...(stop with ^C)
> > >
> > >Connecting to ftp.debian.org...
> > >Net::FTP: Bad hostname 'ftp.debian.org' at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm
> > >line 405
> > >FTP ERROR
This is a dns problem tha
> At 07:15 PM 1/5/97 -0600, Guy Maor wrote:
> >No, dselect's ftp method, dpkg-ftp, uses perl's Net::FTP to do ftp
> >(the protocol). It does not require ftp (the client). Use dselect to
> >get netstd and you'll have ftp (the client).
> #
> It may have gotten lost when the
Joseph L. Hartmann writes:
> So many questions on this list --- and practically no one knows how to
> TROUBLE SHOOT! (Including me!) Am I wrong about that??
> ...
> What is this linux stuff all coming to if we can't get to the bottom of a
> problem by ourselves?
> ...
> I really do appreciate the
I've finally had it. Not to knock Kendrick. His post just
pushed me over the edge. Nothing personal. I'm in the same
boat as him, generally. So many questions on this list --- and
practically no one knows how to TROUBLE SHOOT! (Including me!)
Am I wrong about that?? How can we get to the poin
On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Kendrick Myatt wrote:
> At 10:25 AM 1/6/97 -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> >Well, you are partially correct. There is no ftp client on the base disks.
> >However, dpkg-ftp IS provided on the base system and dselect's ftp method
> >should work.
>
> It does
Kendrick Myatt wrote:
> At 07:15 PM 1/5/97 -0600, Guy Maor wrote:
> >No, dselect's ftp method, dpkg-ftp, uses perl's Net::FTP to do ftp
> >(the protocol). It does not require ftp (the client). Use dselect to
> >get netstd and you'll have ftp (the client).
> #
> It may have
Kendrick Myatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >Using FTP to check directories...(stop with ^C)
> > >
> > >Connecting to ftp.debian.org...
> > >Net::FTP: Bad hostname 'ftp.debian.org' at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm
> > >line 405
> > >FTP ERROR
Is DNS working? Can you do `ping ftp.debian.org'?
Gu
At 10:25 AM 1/6/97 -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote:
>Well, you are partially correct. There is no ftp client on the base disks.
>However, dpkg-ftp IS provided on the base system and dselect's ftp method
>should work.
It does not. This is what I get when I try and run dselect wit
At 07:15 PM 1/5/97 -0600, Guy Maor wrote:
>No, dselect's ftp method, dpkg-ftp, uses perl's Net::FTP to do ftp
>(the protocol). It does not require ftp (the client). Use dselect to
>get netstd and you'll have ftp (the client).
#
It may have gotten lost when the list went do
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Pat Kennedy wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> >
> > Once you have a reasonable system going, you can use mirror to maintain
> > your own personal archive and keep it up-to-date with current development.
> > This does, of course, require that you have suf
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Thomas Veldhouse wrote:
> Thank you for the info. This is indeed what I was looking for. I do have
> another small question. I downloaded the i386 version to a windows 95
> VFAT partition. Do I need to worry about name mangling from within
> dselect? Do I have to download
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:
>
> Once you have a reasonable system going, you can use mirror to maintain
> your own personal archive and keep it up-to-date with current development.
> This does, of course, require that you have sufficient disk space.
Dale,
Great overview of t
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Thomas Veldhouse wrote:
> reiterate, my question is, will I have telnet and ftp capability when I
> install all of the packages from my hard drive.
Debian does offer a lot of choices how to install your system.
After installing the netstd-package from your harddrive you will h
Thank you for the info. This is indeed what I was looking for. I do have
another small question. I downloaded the i386 version to a windows 95
VFAT partition. Do I need to worry about name mangling from within
dselect? Do I have to download the msdos-i386 version? I certainly hope
not.
Tom V
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Thomas Veldhouse wrote:
> Will this be a problem if I downloaded all the packages and the install
> directly to my hard drive? I install from a DOS partition. I should then
> get the new FTP and telnet packages, correct? I can use dselect to choose
> these off of my hard driv
Will this be a problem if I downloaded all the packages and the install
directly to my hard drive? I install from a DOS partition. I should then
get the new FTP and telnet packages, correct? I can use dselect to choose
these off of my hard drive DOS partition. I just recently put debian on
my sy
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Kendrick Myatt wrote:
> Okay, here is what I have learned...
>
> The Debian 1.2 Disk release version is broken.
> There is no ftp or dpkg-ftp program installed to your machine if you get all
> the Disks and do a fresh install. Basically you are screwed :(
> Dselect will not w
Kendrick Myatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dselect will not work because there is no ftp.
No, dselect's ftp method, dpkg-ftp, uses perl's Net::FTP to do ftp
(the protocol). It does not require ftp (the client). Use dselect to
get netstd and you'll have ftp (the client).
Guy
--
TO UNSUBSCR
Okay, here is what I have learned...
The Debian 1.2 Disk release version is broken.
There is no ftp or dpkg-ftp program installed to your machine if you get all
the Disks and do a fresh install. Basically you are screwed :(
Dselect will not work because there is no ftp.
Nobody understands what th
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