On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 21:10:54 -0500 David Wright sent:
> On Sat 06 Aug 2016 at 09:31:06 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:47:43 -0500 David Wright sent:
> >
> > > On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 23:17:08 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 07:29:23 -0500 John Hasler sent:
On Sat 06 Aug 2016 at 09:31:06 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:47:43 -0500 David Wright sent:
>
> > On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 23:17:08 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> > > On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 07:29:23 -0500 John Hasler sent:
> > >
> > > > Programs do sometimes open in other viewports..
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:34:26 +0100 Lisi Reisz sent:
> It doesn't mimic it. It is it. Both are Google. Chrome is the
> closed source proprietary one. Chromium the open source one, but it
> is still Google and gets most of its stuff from Chrome. As you say,
> Debian then packages Chromium, whic
On Friday 12 August 2016 00:22:50 Rodary Jacques wrote:
> As far as I remember, it has nothing to do with the OS, nor with the
> browser or the desktop manager but with the windows manager. In 1999
> (perhaps 2000) when Gnome was to be loaded carefully one package at a time,
> NextStep or Nautilu
On Friday 12 August 2016 00:24:37 Charlie wrote:
> Lisi said that Chromium is probably behaving the way it is because
> Windows now uses different viewpoints or desktops or workspaces [I
> wouldn't know which].
They call them desktops!!! Your "workspaces" was perfectly comprehensible,
and the ge
On 2016-08-11, Charlie wrote:
>
> Bottom line:
>
> I **try** [operative word] as much as possible to stay with Debian
> supported packages.
That's the spirit.
I have Chrome (now an outdated version) on this Wheezy machine running
Gnome 3 (with workspaces) and do not experience the gratuitous jum
As far as I remember, it has nothing to do with the OS, nor with the browser
or the desktop manager but with the windows manager. In 1999 (perhaps 2000)
when Gnome was to be loaded carefully one package at a time, NextStep or
Nautilus windows manager (I can't remember which, perhaps a third on
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 00:00:01 +0200 Rodary Jacques sent:
> Did I already told you about Opera
> :-D)
After contemplation, my reply is:
I did consider it. However its **not** a browser supported by Debian.
Lisi said that Chromium is probably behaving the way it is because
Windows now us
Did I already told you about Opera
:-D)
On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:47:43 -0500 David Wright sent:
> On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 23:17:08 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> > On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 07:29:23 -0500 John Hasler sent:
> >
> > > Programs do sometimes open in other viewports..
> >
> > After contemplation, my reply is:
> >
> > Until no
On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 19:34:15 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 04 August 2016 19:06:51 David Wright wrote:
> > Reviewing your posts, the first sympathetically commiserated with the OP,
> > the rest seemed to be arguing with those who knew something about fvwm
> > and were trying to comment
On Thursday 04 August 2016 20:59:03 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:32:37 PM Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > It wasn't originally. Look at the subject header. I specifically said
> > in my original post that I did npt want a falme-war about terminology,
> > but I seem to have go
On Thursday 04 August 2016 21:01:31 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, August 04, 2016 02:34:15 PM Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > It does not apply to the software I use. Why on earth are you so
> > determined to argue?
>
> You don't have to participate in an argument...
touchée! ;-)
Lisi
On Thursday, August 04, 2016 02:34:15 PM Lisi Reisz wrote:
> It does not apply to the software I use. Why on earth are you so
> determined to argue?
You don't have to participate in an argument...
On Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:32:37 PM Lisi Reisz wrote:
> It wasn't originally. Look at the subject header. I specifically said in
> my original post that I did npt want a falme-war about terminology, but I
> seem to have got one any way. The OP asked if anyone else had met the
> problem. At
On Thursday 04 August 2016 19:06:51 David Wright wrote:
> Reviewing your posts, the first sympathetically commiserated with the OP,
> the rest seemed to be arguing with those who knew something about fvwm
> and were trying to comment on the problem and its possible amelioration.
David, that is unf
On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 17:32:37 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 04 August 2016 17:13:06 John Hasler wrote:
> > Lisi writes:
> > > And the authors of the software (DE) I use, use the term desktop
> >
> > But the software under discussion is FVWM, which, if I understand
> > correctly, is not
On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 23:17:08 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 07:29:23 -0500 John Hasler sent:
>
> > Programs do sometimes open in other viewports..
>
> After contemplation, my reply is:
>
> Until now, I have never had a program open in a different viewport from
> where
On Thursday 04 August 2016 17:13:15 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> John Hasler wrote:
> > There may be no such thing as a "right name" but there is such a thing
> > as a correct name in a technical discussion.
>
> Reading The Funderful Manual:
>
> Fvwm provides both, a large virtual desktop and
On Thursday 04 August 2016 17:13:06 John Hasler wrote:
> Lisi writes:
> > And the authors of the software (DE) I use, use the term desktop
>
> But the software under discussion is FVWM, which, if I understand
> correctly, is not what you use. It would be nice if all the window
> manager and deskto
Lisi writes:
> And the authors of the software (DE) I use, use the term desktop
But the software under discussion is FVWM, which, if I understand
correctly, is not what you use. It would be nice if all the window
manager and desktop environment authors would agree on standard jargon,
but that is
Hi,
John Hasler wrote:
> There may be no such thing as a "right name" but there is such a thing
> as a correct name in a technical discussion.
Reading The Funderful Manual:
Fvwm provides both, a large virtual desktop and multiple disjoint
desktops which can be used separately or together. T
Charlie writes:
> I'm unsure when this was so programmed. In the old times one could
> mouse drag open packages into any desktop. There were no hard no go
> fences between them.
It was configured that way by whoever created the FVWM config file you
are using. When I started using FVWM there were
On Thursday 04 August 2016 16:26:25 John Hasler wrote:
> Lisi writes:
> > There is no such thing as a "right name".
>
> There may be no such thing as a "right name" but there is such a thing
> as a correct name in a technical discussion. It's easier for everyone
> if we all use the definitions cho
Charlie writes:
> So after opening a program on a viewport that I had just had another
> program finish opening. I would click on another program, and before
> it opened, move the cursor to the desktop and viewport where I wanted
> it to open and click on it, and it would open in that
> location. H
Lisi writes:
> There is no such thing as a "right name".
There may be no such thing as a "right name" but there is such a thing
as a correct name in a technical discussion. It's easier for everyone
if we all use the definitions chosen by the authors of the software
(though I admit that even they
Lisi writes:
> No, it wasn't. I said and meant "desktop", otherwise known as
> workspace.
Ok, but that is confusing when discussing FVWM.
> If you say that the OP, who uses FVWM, said workspace and meant
> viewport, I cannot argue, since you obviously know FVWM, and I don't.
I've been using FV
On Thursday 04 August 2016 09:48:45 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 04 August 2016 14:02:45 Charlie wrote:
> > All wisdom is rooted in learning to call things by the right name.
> > When things are properly identified, they fall into natural
> > categories and understanding becomes orderly.
>
> Pr
On Thursday 04 August 2016 14:02:45 Charlie wrote:
> All wisdom is rooted in learning to call things by the right name. When
> things are properly identified, they fall into natural categories and
> understanding becomes orderly.
Provided that everyone agrees on what the names mean. In this case,
On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 07:29:23 -0500 John Hasler sent:
> Programs do sometimes open in other viewports..
After contemplation, my reply is:
Until now, I have never had a program open in a different viewport from
where it was opened, unless...
Brought up and clicked on a program
On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 07:29:23 -0500 John Hasler sent:
> David writes:
> > I ran two desktops on two screens/graphics cards in fvwm for many
> > years and the boundary between them was impermeable.
>
> That has been my experience running four FVWM desktops with sixteen
> viewports each on my mach
On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 08:54:58 +0100 Lisi Reisz sent:
> On Thursday 04 August 2016 03:21:20 David Wright wrote:
> > The OP said they use fvwm which exhibits the behaviour I described.
> > If you can drag the window from where it popped up to where you want
> > it, then it was on the correct *desktop*
David writes:
> I ran two desktops on two screens/graphics cards in fvwm for many
> years and the boundary between them was impermeable.
That has been my experience running four FVWM desktops with sixteen
viewports each on my machine and also on my wife's machine. Programs
do sometimes open in ot
On Thursday 04 August 2016 03:21:20 David Wright wrote:
> The OP said they use fvwm which exhibits the behaviour I described.
> If you can drag the window from where it popped up to where you want
> it, then it was on the correct *desktop*.
No, it wasn't. I said and meant "desktop", otherwise kn
On Wed 03 Aug 2016 at 22:08:16 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 August 2016 20:50:05 David Wright wrote:
> > Anyway, if it's workspace in the sense of the one mention of
> > "workspace" in man fvwm ie desktop, then I can't be of any help.
>
> Thanks, David. I don't think that anyo
On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 18:42:38 +0300 Reco sent:
> Hi.
>
> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 23:18:40 +1000
> Charlie wrote:
>
> > I only use it and Iceweasel, but now with the Iceweasel/Firefox
> > transition, which also has become a liability. Epiphany is my new
> > browser of choice in place of firefox-e
On Wednesday 03 August 2016 21:03:52 Glenn English wrote:
> > I suspect it may have something to do with the arrival of workspaces in
> > Windows 10.
>
> Nope. The most recent Mac OS does the same thing.
It isn't the OS we are complaining about. It is Chromium/Google and its new
habit, which I s
On Wednesday 03 August 2016 20:50:05 David Wright wrote:
> Anyway, if it's workspace in the sense of the one mention of
> "workspace" in man fvwm ie desktop, then I can't be of any help.
Thanks, David. I don't think that anyone can be of any help. I think one
just has to curse and live with
> On Aug 3, 2016, at 2:56 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 03 August 2016 02:10:46 Charlie wrote:
>> Has anyone discovered this problem and found a way to stop this
>> happening? Please share.
>
> Can only offer fellow-feeling. Most annoying. It is of recent arrival here
> (Debian Jess
On Wed 03 Aug 2016 at 15:36:19 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 August 2016 14:52:38 David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 03 Aug 2016 at 11:10:46 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> > > From my keyboard:
> > >
> > > Debian testing 4.6.0-1-amd64
> > > Using FVWM
> > > Chromium - Version 52.0.274
Hi.
On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 23:18:40 +1000
Charlie wrote:
> I only use it and Iceweasel, but now with the Iceweasel/Firefox
> transition, which also has become a liability. Epiphany is my new
> browser of choice in place of firefox-esr because of these bugs:
>
<...>
> b3 - #822715 - firefox
On Wednesday 03 August 2016 14:52:38 David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 03 Aug 2016 at 11:10:46 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> > From my keyboard:
> >
> > Debian testing 4.6.0-1-amd64
> > Using FVWM
> > Chromium - Version 52.0.2743.82 built on Debian stretch/sid,
> > running on Debian stretch/
On Wed 03 Aug 2016 at 11:10:46 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
>
> From my keyboard:
>
> Debian testing 4.6.0-1-amd64
> Using FVWM
> Chromium - Version 52.0.2743.82 built on Debian stretch/sid,
> running on Debian stretch/sid (64-bit)
>
> Move onto the workspace on which
On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 09:56:25 +0100 Lisi Reisz sent:
> On Wednesday 03 August 2016 02:10:46 Charlie wrote:
> > Has anyone discovered this problem and found a way to stop this
> > happening? Please share.
>
> Can only offer fellow-feeling. Most annoying. It is of recent
> arrival here (Debian Je
On Wednesday 03 August 2016 02:10:46 Charlie wrote:
> Has anyone discovered this problem and found a way to stop this
> happening? Please share.
Can only offer fellow-feeling. Most annoying. It is of recent arrival here
(Debian Jessie, 8.5, Google Chrome 52.0.2743.82 (64-bit)), and although I
From my keyboard:
Debian testing 4.6.0-1-amd64
Using FVWM
Chromium - Version 52.0.2743.82 built on Debian stretch/sid,
running on Debian stretch/sid (64-bit)
Move onto the workspace on which Chromium is to open and try to do
so, and Chromium opens, but
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