On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 04/19/2016 12:49 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > On 04/16/2016 03:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >>
> >> Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15
> >> April 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as
> >> announced
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 04/16/2016 03:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15
> > April 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as
> > announced months ago, finally ceased support for its browser o
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 08:30:43AM -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> You are missing that the change to systemd makes most of the knowledge
> patiently acquired over the years running and caring for a Linux system has
> suddenly become unusable.
As a former sysadmin wrangling frankly horrid in-house
On 04/19/2016 12:49 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 04/16/2016 03:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April
2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced
months ago, finally ceased support for its browser on Wheezy. I
On 04/16/2016 03:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April 2016, the beginning of the
end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced months ago, finally ceased support for its browser on
Wheezy. I double checked just to be sure, and in the
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 05:19:46PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016, Bob Holtzman wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 02:23:08PM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:48:56 -0700
> > > Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 09:34:05AM +10
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016, Bob Holtzman wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 02:23:08PM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:48:56 -0700
> > Bob Holtzman wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 09:34:05AM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
> > > > P
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Michael Milliman wrote:
>
>
> On 04/17/2016 06:59 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Michael Milliman wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 04/16/2016 07:52 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >> choice of inits as a standard option during installs on future
> >> releases,
I can't speak for anyone else, but I found systemd to be ridiculously
counterintuitive and poorly documented when I was first exposed to it. To this
day, the standard GUI configurator for it (systemadm) is so limited as to be
nearly useless; and I find hand-configuring a new service to be a maj
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 02:23:08PM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:48:56 -0700
> Bob Holtzman wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 09:34:05AM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> > > On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
> > > Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > >
> > > > Much to my regret
On Apr 17, 2016, at 5:30 AM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:48:16 +
> Mark Fletcher wrote:
>
>> It seems the emotions, even now, are running too high to be simply about
>> "if it ain't broke don't fix it". What am I missing?
>
> You are missing that the change to sy
On 04/17/2016 06:59 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Michael Milliman wrote:
On 04/16/2016 07:52 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
choice of inits as a standard option during installs on future
releases, but I very much doubt it.
B
I use Linux Mint on one of my machines. It is ini
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:48:56 -0700
Bob Holtzman wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 09:34:05AM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
> > Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15
> > > April 2016, the beginning o
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Michael Milliman wrote:
>
>
> On 04/16/2016 07:52 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >> > >choice of inits as a standard option during installs on future
> >> > >releases, but I very much doubt it.
> >> > >
> >> > >B
> >> > >
> > >
> I use Linux Mint on one of my machines. It is i
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Go Linux wrote:
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
> From: Patrick Bartek
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
> >
> > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15
> &g
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 09:34:05AM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
> Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April
> > 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced
> > months ago, finall
On Sunday, April 17, 2016, Renaud OLGIATI
wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:48:16 +
> Mark Fletcher > wrote:
>
> > It seems the emotions, even now, are running too high to be simply about
> > "if it ain't broke don't fix it". What am I missing?
>
> You are missing that the change to systemd mak
On 04/17/2016 07:00 AM, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
On Sunday 17 April 2016 11:48:16 Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM Michael Milliman <
michael.e.milli...@gmail.com> wrote:
I've never really
liked systemd, though I must admit it does work and do the job -- I just
like the simpl
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:48:16 +
Mark Fletcher wrote:
> It seems the emotions, even now, are running too high to be simply about
> "if it ain't broke don't fix it". What am I missing?
You are missing that the change to systemd makes most of the knowledge
patiently acquired over the years runn
On Sunday 17 April 2016 11:48:16 Mark Fletcher wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM Michael Milliman <
>
> michael.e.milli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've never really
> > liked systemd, though I must admit it does work and do the job -- I just
> > like the simplicity of the init system better.
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM Michael Milliman <
michael.e.milli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've never really
> liked systemd, though I must admit it does work and do the job -- I just
> like the simplicity of the init system better. Admittedly, I may well
> be undereducated on systemd resulting
On 04/16/2016 07:52 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >choice of inits as a standard option during installs on future
> >releases, but I very much doubt it.
> >
> >B
> >
>
I use Linux Mint on one of my machines. It is init based, not systemd,
and has Debian and Ubuntu as it's underpinnings. All o
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
> Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15
> > April 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as
> > announced months ago, finally ceased support for
On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
Patrick Bartek wrote:
> Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April
> 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced
> months ago, finally ceased support for its browser on Wheezy. I
> double checked just to be s
Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April 2016, the
beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced months ago, finally
ceased support for its browser on Wheezy. I double checked just to be sure,
and in the course of that check also discovered "official"
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