Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-26 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [25.08.08 08:31]: > This has never been true and is still not true. It is, of course, the > easiest way to weed out the mutt zealots who have never touched a true > multi-account client from those mutt users who have and know the difference. > Then please sta

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-25 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:44:53PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote: > > It's all fine IMHO. > > Now enable trash and see what it does there. It is entirely possible they > have fixed that issue since the last time I tried mutt over imap (which was, > incidentally, not all th

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote: > Are you sure about this ? As of the last time I tested mutt imap, yes, without question. In fact I had gone so far as to take a screencast of mutt deleting 200 messages by copying it to the local machine then uploading it to the trash folder. However, those configura

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Sebastian Günther wrote: > Look at account-hook and folder-hook and in combination with a nice > source statement, you everything some bloated GUI mailer has. Even more > you can easily adjust your profile on folder basis. This has never been true and is still not true. It is, of course, th

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-23 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Andrei Popescu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [23.08.08 09:49]: > On Wed,20.Aug.08, 16:19:57, Steve Lamb wrote: > > [...] > > > I prefer that it handle multiple accounts sanely. > > I haven't looked into it, but 'muttprofile' seems interesting. Of > course, it will probably need a lot of fiddling first.

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,20.Aug.08, 16:19:57, Steve Lamb wrote: [...] > I prefer that it handle multiple accounts sanely. I haven't looked into it, but 'muttprofile' seems interesting. Of course, it will probably need a lot of fiddling first. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't underst

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-21 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 03:55:35AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Of course it is, the fact that mutt is using the network to > download-then-upload the messages is the entire problem! Which is > going to be > faster: > > A: Downloading 2000 messages totaling 10Mb over a 300kps connection > then

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-21 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 04:19:57PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > One of the many faults I find with mutt is its IMAP > implementation. In two words, it fails. Copying individual messages > from the current folder to any other folder, especially trash, by > downloading the message and then

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Steve Kemp wrote: > If you use the mutt-patched package you can take advantage of the > sidebar to have a toggleable list of mailboxes on the left side of > the screen. > I've further updated that to allow it to show you only folders with > new messages. See here for details, and here fo

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Johann Spies wrote: > My experience is not that it is 'horribly slow and > inefficient'. Are you sure that it is not a network-related slowness? Of course it is, the fact that mutt is using the network to download-then-upload the messages is the entire problem! Which is going to be faster:

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Daniel Burrows wrote: > Do you know how this compares to offlineimap? I've been using that > to synchronize mailboxes more-or-less happily for the last few years. I do not, no. I have not used offlineimap so cannot make any comparison. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-21 Thread Steve Kemp
On Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 16:19:57 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > With that one glaring wart hidden I have to say that I've upgraded mutt to > "viable" again. I still don't like having to search for my new mail. If you use the mutt-patched package you can take advantage of the sidebar to have

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-20 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 04:19:57PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > One of the many faults I find with mutt is its IMAP implementation. In > two words, it fails. Copying individual messages from the current folder to > any other folder, especially trash, by downloading the message and then > uploa

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 04:19:57PM -0700, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Enter a tool which made mutt viable for my needs, mbsync (debian package - > isync). It is a tool which syncronizes a local Maildir folder with a remote > imap folder. In essence it is a local imap c

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-20 Thread Steve Lamb
?? ?. wrote: > The problem is that Mutt is agnostic to 'accounts', I'll give you that one, > but > I don't think it'd a useful feature -- think about it, what's an account other > than a From: field? For those that needs it different SMTP servers with different SMTP settings,

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-20 Thread Александър Л . Димитров
Hello Steve, Thanks for your heads up on mbsync. I might try it with my GMail accounts, since I still have them on POP precisely for the reason that mutt isn't really capable of handling IMAP fine. But... Quoth Steve Lamb > ... The lack of multi-account functionality... What exactly are your iss

A viable mutt

2008-08-20 Thread Steve Lamb
I'm sure many of the long-time readers of D-U are familiar with my many rants against the horridness that is mutt. I prefer my email client GUI. I prefer it to do its own transport. I prefer that it handle multiple accounts sanely. IE, I prefer all things mutt is not. However, this is not