Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-31 Thread Owen Townend
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 05:34 -0700, pgega wrote: > On Oct 22, 10:00 pm, Pasi Oja-Nisula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 11:29:37AM -, pgega wrote: > > > Pasi: what was the RAM seend by BIOS , when I use 4 GiB ,bios sees > > > only 3052 GiB (But the MSI board can hadle up t

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-25 Thread Wakko Warner
Again, please do not top post. Also, keep list mails on the list. Pawe?? G??ga wrote: > i have a kernel compiled fod 4gb , can this be the reason of these lacks ? The way it works, there are 3 memory models. 1gb, 4gb, and 64gb. This is NOT the amount of memory in your machine. 1gb will give y

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-25 Thread Pasi Oja-Nisula
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 04:04:59PM -, pgega wrote: > I just installed AMD64 Debian, put 4th RAM stick, but new sysytem does > not see the memory, even if I set mem=3900M in grub. Well, the mem-parameter is mainly used in limiting the available memory, not the other way round. I would use that

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-25 Thread pietia
Wakko Warner pisze: pgega wrote: Please do not top post. I just installed AMD64 Debian, put 4th RAM stick, but new sysytem does not see the memory, even if I set mem=3900M in grub. I completly do not know what to do now. I'm using i386 debian with a custom kernel. I'm running on

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-24 Thread Wakko Warner
pgega wrote: Please do not top post. > I just installed AMD64 Debian, put 4th RAM stick, but new sysytem does > not see the memory, even if I set mem=3900M in grub. > > I completly do not know what to do now. I'm using i386 debian with a custom kernel. I'm running on xeon dual core processors

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-24 Thread pgega
I just installed AMD64 Debian, put 4th RAM stick, but new sysytem does not see the memory, even if I set mem=3900M in grub. I completly do not know what to do now. On Oct 24, 1:20 am, Wakko Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Modern 32 bit processors and chipsets map aroun

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-23 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/23/07 19:51, Tim DeWall wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:11 PM > Subject: Re: 1GB RAM is missing. > > >

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-23 Thread Tim DeWall
- Original Message - From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: Re: 1GB RAM is missing. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/23/07 18:00, Stephen Cormier wrote: On October 23, 2007 05:32:55 pm Ron Jo

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-23 Thread Wakko Warner
Ron Johnson wrote: > Modern 32 bit processors and chipsets map around those limitations. > > For many years there have been 32-bit server motherboards that > accept and use (in both Linux and Windows) up to 64GB RAM. I have a SuperMicro X7DA3+ board with 4gb of memory installed. Here's what I se

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-23 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/23/07 18:00, Stephen Cormier wrote: > On October 23, 2007 05:32:55 pm Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 10/23/07 14:16, Stephen Cormier wrote: >> [snip] >> >>> You are going to have to accept that you are never going to get all 4gb >>> running a 32bit ins

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-23 Thread Stephen Cormier
On October 23, 2007 05:32:55 pm Ron Johnson wrote: > On 10/23/07 14:16, Stephen Cormier wrote: > [snip] > > > You are going to have to accept that you are never going to get all 4gb > > running a 32bit install due to the limitations of using 32bit where > > things > > At the pid level, or at the OS

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-23 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/23/07 14:16, Stephen Cormier wrote: [snip] > > You are going to have to accept that you are never going to get all 4gb > running a 32bit install due to the limitations of using 32bit where things At the pid level, or at the OS level? > need

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-23 Thread Stephen Cormier
On October 23, 2007 09:34:52 am pgega wrote: > On Oct 22, 10:00 pm, Pasi Oja-Nisula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 11:29:37AM -, pgega wrote: > > > Pasi: what was the RAM seend by BIOS , when I use 4 GiB ,bios sees > > > only 3052 GiB (But the MSI board can hadle up to 8

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-23 Thread pgega
On Oct 22, 10:00 pm, Pasi Oja-Nisula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 11:29:37AM -, pgega wrote: > > Pasi: what was the RAM seend by BIOS , when I use 4 GiB ,bios sees > > only 3052 GiB (But the MSI board can hadle up to 8 GiB) > > > If I would rise RAM number with GRUB (lik

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-22 Thread Pasi Oja-Nisula
On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 11:29:37AM -, pgega wrote: > Pasi: what was the RAM seend by BIOS , when I use 4 GiB ,bios sees > only 3052 GiB (But the MSI board can hadle up to 8 GiB) > > If I would rise RAM number with GRUB (like you, 3900GiB), could I get > more then seen by bios (3052 GiB) ? In m

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-22 Thread pgega
Some update: BIOS sees 4G as phisical memory and 3G under Usage memory. All sticks are fine. Any order , any sticks ,BIOS always sees 4G physical and 3G usage. I set the momory variable in GRUB. It works much faser at mem=3900G then at mem=3500G On Oct 22, 12:50 pm, pgega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-22 Thread pgega
I use x86 ,becouse when I used amd64 it was quite unstable , but do not know how's things now. Pasi: what was the RAM seend by BIOS , when I use 4 GiB ,bios sees only 3052 GiB (But the MSI board can hadle up to 8 GiB) If I would rise RAM number with GRUB (like you, 3900GiB), could I get more then

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-22 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Monday 22 October 2007 11:32, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 10:01:52PM -0700, pgega wrote: > > And there si a question , how to get k7 (or k8) kernel for the newest > > kernel 2.6.23.1 ? > > Are you running custom kernels? Lacking info I assumed you are running > standard Debia

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/22/07 00:01, pgega wrote: > Thanks for that. > > Here's mdesg output for 4GB insalled? > http://pastie.caboo.se/109588 > > And there si a question , how to get k7 (or k8) kernel for the newest > kernel 2.6.23.1 ? k8 == amd64 == x86_64. You wo

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 10:01:52PM -0700, pgega wrote: > And there si a question , how to get k7 (or k8) kernel for the newest > kernel 2.6.23.1 ? Are you running custom kernels? Lacking info I assumed you are running standard Debian kernel. You should check for option: CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y But

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-22 Thread Pasi Oja-Nisula
On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 03:13:54PM -0700, pgega wrote: > I tried swaping all of them in any possible order, none of sticks is > broken. I had the same kind of problems with my Soltek motherboard, although 32-bit one, so the following might not apply. But I guess it might be a bios issue anyway, so

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-21 Thread pgega
I am prepraing new kernel compilation , as I see HIGHMEM was set to 4GiB , shall I set to 64GiB ? On Oct 22, 12:20 am, Tim Gruene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If -k8 exists, you can use it. It is just a flavour of the kernel with > some features that are only available for k8 and above (simila

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-21 Thread Tim Gruene
According to packages.debian.org, the latest kernel for testing in the AMD-section is linux-image-2.6.22-2-k7. If you needa later kernel version (why, it is pretty recent), you need to compile it yourself. I am sure you find directions how to do that for debian in the web. Cheers, Tim On Su

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-21 Thread pgega
Thanks for that. Here's mdesg output for 4GB insalled? http://pastie.caboo.se/109588 And there si a question , how to get k7 (or k8) kernel for the newest kernel 2.6.23.1 ? btw I use own - compiled kernel , but here are results of search for k7 in Debian SID repositoires http://pastie.caboo.se/

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-21 Thread Tim Gruene
If -k8 exists, you can use it. It is just a flavour of the kernel with some features that are only available for k8 and above (similar to -i686 kernels, etc.) Your dmesg does suggest that the kernel knows 4GB, but HIGHMEM4G is probably set to 'no'. in that case, according to the kernel doc

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-21 Thread pgega
OK, I googled for some k7 - related issues, what about k8 (I am asking because amd 64 is k8) ? Kind regards, Pawel Gega On Oct 21, 9:30 pm, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 08:58:44AM -0700, pgega wrote: > > My problem is I want to use 4GB RAM at full power, an

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-21 Thread pgega
And how to get k7 ? (or this is an option in kernel?) Sorry for that , completly not familiar with k7. On Oct 21, 9:30 pm, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 08:58:44AM -0700, pgega wrote: > > My problem is I want to use 4GB RAM at full power, and have no idea > >

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-21 Thread pgega
Yes, Motherboard supports 8GiB, Here is dmesg output for 3 of 4 RAM sticks http://pastie.caboo.se/109470 Might be helpfull. This morning I will paste Dmesg output for 4 of 4 RAM sticks. Andrei, do not hurt me , but I am not too familiar with k7 ? Is it just option of kernel ,like 2.6.23.1-k7 or

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 08:58:44AM -0700, pgega wrote: > My problem is I want to use 4GB RAM at full power, and have no idea > what might be the problem. > I must use 3GB to make my system booting quickly.(not only booting, > system works faster with 3GB) [...] > AMD Athlon x2 4000+ (I use 32bi

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-21 Thread Tim Gruene
Could you sent your 'dmesg' output. It might contain a clue about how your system deals with the memory and why. Tim On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, pgega wrote: Hi all, I just builded mo own x86 machine , and I am quite surprised ,because 1GB of RAM is missing (1GB of 4GB) and my Debian's boot time

Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-21 Thread Florian Lindner
Am Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2007 schrieb pgega: > I just builded mo own x86 machine , and I am quite surprised ,because > 1GB of RAM is missing (1GB of 4GB) and my Debian's boot time is 10 > minutes. > > Moreover when I take off one RAM stick (which will give me 3GB RAM) my > system boots in 40 seconds

1GB RAM is missing.

2007-10-21 Thread pgega
Hi all, I just builded mo own x86 machine , and I am quite surprised ,because 1GB of RAM is missing (1GB of 4GB) and my Debian's boot time is 10 minutes. Moreover when I take off one RAM stick (which will give me 3GB RAM) my system boots in 40 seconds - I am amazed. All of RAM sticks are fine