Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-08 Thread Karl Vogel
R> On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 14:47:26 -0500 (EST) (Karl Vogel) wrote: K> I correct shoulder pain by doing 5-10 very slow pushups just before bed, K> or by holding a dumbbell over my shoulder and letting my hand dangle K> over the back of the couch while watching TV. >> On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:22:29 +,

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:16:13 +0200, Dotan wrote in message : > On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 15:56, Lisi wrote: > > On Saturday 04 February 2012 13:47:01 lina wrote: > >> > ..if you're changing your keyboard habits anyway, follow the > >> > dvorak advice, it's a more dramatic change that will help stop

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 15:56, Lisi wrote: > On Saturday 04 February 2012 13:47:01 lina wrote: >> > ..if you're changing your keyboard habits anyway, follow the >> > dvorak advice, it's a more dramatic change that will help stop >> > you from falling back into your bad qwerty habits, also because >

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 3. Februar 2012 schrieb doug: > On 02/03/2012 12:39 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Freitag, 3. Februar 2012 schrieb lina: > >> Hi, > >> > >> are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? > >> > >> for weeks, I felt the hand especially the thumb get strengh-less in >

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-07 Thread Curt
On 2012-02-07, lina wrote: >> >> There's some pretty small dumbbells in here you could probably use. > > Thanks. I have never touched dumbbells. > probably swimming and other exercise also helps. My remark was made in levity (a "dumbbell," while meaning an exercise device, also denotes a stupid p

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-07 Thread lina
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Curt wrote: > On 2012-02-06, richard wrote: > >>>    I've had similar problems with my wrists and shoulders, and the one >>>    thing that helped most was taking 3 minutes a day to do a set of >>> complete range-of-motion wrist exercises with really small dumb-bel

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-07 Thread Curt
On 2012-02-06, richard wrote: >>I've had similar problems with my wrists and shoulders, and the one >>thing that helped most was taking 3 minutes a day to do a set of >> complete range-of-motion wrist exercises with really small dumb-bells There's some pretty small dumbbells in here you

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-06 Thread richard
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 14:47:26 -0500 (EST) vogelke+deb...@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 18:57, lina wrote: > > L> are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? > >I've had similar problems with my wrists and shoulders, and the one >thing that helped

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-06 Thread Karl Vogel
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 18:57, lina wrote: L> are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? I've had similar problems with my wrists and shoulders, and the one thing that helped most was taking 3 minutes a day to do a set of complete range-of-motion wrist exercises with re

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-05 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 10:07:21AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > The technical name of the problem is "plantar fasciitis"; the > podiatrist said that it was the most common ailment which he treats. Massage therapy can be used to treat plantar fasciitis, as well as the OP's hand pain. Of cou

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand -> dvorak

2012-02-05 Thread lina
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Russell L. Harris wrote: > * Arnt Karlsen [120205 23:54]: >> On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 16:37:47 +, Russell wrote in message >> <20120204163747.GC2339@cromwell.tmiaf>: >> >> > >From the Gnome desktop, use the system -> preferences -> keyboard -> >> > layouts menu to se

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand -> dvorak

2012-02-05 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Arnt Karlsen [120205 23:54]: > On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 16:37:47 +, Russell wrote in message > <20120204163747.GC2339@cromwell.tmiaf>: > > > >From the Gnome desktop, use the system -> preferences -> keyboard -> > > layouts menu to select "USA Dvorak" (a regrettable compromise) or "USA > > Classi

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand -> dvorak

2012-02-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 16:37:47 +, Russell wrote in message <20120204163747.GC2339@cromwell.tmiaf>: > * lina [120204 16:12]: > > > > How do I start the dvorak? > > sorry I just started finishing reading the wikipage about dvorak. > > > >From the Gnome desktop, use the system -> preferences ->

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand -> dvorak

2012-02-04 Thread green
lina wrote at 2012-02-04 10:51 -0600: > I am under xfce4, on the keyboard layout, I can't find the options > contains the word Dvorak. Have you tried the xfce4-xkb-plugin package? signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand -> dvorak

2012-02-04 Thread lina
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Russell L. Harris wrote: > * lina [120204 16:12]: >> >> How do I start the dvorak? >> sorry I just started finishing reading the wikipage about dvorak. > > > From the Gnome desktop, use the system -> preferences -> keyboard -> > layouts menu to select "USA Dvorak"

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand -> dvorak

2012-02-04 Thread Russell L. Harris
* lina [120204 16:12]: > > How do I start the dvorak? > sorry I just started finishing reading the wikipage about dvorak. >From the Gnome desktop, use the system -> preferences -> keyboard -> layouts menu to select "USA Dvorak" (a regrettable compromise) or "USA Classic Dvorak" (the original an

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-04 Thread lina
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:18:55 +0800, lina wrote in message > <4f2ca39f.70...@gmail.com>: > >> On Saturday 04,February,2012 03:15 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 18:57, lina  wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> are there some suggesti

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-04 Thread lina
On 4 Feb, 2012, at 21:56, Lisi wrote: > On Saturday 04 February 2012 13:47:01 lina wrote: >>> ..if you're changing your keyboard habits anyway, follow the >>> dvorak advice, it's a more dramatic change that will help stop >>> you from falling back into your bad qwerty habits, also because >>> i

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-04 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 04 February 2012 13:47:01 lina wrote: > > ..if you're changing your keyboard habits anyway, follow the > > dvorak advice, it's a more dramatic change that will help stop > > you from falling back into your bad qwerty habits, also because > > it's about 40% speedier once you're up to spe

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-04 Thread lina
On Saturday 04,February,2012 09:33 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:18:55 +0800, lina wrote in message <4f2ca39f.70...@gmail.com>: On Saturday 04,February,2012 03:15 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 18:57, lina wrote: Hi, are there some suggestions about how to t

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:18:55 +0800, lina wrote in message <4f2ca39f.70...@gmail.com>: > On Saturday 04,February,2012 03:15 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 18:57, lina wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? > >> > >> for weeks, I fel

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-04 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Dotan Cohen [120203 19:21]: > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 20:08, Russell L. Harris > wrote: > I thought that heat promotes circulation, not cold. That the ice pack promotes circulation is simply my supposition, and may be wrong. The focus and emphasis of the podiatrist was the reduction of inflam

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-04 Thread Arno Schuring
lina (lina.lastn...@gmail.com on 2012-02-04 00:57 +0800): > Hi, > > are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? > > for weeks, I felt the hand especially the thumb get strengh-less in > typing, and kinda of stiff, I've never hand problems with my hands, it's always been wrist or

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread lina
On Saturday 04,February,2012 03:15 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 18:57, lina wrote: Hi, are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? for weeks, I felt the hand especially the thumb get strengh-less in typing, and kinda of stiff, I can't avoid using mouse ( even

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:57:28AM +0800, lina wrote: > Hi, > > are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? > > for weeks, I felt the hand especially the thumb get strengh-less in > typing, and kinda of stiff, > > I can't avoid using mouse ( even has changed to a light one) and >

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread Lisi
On Friday 03 February 2012 19:19:49 doug wrote: > On 02/03/2012 12:39 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Freitag, 3. Februar 2012 schrieb lina: > >> Hi, > >> > >> are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? > >> > >> for weeks, I felt the hand especially the thumb get strengh-less

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread doug
On 02/03/2012 12:39 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Freitag, 3. Februar 2012 schrieb lina: Hi, are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? for weeks, I felt the hand especially the thumb get strengh-less in typing, and kinda of stiff, I can't avoid using mouse ( even has chang

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 20:08, Russell L. Harris wrote: > Here is an anecdote which you may find of interest: > > A podiatrist used an x-ray image to diagnose inflammation due to a > ligament in the process of being torn.  The inflammation was casing > severe pain. > > The podiatrist recommended ap

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread richard
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:57:28 +0800 lina wrote: > Hi, > > are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? > > for weeks, I felt the hand especially the thumb get strengh-less in > typing, and kinda of stiff, > > I can't avoid using mouse ( even has changed to a light one) and > key

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 18:57, lina wrote: > Hi, > > are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? > > for weeks, I felt the hand especially the thumb get strengh-less in typing, > and kinda of stiff, > > I can't avoid using mouse ( even has changed to a light one) and keyboard, > goog

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread John Hasler
lina writes: > are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? Exercises. Lots on the Net. Here is an example: Rather than doing all your hand exercises at once in the morning stop every once in a while while typing

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread Russell L. Harris
* lina [120203 17:00]: > Hi, > > are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? > > for weeks, I felt the hand especially the thumb get strengh-less in > typing, and kinda of stiff, > > I can't avoid using mouse ( even has changed to a light one) and > keyboard, googled some way, a

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 3. Februar 2012 schrieb lina: > Hi, > > are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? > > for weeks, I felt the hand especially the thumb get strengh-less in > typing, and kinda of stiff, > > I can't avoid using mouse ( even has changed to a light one) and > keyboard, go

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread green
Camaleón wrote at 2012-02-03 11:04 -0600: > On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:57:28 +0800, lina wrote: > > are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? > > Workrave? A better mouse/trackball? Hire an assistant robot? :-) Dvorak keyboard/layout? signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread Julien Claassen
Hi Lina! This is usually a sign of holding your hand wrong. You might try slightly different positions at your desk. Slide your keyboard closer, try putting your chair up or down, see if you can rest your hand on something slightly, while writing. I tend to get handaches, when I'm reading for

Re: [OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:57:28 +0800, lina wrote: > are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? (...) Workrave? A better mouse/trackball? Hire an assistant robot? :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "un

[OT] how to take care of hand

2012-02-03 Thread lina
Hi, are there some suggestions about how to take care of hand? for weeks, I felt the hand especially the thumb get strengh-less in typing, and kinda of stiff, I can't avoid using mouse ( even has changed to a light one) and keyboard, googled some way, a bit horrible, someone even said need d