Re: Documentation (Was: Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to ...)

1997-01-17 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: Fabien Ninoles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... > On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Daniel S. Barclay wrote: ... > > Good. :-) I HATE that "feature" of Windows 95. ... ... > > Oh...yeah; sorry. Okay. > > #undef HATE_MICROSOFT_MODE > > > > have you succesfully compiled anything after this? ... No, althoug

Re: Documentation (Was: Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to ...)

1997-01-16 Thread Fabien Ninoles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- First my apologizes about being a little "spicy" in my respond. I don't know which kind of meat I was eating this day... :) On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Daniel S. Barclay wrote: > > > From: Fabien Ninoles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Daniel S. Barc

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to ...)

1997-01-16 Thread woodja
On Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:40:34 -0500 "Daniel S. Barclay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> From: Fabien Ninoles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Daniel S. Barclay wrote: >> >> > However, how are users supposed to find out about those things? >> > (Not to say your suggestion is bad, but

Re: Documentation (Was: Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to ...)

1997-01-16 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: John Labovitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... > a related question -- has there been any thought of moving the debian > changelog entries into the Packages files themselves? when i run > dselect and it tells me there are updates, i would like to see what > the changelogs are before necessarily

Re: Documentation (Was: Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to ...)

1997-01-16 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: Fabien Ninoles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Daniel S. Barclay wrote: > > > However, how are users supposed to find out about those things? > > (Not to say your suggestion is bad, but to address how to make that > > information easier to find.) > > What about a "Tip of the

Re: Documentation (Was: Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to ...)

1997-01-15 Thread John Labovitz
Fabien Ninoles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Daniel S. Barclay wrote: > > > 3. Keep in mind that it's hard to keep up with constantly-changing > > documentation. That is, a new user probably would read all > > the HOWTOs, README files, etc., to get started, but after

Re: Documentation (Was: Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to ...)

1997-01-15 Thread Fabien Ninoles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Daniel S. Barclay wrote: > However, how are users supposed to find out about those things? > (Not to say your suggestion is bad, but to address how to make that > information easier to find.) What about a "Tip of the day" package in place o

Documentation (Was: Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to ...)

1997-01-15 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: Rick Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... the manual pages have fallen out of context... and there is > > no index table to get a quick look at where to begin. > > Not so! > > Consider installing tkman, rman and glimpse, all in non-free. > This requires tcl/tk, too. > > Of course, thi

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-14 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote: > > daniel, you wrote: > > >> You mean BIGGER documentation for X, is gonna get someone to RTFM? :-) > > > >No, but providing needed information might. > > Actually, I find it hard to browse through the manual pages in search of an > item. It's there

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-14 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: "Orn E. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > daniel, you wrote: > > >> You mean BIGGER documentation for X, is gonna get someone to RTFM? := > -) > > > >No, but providing needed information might. > > Actually, I find it hard to browse through the manual pages in search of = > an > item

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-14 Thread Orn E. Hansen
daniel, you wrote: >> You mean BIGGER documentation for X, is gonna get someone to RTFM? :-) > >No, but providing needed information might. Actually, I find it hard to browse through the manual pages in search of an item. It's there... somewhere... but it may take some reading getting there t

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-14 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: "Orn E. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > From: Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > = > > > > > I figured it out by reading the XF86Config man page and all the > > > > keyboard description files, and working backwards. Perhaps I should > > > > put a mini-HOWTO on my todo list

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-11 Thread Orn E. Hansen
> > > From: Steve Dunham <[emailprotected]> > > > I figured it out by reading the XF86Config man page and all the > > keyboard description files, and working backwards. Perhaps I should > > put a mini-HOWTO on my todo list... > > Sounds like an X or XFree86 bug (insufficient documentation). >

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-11 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I figured it out by reading the XF86Config man page and all the > keyboard description files, and working backwards. Perhaps I should > put a mini-HOWTO on my todo list... Sounds like an X or XFree86 bug (insufficient documentation). Daniel -- TO UN

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-10 Thread Steve Dunham
"Daniel S. Barclay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > From: Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > What's the best way to swap the Caps Lock and left > > > > > Control keys under X windows? > > > I just read the config files and man XF86Config. Add the following > > to the Keyboard sec

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-08 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hello, > My system (1.2, from Infomagic CDs) doesn't seem to have it. I have > the manual pages, but no such executable (either installed or listed > in the Contents file). Which specific package is it in? I think there is a dependencie missing. Hmm.. no its not missing.. hmm.. some systems mi

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-07 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Eckenfels) > Why dont u use the grafical setup tool XF86Setup? There is a menu point for > configuration of the keyboard. It will display the keyboards you may select > and allows you to use checkboxes for the options. > > This tool should be started automatical

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-06 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
> Where's the documentation on that? It seems to be hiding pretty well here > on my system. E.g., the XF86Config man page doesn't seem to say what options > can go in the options after "XbdOptions". > > Also, why do you suggest "microsoft"? (How do I see what all that would get > me?) Why do

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control - more info. and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-06 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: "Orn E. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Thanks for the information, thought not for the possible attitude. (Ho= > w > > would someone know to look in xmodmap?) > > = > > There was no attitude... apologies if I sounded that way. Oh, okay. Sorry I mis-perceived your message. Da

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-06 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > What's the best way to swap the Caps Lock and left > > > > Control keys under X windows? > I just read the config files and man XF86Config. Add the following > to the Keyboard section of XF86Config: > > XkbRules "xfree86" > XkbModel "

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control - more info. and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-05 Thread Orn E. Hansen
> > Thanks for the information, thought not for the possible attitude. (How > would someone know to look in xmodmap?) > There was no attitude... apologies if I sounded that way. -- Ørn Einar Hansen

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control - more info. and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-05 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: "Daniel S. Barclay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... > > Put those lines into a file, and then run 'xmodmap [file]' and the > > Control_Left and Caps_Lock keys change places. With or without the > > extension. > > After some digging (through startx and xinitrc scripts), I found that the > _rig

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-05 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I just read the config files and man XF86Config. Add the following > to the Keyboard section of XF86Config: > > XkbRules "xfree86" > XkbModel "microsoft" > XkbLayout "us" > XkbOptions "ctrl:swapcaps" > > If you want the control keys _a

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control - more info. and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-05 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: "Orn E. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > What's the best way to swap the Caps Lock and left > > > > Control keys under X windows? = > > > > It's right in the man page for xmodmap: Thanks for the information, thought not for the possible attitude. (How would someone know to look i

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-04 Thread Steve Dunham
"Alexander Gieg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What's the best way to swap the Caps Lock and left > > > Control keys under X windows? > > > > It's right in the man page for xmodmap: > In X Windows 3.1.2 this will work fine, but in 3.2 > you will need to disable the new XKBD extensions and

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-03 Thread Orn E. Hansen
> > > What's the best way to swap the Caps Lock and left > > > Control keys under X windows? > > > > It's right in the man page for xmodmap: > Absolutely correct... remove lock = Caps_Lock remove control = Control_L keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock add lock = Caps_Lo

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-03 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Alexander Gieg wrote: > > > What's the best way to swap the Caps Lock and left > > > Control keys under X windows? > > > > It's right in the man page for xmodmap: > > In X Windows 3.1.2 this will work fine, but in 3.2 > you will need to disable the new XKBD extensions and >

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-02 Thread Alexander Gieg
> > What's the best way to swap the Caps Lock and left > > Control keys under X windows? > > It's right in the man page for xmodmap: In X Windows 3.1.2 this will work fine, but in 3.2 you will need to disable the new XKBD extensions and use the old xmodmap method. The XKBD has only one problem

Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-02 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Wed, 1 Jan 1997, Daniel S. Barclay wrote: > What's the best way to swap the Caps Lock and left Control keys under > X windows? It's right in the man page for xmodmap: One of the more irritating differences between keyboards is the location of the Control and Shift Lo

[1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys

1997-01-01 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
Another newbie-to-recent-changes question: What's the best way to swap the Caps Lock and left Control keys under X windows? (I used loadkeys to do that for the virtual console. In my old system, I don't know if I forget some X customization I did, or if my old system read the virtual console