ot;add", ATTR{address}=="00:11:25:86:61:87",
NAME="net0"
This rule will assign the Ethernet adapter with MAC address 00:11:25:86:61:87
the interface name net0. Reference the interface by this name in
/etc/network/interfaces.
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I have received much benefit over the years as a user of open source
software. The docs are my attempt at giving something back.
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For more information about building a custom kernel, see
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as
good as I can. Here's the link:
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>
> ...
> The first two "image" entries define the standard "most recent" and
> "next-most recent" kernels and don't need to be messed with, provided
> that the standard symbolic link names are
On Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 20:49, Stephen Powell wrote:
> ...
> One such program, memtest86+, provides a stand-alone memory testing
> program built to resemble a Linux kernel, so that Linuxboot loaders
> think it is a Linux kernel and will load it like one (the entire boot image is
&
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 11:38, Stephen Powell wrote:
>
> If there are special kernels that you want to be able to boot which are
> outside
> the normal "last two", then you must manually edit /etc/lilo.conf to provide
> the capability to boot this kernel, then run lil
ng web page where there are execs called
zy-symlinks which will provide equivalent function for custom kernels.
If there are special kernels that you want to be able to boot which are outside
the normal "last two", then you must manually edit /etc/lilo.conf to provide
the capability to boot this kernel, then run lilo.
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>
> I did notice one thing peculiar. startx output is written to the terminal
> of vt1, of course, even though it's running as a background task. And I got
> the error message
>
> modprobe: FATAL: Module mach64 not
error message
modprobe: FATAL: Module mach64 not found in directory /lib/modules/xxx
where xxx is the identity of the running kernel. Strange. The kernel has
never had a mach64 module in it, as far as I know. mach64 is the name
of the X driver, but there is no kernel module by that name.
I obviously don't like using this work-around, but I can at least limp
along until somebody somewhere fixes this problem.
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> To determine which module to blacklist, issue
>
>dmesg|less
>
> and see if you can figure out which module is loading. You can also issue
>
>lsmod|less
>
> to see which modules are loaded. Perhaps
a clue as to the identity of the frame
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> Le 02/08/2016 à 02:28, Stephen Powell a écrit :
>> My original point remains. If one's computer has less than 4 GiB of
>> memory installed, and the processor does not support the XD/NX bit, then
>> running a 32-b
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016, at 19:30, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 01/08/2016 à 04:02, Stephen Powell a écrit :
>>
>> To the best of my knowledge, there are no 32-bit-only processors which
>> support the NX bit. A 32-bit PAE-enabled kernel can only use NX if it
>> is running on
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016, at 19:07, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 01/08/2016 à 00:00, Stephen Powell a écrit :
>> one's processor supports PAE, but the motherboard only supports a maximum of
>> 2 GiB of RAM, what does a PAE kernel buy one? Nothing, as far as I can see.
>
> P
here and try to tell us that we should be doing
things the way Ubuntu does. We're different for a reason. I'm not saying
there isn't room for improvement: I'm sure there is. But asking questions
is one thing. Telling us we should be like Ubuntu is another.
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As I understand it, the AMD Geode processor is one instruction short
of the full Pentium Pro instruction set: NOPL. But it appears that
the GCC compiler has been modified to not generate NOPL instructions when
"-march i686" is used. Therefore, the AMD Geode should qualify.
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necessarily *need* to run a PAE kernel. Some prefer to run a non-PAE kernel
because it's easier on the memory requirements. But the processor must
support the Pentium Pro instruction set, which all Pentium Ms do.
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in the testing release of the installer that was fixed before it became the
stable installer is not likely one that I would have encountered.
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P.S. I apologize for the broken thread. My e-mail client does not appear to
provide a way to set the "In-reply-to" header, and I've already deleted your
original e-mail.
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CSM-less UEFI systems may fail in the marketplace. There have been attempts
in the past to eliminate 16-bit support which failed. We'll just have to
wait and see.
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> On Sat 09 Jul 2016 at 16:41:24 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
>>
>> Long live choice!
>
> For choice to exist it does not have to be presented as such in the
> installer.
>
Your point is well taken. The installer does not
om installers trying to do what I don't want or need done
If you do the installation in expert mode, you can skip the step to install a
boot loader. But that's in interactive mode. I've never done an automated
installation, so I don't know what can and cannot be done in that environment.
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systems, there's elilo as a grub alternative.
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> Stephen Powell composed on 2016-07-09 08:58 (UTC-0400):
>
>> As for features, LILO has all the features that I need.
>
> One feature it never acquired AFAIK, which Grub shares with Syslinux, is the
> ability to edit the k
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016, at 20:53, Felix Miata wrote:
> Stephen Powell composed on 2016-07-07 20:30 (UTC-0400):
>
> > If your system has a BIOS and a traditional DOS-style partition table,
> > there's no reason not to use LILO, unless you just don't want to.
>
>
hat big.
If your system has a BIOS and a traditional DOS-style partition table,
there's no reason not to use LILO, unless you just don't want to.
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to hack. But if you really
want to do it, edit the file /etc/ssh/sshd_config. In the
# Authentication
section, look for
Permitrootlogin no
and change it to
Permitrootlogin yes
then bounce the ssh daemon with
/etc/init.d/ssh restart
As I said, it's not recommended;
but it's your gun, your bullet, and your foot!
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> The "info" command in jessie has a tutorial which can be accessed by pressing
> the "H" key.
Oops!, I meant to say the "h" key, not the "H" key. Otherwise, the question
remains as written.
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>
> On 21/01/16 09:41 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
>>
>> What does chrome give you that chromium does not?
>
> Nothing that I know of...but I thought that staying with the Google
> product is just simpler. I've
u really need
chrome? What does chrome give you that chromium does not?
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> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:57:41 -0500 (EST), Nicolas George wrote:
>> ...
>> I noticed that LILO seems to be actually capable
>> of finding the sectors for files on LVM.
>
> In the general case, the s
re are no rules for the use of unallocated sectors.
And grub-legacy and grub-pc (by default at least) now do a similar thing.
They store information in unallocated sectors. That's one of the
reasons (but not the only reason) that I switched back to LILO.
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> addressed, but all this suggest that the OP should install GRUB instead of
> LILO and be done with that kind of trouble.
As subsequent posts have indicated, the trouble was with an incorrect UUID.
It had nothing to do with the OP's choice of boot loader.
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wrong track
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 10:31:54 -0500 (EST), Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
> Could he not dd them onto another drive?
> ...
He can copy the /boot data to another drive, not necessarily
with dd. In fact, if he wants to be able to remove the
existing IDE drive, he must. But he cannot copy it to an
LVM2 logical
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 10:36:48 -0500 (EST), David Baron wrote:
>
> On Monday 21 December 2015 10:25:15 Stephen Powell wrote:
>>
>> Obviously, the LILO map file is on the IDE drive. Is your /boot partition
>> on the IDE drive? If so, you cannot remove it. The /boo
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 04:50:00 -0500 (EST), David Baron wrote:
>
> Went through all the motions, both ways: On native and chroot. Results were
> the same. Get in that loop of lv not ready messages. Difference: Native
> attempt still needs the IDE plugged in or I get 99 99 99 ... , chroot does
>
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:51:22 -0500 (EST), David Baron wrote:
>
> So ... do I need the chroot and the binds and all this at all?
That's the recommended way. Make sure that the edited copies of
/etc/lilo.conf, /etc/fstab, and /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume,
in the chrooted environment, all mak
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 05:58:47 -0500 (EST), David Baron wrote:
>
> OK, mounted newrootpartition newroot
> Did a cp -x / newroot
> Successful so far, elementary
>
> Edited newroot/etc/fstab and newroot/etc/lilo.conf to point root to
> newrootpartition (by uuid)
>
> mount --bind /dev newroot/dev
>
On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:55:43 -0500 (EST), Gener Badenas wrote:
>
> How much is the hosting now and with whom?
$48 for hosting, $9.00 for domain registration, total $57.
Good for one year. I'll have to pay again next year.
I decided to go with debian-hosting.info. So far, I haven't
yet figured o
On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:36:44 -0500 (EST), Martin Read wrote:
> On 08/12/15 16:58, Darac Marjal wrote:
>>
>> To which, the venerable W3C replied "Cool URIs don't change":
>> http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html
>
> Your criticism is invalid, given that the action that has clearly been
> taken
Old site: h t t p : / / u s e r s . w o w w a y . c o m / ~ z l i n u x m a n /
New site: http://www.stevesdebianstuff.org/
If you have bookmarks set for the old site you should update your bookmarks.
Some pages from the old site are not on the new site because I judged them
to be obsolete.
On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 18:43:13 -0500 (EST), Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
> I ma assuming (or subconsciously remembering) that you are in the USA. Is
> that correct?
Hi, Lisi. Yes, that's correct. I hope you won't hold that against me. :-)
Wow used to offer free web hosting to subscribers to their ca
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 10:15:08 -0500 (EST), mister s jones wrote:
> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 09:49:47 Stephen Powell wrote:
>> So, does anyone wish to share their experiences, good or bad? Is there
>> anyone you wish to recommend? Is there anyone you want to warn me to stay
&g
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 20:31:29 -0500 (EST), Bob Bernstein wrote:
> ...
> With that as background, here is my question/request: is anyone
> aware of a spirited defence of our ideal method of "selective
> quoting," (for lack of a better label) one, say, that perhaps
> has achieved the status of a "n
I currently get my internet connectivity, e-mail service, and web-hosting
service from the same provider. I recently complained to my ISP about
backscatter SPAM I was getting from other people's infected machines
that were sending out SPAM to invalid e-mail addresses and spoofing me
as the sender.
w, but IIRC, this works for install but not for
safe-upgrade or full-upgrade.
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installation of another package: apt-show-versions.)
I'm curious, though. Do you use the C shell? Or did you just customize
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> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 10:29:48 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote:
>> Does anyone know an easy way to identify obsolete packages without
>> using aptitide?
>
> deborphan --guess-all
According to
ferent.
That's not the same thing as an obsolete package. An obsolete package
may have been manually installed, but it's still obsolete, and I
need to be able to identify it as such.
Does anyone know an easy way to identify obsolete packages without
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Make sure that you have the contrib and the non-free sections of the
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hacked, just spoofed. I will report this to my ISP. Thanks to all
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But if you have problems, you're on your own. That was a few years ago.
Maybe it's better now.
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a password to be "discovered".
Having said that, it looks like someone else's credentials may have been
used, based on some other posts to this thread. But I am not an expert
in these matters. That's why I asked for help.
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> use public [or otherwise open] WiFi -- if you don't run it yourself or
> you totally trust the person whom is running it, then leave it alone.
That may have been the case for Stuart's friend, but it is not the case
with me. I use only wired ethernet.
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 04:15:21 -0400 (EDT), Jochen Spieker wrote:
>
> Stuart Longland:
>> On 13/10/15 09:58, Stephen Powell wrote:
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I don't. Attached below is one of the mail delivery
>>> failure notices, which includes the head
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In short, I have not "handed it over".
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X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1081
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run Debian. The machine with the Nvidia card runs Debian 8. The
machine with the ATI card used to run Debian 8, but now runs what will
become Debian 9. Perhaps I could have been one of those who might have
provided some help. But you've given up without asking for help, so that
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fakeroot debian/rules clean1
to do a clean, rather than the usual
fakeroot debian/rules clean
I don't know if this helps or not.
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> What a great contribution!
>
> My null-modem cable ought to still be around here somewhere!
>
> :-)
I try to focus on the latest technology.
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Done. Refresh the page and see if that's what you had in mind.
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enabling a serial terminal under systemd. If you then have any questions,
please post a follow-up.
Sven and Michael, please review this also and correct me if I made a mistake.
I do not want to publish bad advice.
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On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 16:06:35 -0400 (EDT), Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 06.09.2015 um 21:04 schrieb Stephen Powell:
>> ...
>>[Service]
>>ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty -8 --noclear %I 38400 ibm3151
>>
>> But when I restart the service, I get the following error
> But it is the way systemd is designed and you can either work with it or
> fight it every centimeter of the way.
>
Well, Sven, that's a nice idea, but I can't get it to work for me in this
situation. I issued
systemctl edit serial-getty@ttyS0.service
and placed the f
On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 08:07:32 -0400 (EDT), Sven Joachim wrote:
>
> On 2015-09-06 12:31 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> Some monitors have invalid EDID checksums. Blame the manufacturer.
>> Windows is more tolerant of EDID checksum errors than Linux is.
>> If switching moni
id_strict=0
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>
> Am 03.09.2015 um 03:14 schrieb Stephen Powell:
>> Do you know a similar technique for overriding individual udev rules in
>> a system-provided rules file?
>
> A similar mechanism exists for udev rule
uot;systemctl edit unitname" and it will create the needed directory
> structure in the correct place for you.
Thanks for the tip, Sven. I'll try to incorporate your suggestion in the
next revision of my serial console document. With luck, I may get to it
this weekend.
Do you know a similar technique for overriding individual udev rules in
a system-provided rules file?
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> running Jessie, it doesn't work.
> ...
I realize that you already have a resolution to your problem, but if you're
using serial consoles on Debian Linux, you might find some useful information
here:
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>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 06:45:10AM -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> Furtherfore, a non-PAE kernel is
>> useful even on PAE-capable hardware. The main purpose of PAE is to
>> address memory above 4G. But
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 06:28:53 -0400 (EDT), Bret Busby wrote:
>
> On 15/08/2015, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> ...
>> My IBM ThinkPad X31 laptop, which is still quite usable,
>> would be a brick if I ran Ubuntu. It has a Pentium M
>> processor in it, and that processor do
ou know where to look. But I do not wish to argue about it.
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It has a Pentium M processor in it, and that processor does not have
the PAE feature.
Long live pure Debian! And kudos to the Debian kernel team!
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looked back.
XFCE is my standard desktop now. When doing new installs on new
machines, I install XFCE as the desktop by selecting it as the desktop
of choice in the Debian installer. If I were to start over from scratch
today, I might try LXDE. But I'm happy with XFCE, and I see no compelling
reason to change at this point.
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is a compelling reason to change. That's my two cents worth. Take it
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the usenet style of interleaved quoting here, not top-posting. (I haven't
seen you top post yet, but I'm just letting you know since you're new.)
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ve still got LibreOffice Writer installed if I need
a word processor.
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a clue how to fix this without purging the package, I'll try
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"Disable Screen Saver" in the drop-down box. Close the window.
For a text console, edit /etc/kbd/config and change BLANK_TIME to 0.
This requires root privileges to edit the file and a reboot
is necess
On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 21:51:05 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote:
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> Here's how I fixed it, or rather, how I worked around it.
> ...
For those of you who are interested, I wrote up what I learned about serial
terminals and
serial consoles and put it in my lilo web pa
y for not sending the right clear code. The other is in grotty
(probably) for not sending the right "turn off special modes" code.
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these things can be done on a line-mode (dumb)
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On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 04:01:10 -0400 (EDT), Bob Proulx wrote:
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> Stephen Powell wrote:
>> ...
>> But when I issue the MAN command, I see lower-case "m"s
>> at the end of each line.
>
> How does the terminal handle control-m carriage returns? Normally at
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