Re: Debian Stretch SELinux enforcing causes systemd --user unit to fail

to an higher version using the backports. Kind regards, Laurent Bigonville [0] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6120 [1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/6201/commits/51c7d5aa36e9ac0ec8ca6fef811a5f9deb7e4fd2

Re: Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

Greg Wooledge mailto:wooledg%40eeg.ccf.org>> wrote: On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 03:17:00PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 germinal, an CCXXV, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > Some day there will be actual end-user-friendly systemd documentation > > somewhere, consolidating all of these piec

Re: fprintd-enroll

Shahryar Afifi > wrote: after i enroll as super user i get the message " enroll resault: enroll compeleted" but when i log in as super user again, shell asks for password not finger authentication. Did you install the libpam-fprintd? It should configure the PA

Re: gdm3 doesn't work any more after the upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie 8.5

Jean-Paul Bouchet wrote: > [...] > Check that logind is properly installed and pam_systemd is getting used at login. > [...] Could you check if you have libpam-systemd package installed? And also please check if "loginctl" shows sessions. Cheers, Laurent Bigonville

Re: Re: System in broken state after dpkg upgrade

Don Armstrong wrote: That's basically because the policy wasn't fixed in time for the jessie release (see #756729 and #771484). If you're using selinux on Debian, it would probably be good to participate in the development of the default policy and refpolicy packages. Yes please

Re: Can't load X

e the things that require root privileges to it. Cheers, Laurent Bigonville

Re: Can't load X

. Cheers, Laurent Bigonville

Re: Okay, that's too much now!

eatures in its packages, why is libsystemd suddenly a problem? But if having libsystemd0 installed on your system is a problem for you, you still have the freedom to rebuild the packages to remove it Cheers, Laurent Bigonville

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

Le Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:18:36 +0100, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > Am Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2014, 08:35:00 schrieb Erwan David: > > Le 02/12/2014 23:15, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > > > Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2014, 18:47:38 schrieb Renaud OLGIATI: > > >> On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:22:13 -0700 > >

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

Le Mon, 1 Dec 2014 23:05:09 -0800, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > On Tue, 02 Dec 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > > On 2 December 2014 at 08:18, Patrick Bartek > > wrote: > > > On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote: > > > > > >> On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > >> > > [snip] > > > >

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

Le Mon, 01 Dec 2014 13:45:12 -0500, Miles Fidelman a écrit : > Ric Moore wrote: > > On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > >> I fear that once systemd is firmly entrenched in Debian as the > >> default init more distros will follow suit, and more and more > >> developers will start w

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

bugreport against udev with all the information like the fdisk output and such? I feel that even if the partition table is invalid, it shouldn't DoS udev. Thanks! Laurent Bigonville -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

Le Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:08:48 +, Martin Read a écrit : > On 16/11/14 17:33, Laurent Bigonville wrote: > > Are you aware that this is the approach that systemd and upstart > > have taken, right? > > > > 1) Both systemd (PID1) and upstart are drop-in replacement for t

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

Le Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:50:25 -0500, Miles Fidelman a écrit : [...] > So... with systemd, one has to: > - rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or, > - rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which > > In the later case, one just has to read: > http://www.freedesktop.or

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

so on... But then you cannot blame the systemd project for 3rd party software taking advantages of these new functionalities if they think they fit their usecases. Laurent Bigonville -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141116183351.3bd37...@fornost.bigon.be

Re: engineering management practices and systemd (Re: Installing an Alternative Init?)

Le Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:21:49 -0500, Marty a écrit : > On 11/15/2014 06:49 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [...] > > > > At least some of people rejecting systemd demand that it be removed > > completely, including libsystemd. How is it pro-choice to forbid me > > from being able to use a software at it

Re: engineering management practices and systemd (Re: Installing an Alternative Init?)

Le Fri, 14 Nov 2014 12:26:09 +0200, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : > On Vi, 14 nov 14, 08:59:11, Joel Rees wrote: [...] > > > So Fedora is not, itself, really ready yet, except for two groups, a > > certain group of workstation users who want and are willing to use > > fairly new, relatively high-end

Re: what's the difference btw. libelf1 and libelfg0?

Le Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:09:05 -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit : > On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Christian Groessler wrote: > > Ignoring the freebsd version, I'm wondering what's the difference > > between libelf1 and libelfg0. They seem to be built from the same > > sources, 'apt-get source' retrieves the sam

Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

Le Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:29:27 -0200, Andre N Batista a écrit : > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 06:23:26PM +0100, Laurent Bigonville wrote: > > Le Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:58:33 -0500, > > Tanstaafl a écrit : > > > > > On 11/11/2014 9:26 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

Le Wed, 12 Nov 2014 06:10:55 -0500, Tanstaafl a écrit : > On 11/11/2014 3:33 PM, Miles Fidelman > wrote: > > Actually, there's a patch (thank you Kenshi). It has not been > > applied. Hence, to use it right now, one has to build a custom > > version of the installer. I hope, that post the init

Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

Le Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:58:33 -0500, Tanstaafl a écrit : > On 11/11/2014 9:26 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > Blaming the Debian project for letting the Debian distribution > > evolve in ways defined by its volunteers is unfair. > > Eh? My understanding is that this systemd mess is due to a

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

Le Tue, 11 Nov 2014 07:42:33 -0500, Tanstaafl a écrit : > On 11/10/2014 6:18 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Am 11.11.2014 um 00:14 schrieb Miles Fidelman: > >> Ok, then explain to me the procedure for running the installer in > >> such a way that systemd is never installed, thus avoiding any > >>

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

Le Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:47:35 +0200, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : > On Lu, 10 nov 14, 21:12:10, Lee Winter wrote: > > > > Of all the options available in the NON-expert installer, the > > choice of init alternatives might not warrant a user selection > > option, but all of the _consequences_ of that

Re: "Lennart Poettering Linux" -- some real eye openers here ... don't be blindsided!

Le Mon, 10 Nov 2014 09:51:49 -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : [...] > > If so, what happened to "Linux is all about freedom of choice" ? GNU/Linux is maybe about "freedom of choice" but GNU/Linux distributions have never been. You see the difference? Distribution are integrators that some

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

Le Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:16:09 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : > Le 09.11.2014 05:05, Hendrik Boom a écrit : > > On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 09:32:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> 1. What are your issues, reasons for doing so - general and/or > >> specific? > > > > I've had trouble with

Re: Mount order after systemd update

to file it, then I > realised it would be worth submitting a patch for such a simple bug. Yes please, I adopted plymouth a few months ago and as English is not my first language I would be really happy if someone could provide me a proper description. Please file a bugreport with the "mi

Re: Mount order after systemd update

usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/plymouth, could you add "set -x" just after the already existing "set -e" and try again? the output should be more verbose. Laurent Bigonville -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsu

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

Le Tue, 04 Nov 2014 22:00:12 -0500, Miles Fidelman a écrit : [...] > - SUSE seems to be moving down the systemd path, but with less > aggregation (e.g., systemd w/o journald) I personally didn't checked, but I can bet money on it if you want, that SLES 12 is doing _exactly_ what debian IS doin

Re: How to use the network-manager-strongswan

Le Wed, 05 Nov 2014 21:41:04 +0800, Gulfstrean Wang a écrit : > Hello, Hello, > I want to use the network-manager-strongswan to connect ikev2 vpn > server, but I can not find how to configure the > network-manager-strongswan via UI or configuration file. Could you > tell me how to use it if you

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

Le Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:26:40 -0500, Miles Fidelman a écrit : > Laurent Bigonville wrote: > > Le Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:57:20 -0500, > > Jerry Stuckle a écrit : > > > >> On 11/4/2014 4:41 PM, Laurent Bigonville wrote: > >>> Le Tue, 04 Nov 2014 2

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

Le Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:57:20 -0500, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : > On 11/4/2014 4:41 PM, Laurent Bigonville wrote: > > Le Tue, 04 Nov 2014 21:08:50 +0100, > > Peter Nieman a écrit : > > > >> On 04/11/14 19:04, Laurent Bigonville wrote: > >>> Using the thr

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

Le Tue, 04 Nov 2014 21:08:50 +0100, Peter Nieman a écrit : > On 04/11/14 19:04, Laurent Bigonville wrote: > > Using the threat of forking to make people change their mind > > I didn't threaten anybody. > > > do not send 100 mails to ML's > > I didn

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

Le Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:22:32 +0100, Peter Nieman a écrit : > On 04/11/14 03:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > On 11/3/2014 8:36 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > > > >> I suppose it may be polemic to assert that forking debian and > >> setting up a new community would be labor-intensive, fractious, > >> divisiv

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

Le Tue, 04 Nov 2014 01:29:52 +, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard a écrit : > Laurent Bigonville: > > The systemd umbrella project is made of 10+ different executables > > that have all a specific scope (systemd PID1 used to manage the > > life cycles of the daemons, syst

Re: Mount order after systemd update

ver, this prevents correct startup > and gives me an emergency console. I guess you could write a .mount unit file if lvmetad is not helping, you should be able to express dependencies there. Cheers, Laurent Bigonville -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

Le Sat, 01 Nov 2014 14:24:28 -0400, Miles Fidelman a écrit : > Laurent Bigonville wrote: > > Le Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:56:30 -0400, > > Miles Fidelman a écrit : > > > >> Steve McIntyre wrote: > >>> Miles Fidelman wrote: > >>>> Martin Read

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

Le Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:56:30 -0400, Miles Fidelman a écrit : > Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> Martin Read wrote: > >>> On 01/11/14 01:53, lee wrote: > It doesn't need these code paths. The library doesn't do > anything unless you do have the software actually runn

Re: Preventing the computer from shutting down.

Le Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:11:25 -0600, Mario Castelán Castro a écrit : > Hello. Hello, > I can set up a script for backup with cron or anacron, but how can I > prevent the computer from shutting down while the backup is being > performed so as to not to leave it incomplete?. If you are using sy

Re: Suggestion for systemd and /usr on seperate partition

-tools >= 0.117 that is currently in unstable (and unfortunately blocked by some RC bugs). The newer version include the following change: * Mount /usr if present in the /etc/fstab on the mounted rootfs (Closes: #652459) I personally really hope this change will make it into jessi

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

Le Thu, 30 Oct 2014 02:24:27 -0400, Marty a écrit : > On 10/29/2014 06:53 AM, Laurent Bigonville wrote: > > Le Wed, 29 Oct 2014 00:52:54 -0400, > > Marty a écrit : [...] > >> By "problem" I meant what I consider the problem of not having an > >> ov

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

m" I meant what I consider the problem of not having an > overlap between old and new solutions, and no deprecation period or > warning. I don't argue that it should not be corrected. My point was > more of a policy and design strategy issue. There is NO functional change a

Re: Understanding DNS, Create an "Failover"

used in the specified order. The extra nameservers are used as backup if the previous one is not answering. There is no load balancing done here. "The algorithm used is to try a name server, and if the query times out, try the next, until out of name servers, then repeat trying all the name

Re: Who's locking down the code?

hat's going on here? You mean why is it better to either socket activate uuidd or run in from the start instead of making the library start it on demand? If so, I would suggest you to read Christian's mail: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg02380.html Cheers, Laurent Big

Re: Who's locking down the code?

daemon and sd-journal libraries > >> in this case. > >> > >> Laurent Bigonville > >> > > > > > > I have heard that argument before. I counter that it's about more > > than PID1. It seems

Re: Who's locking down the code?

John Hasler wrote: > Slavko writes: > > IMO there can be two versions of these packages in the repositories, > > one which depends on systemd and one which don't depends on it, but > > i afraid, that there will be response: "not enough resources". > > Any developer can package and upload anything

Re: Who's locking down the code?

mean you have to run systemd as PID1. This is especially true for the sd-daemon and sd-journal libraries in this case. Laurent Bigonville > > > golinux > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: Re: Synaptic slow when Caribou is running after Gnome-shell update

Stephen Allen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 03:35:51PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Am 13.10.2014 um 12:06 schrieb Stephen Allen: > > > I too had experienced this, seems to be fixed as of yesterday. > > > Thanks Michael. > > > > Unfortunately, this is not fixed yet. > > Apparently the start