Le Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:56:30 -0400, Miles Fidelman <mfidel...@meetinghouse.net> a écrit :
> Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> Martin Read wrote: > >>> On 01/11/14 01:53, lee wrote: > >>>> It doesn't need these code paths. The library doesn't do > >>>> anything unless you do have the software actually running which > >>>> the library makes useable --- at least that's what was said. > >>>> > >>>> Of course, not all cases are the same, yet in this case, the > >>>> library shouldn't be installed unless the software it is for is > >>>> installed. > >>> Gentoo and Funtoo are ----> over there, just like they were > >>> months ago when you first started complaining about systemd on > >>> debian-user. > >>> > >>> If you move over to using them instead of Debian, you'll probably > >>> be happier (because you'll have more control over what software > >>> runs on your systems and how it's configured) and the Debian > >>> maintainers will probably be happier (because there will be one > >>> fewer person haranguing them for refusing to embrace > >>> combinatorial explosion). > >>> > >>> Everyone wins. > >> Right. This sounds more and more like "we're going to rewrite the > >> rules, and if you don't like it, we're taking our ball and going > >> home." > > Various people have tried to explain how a binary distribution like > > Debian works (build packages with all options included by defauls) > > and how shared libraries work on Linux (all the libraries need to > > be there to satisfy symbol resolution at run time, even if none of > > the code is ever used). When those explanations fell on deaf ears, > > people have resorted to analogy. That was clearly a waste of time > > too. > > > > These are standard "rules" that have existed for many years, there > > is no rewriting going on at all. Instead, it seems there are people > > who won't, or don't want to, understand explanations when given. For > > people who claim to have technical backgrounds, that's a surprising > > (and very frustrating) problem. > > > > Yeah... the Unix way... which systemd and it's pieces violate in so > many ways. Surprisingly 10th of different executables talking to each other using a common IPC mechanism (dbus here) seems to be really "unixy" to me... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141101175853.408f5...@fornost.bigon.be
