Interesting X crash

2003-01-06 Thread Gerald Livingston
OK, I have no details because it's not killing me or anything. Currently my box boots to GDM (sid). Works great. I'm thinking of killing that againbecause I do a lot of stuff remotely through ssh and read my mail via IMAP (Courier). Just want to free up the rescources since X isn't being used most

Re: Renaming files

2003-01-05 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:57:45 -0600 will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 01:19:59AM -0600, Gerald V. Livingston II > wrote: > > The script:cat ~/bin/names > > > > #!/bin/bash > > > > typeset -i a=1 > > > how about > > ls /t/*.jpg /t/*.JPG /t/*.jpeg 2>/dev/null

Re: Timing a program run?

2003-01-02 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:46:19 -0800 "Eric G. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 04:31:39AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:07:03 -0800 > > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > &

[OT] Cleaning up the output of a multiple file rename (bash)

2003-01-02 Thread Gerald Livingston
OK, I asked about timing my script because I'm renaming multiple files using "date +%s" as the base for the new name. I was using a "sleep 1" in the script to keep the filenames unique because it runs through them much faster than 1 per second. Too slow if I get a LOT of files. So I dug around and

Re: Timing a program run?

2003-01-02 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:07:03 -0800 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:57:10AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: > > How the heck do I time how long it takes a certain script to run? > > This isn't shell specific. And you're

Timing a program run?

2003-01-02 Thread Gerald Livingston
OK -- dumb question that I can't remember the answer to and can't find by googling. How the heck do I time how long it takes a certain script to run? I've searched the archives and google and apropos and apt-cache on all kinds of variations of "time" (timing, timer, etc) and can't find anything.

Re: initializing linux partitions after installation

2003-01-02 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 07:56:36 + "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, but it means you're going to want to move the directory and copy > its contents to the new mountpoint once you've created it: > > $ sudo bash > # cd / > # mv home home-bak > # mount /home > #

Re: AOL "art" files

2002-12-31 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:49:35 -0700 Mark Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 05:25:48PM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: > > Is there something that can view AOL "art" image files? My GF uses > > AOL and I can't break her of it. > --

AOL "art" files

2002-12-30 Thread Gerald Livingston
Is there something that can view AOL "art" image files? My GF uses AOL and I can't break her of it. That means I have an AOL email address that I access through mozilla. She sent an email to it with an attached image that says type image/x-art/base64/inline when I right click on it and choose "view

Re: run-parts

2002-12-30 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:21:18 -0500 Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 01:11:01PM -0600, Russ Cook wrote: > | On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > | > On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 12:51:33PM -0600, Russ Cook wrote: > | > > | > Why not use a dynamic DNS s

Re: Booting without a monitor: No Go

2002-12-26 Thread Gerald Livingston
On 27 Dec 2002 00:49:30 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 23:31, Curtis Spencer wrote: > > I have it set up for Halt On: no error on that BIOS setting, yet > > strangely I still cannot boot up. I disconnect all peripherals > > including the keyboard, but leave

Re: computer hypothermia -- help!

2002-12-25 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 10:24:49 -0600 Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > due to circumstances beyond my control, my computer has spend much of > the past four days in the trunk of various cars schlepping 1000 miles > across the frozen Midwest. i've done this lots of times before, but > usua

[OT] Procmail/metamail assistance

2002-12-25 Thread Gerald Livingston
OK, my eyes are burning from googling and reading man pages. I'd like to do the following: When a message comes in with an image attachment I would like that image saved to a file in a specific directory. I would also like any message body text saved to a file, and the original sender's name to an

Re: Sylpheed and mail client

2002-12-24 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 03:34:31 + Carlos Sousa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 18:29:24 -0500 Marc Shapiro wrote: > > Sometimes, when I receive mail-list digests, some of the message > > will display, but not all of it. > (...) > > Obviously, using a more complex, and less likel

Re: Help! Exim & verizon.net

2002-12-13 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:44:37 -0500 R Ransbottom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 05:20:55PM -0600, Gerald V. Livingston II > wrote: > > > > R Ransbottom said: > > > > > > > > I am trying to set up a debian mail server that > > > sees the world through incoming.verizon.net and

Re: What [OT] stands for?

2002-12-08 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:20:01 +0900 hiranokazunari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > Can anyone tell me what [OT] stands for, which I often see in the > message title box for this mailing list? > > Thanks. > > Nari [O]ff [T]opic -- Configure your Email to send TEXT ONLY -- See the f

Re: Webmail question

2002-11-29 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 16:00:40 -0500 "David Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks! I'll look into procmail.. > > I'm assuming its an MTA (replacement for exim)? > > - David > ----- Original Message - > From: "Gerald Livings

Re: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server ???

2002-11-28 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:00:56 +0100 Tobias Kraus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > daves debian wrote: > > > When i am logged in as a user, I want to execute an X program as > > > root, I type > > > su > > > > > > > ... > > > > > The X library has been refused by the X server, because root is > > > n

[PARTLY SOLVED - NEW QUESTION] Re: giving access to local X disply in procmail

2002-11-25 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 22:42:36 -0600 Gerald Livingston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've dug through documentation all over the place and no go so far. > > How can I let a procmail recipe pop up a display using xmessage if the > user owning the procmailrc happens to

giving access to local X disply in procmail

2002-11-25 Thread Gerald Livingston
I've dug through documentation all over the place and no go so far. How can I let a procmail recipe pop up a display using xmessage if the user owning the procmailrc happens to be logged in to a local xsession at the time it is processed? I keep getting the following error: procmail: Couldn't de

Re: Postfix server acting as relay !!!!

2002-11-25 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 17:53:59 -0800 Curtis Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I took your advice, except for the check_relay_domains, but > still I am relaying. I guess the intended recipients have FQDNs. > > check_relay_domains I am not using because originally that is what I > did, but

Re: Looking for a backup to CD-R(W) program

2002-11-25 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:08:53 -0500 (EST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Nahmias) wrote: > Chris, > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Linus himself said that using > dump on live (mounted) filesystems was a bad idea. I'll see if I can > dig up a reference to it... > > Thanks for your help! > Joe

Re: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes

2002-11-21 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:31:30 -0800 Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 01:16 AM 11/22/02 +, Colin Watson wrote: > >On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:03:38PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > >> This list allows non-subscribers to post, right? Why is that? > > > >If you've been around for a bit

Re: Visual notice for X

2002-11-21 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:49:20 +1100 Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:04:25AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: > > I'm working with osd_cat from the xosd packages right now. But since > > it backgrounds and doesn't open an actual window

Re: Visual notice for X

2002-11-19 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:41:01 -0500 Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Gerald Livingston said: > > What I am searching for is a way for my girlfriend to let me know > > she has arrived home from work without having to telephone me. It is &g

Postscript printer help

2002-11-18 Thread Gerald Livingston
I was given a postscript (level 2) capable color laser printer (HP Color LaserJet 5M). What should I use as a print spool setup? I've installed CUPS but it doesn't seem to be offering a plain postscript dump option. I located a .ps file on my system (/usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps) and just

Re: Visual notice for X

2002-11-18 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:37:36 +0700 Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 11:51:48PM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: > > Is there something that can be run in X that will force a "visual" > > notice of an event regardless of what window you ha

Visual notice for X

2002-11-18 Thread Gerald Livingston
Is there something that can be run in X that will force a "visual" notice of an event regardless of what window you happen to be looking at? I am usually in X now and always run apps maximized so changing the root background with xsetroot won't work (had considered that). Audio is out because I usu

unstabe to testing [was: Re: woody to testing]

2002-11-12 Thread Gerald Livingston
On a related note so I'm stealing the thread. On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:10:17 -0500 David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 3. Can I go back to woody after moving to testing? > > Not easily. Package downgrades aren't well supported. A couple of > people have tried to go back with varying degr

Re: exim, delivery to /home/user instead of /var/mail/user

2002-11-12 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Tue 12 Nov 2002 13:40:33 +0100 "Benedict Verheyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >What he was trying to put across is that in the DEFAULT Debian > >install of Exim any mail passed to it by fetchmail shuld > >automatically be delivered to /var/mail/{username}. If the user has a > >~/.procmailrc t

Re: exim, delivery to /home/user instead of /var/mail/user

2002-11-12 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Tue 12 Nov 2002 08:42:43 +0100 "Benedict Verheyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Make sure your pop lines have a "is 'userx' here" line to get the > >mail to the right users. > It does ha

Re: execute command from HTML page

2002-11-11 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:27:22 + Debian User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:44:33PM +1030, Barney Wrightson wrote: > > Actually you wouldn't even need the HTML at all, you could simply > > enter > > the address of the cgi script into your browser and load it to cause >

Re: Knoppix-Piggy and Debian installer

2002-11-10 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:52:01 -0500 Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Mark L. Kahnt said: > > You and me both fumbling at this - my hope was that there was > > something I was overlooking - maybe filtering or firewall (I've > > tried this with every part of thos

ssh port forwarding

2002-11-10 Thread Gerald Livingston
OK, got Woody working on the laptop. Now I seem to be having difficulty getting ssh port forwarding from the home machine to the woody laptop. Works fine forwarding port 143 from the home machine to port 143 on this winbox using Putty. On the laptop I'm using the ssh command line: ssh root@home

Re: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache

2002-11-10 Thread Gerald Livingston
wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:07:19AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: > > > > > I'd rather not use mutt because family members do send me funky > > > formatted mail sometimes and I also use multiple "From: " addresses, > > > depending on

Re: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache

2002-11-10 Thread Gerald Livingston
wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:07:19AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: > > > > > I'd rather not use mutt because family members do send me funky > > > formatted mail sometimes and I also use multiple "From: " addresses, > > > depending on

[Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache

2002-11-09 Thread Gerald Livingston
I don't know if any of you are stuck in this situation so I'll just ask. I have IMAP set up at home -- but when I'm at work I'm currently stuck using a win-box due to certain required applications. It's not a real healthy winbox as far as RAM and HD space goes or I'd look at setting up VMWare to h

Re: Restarting X after graphical login

2002-11-09 Thread Gerald Livingston
- Original Message - From: "Chris Lale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Well, I can use to run a different terminal session, > login and start a new instance of X with 'startx -- :1'. There are some > problems here: > > 1. X run the KDE desktop (not Gnome). This is not really a problem, but > it is

Re: restarting all services

2002-11-08 Thread Gerald Livingston
- Original Message - From: "Lance Hoffmeyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 23:03 Subject: restarting all services > How can I restart all services without rebooting? > > Lance > I normally 'telinit 2' which restarts everything at the same lev

Re: recover ext3 deletion

2002-11-08 Thread Gerald Livingston
- Original Message - From: "Paul Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 22:16 Subject: Re: recover ext3 deletion On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 03:58:52PM -0800, nate wrote: >> I too am very bad at backing up my personal data, I do back it up >> but i

Re: Segmentation faults in apropos

2002-10-31 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:40:08 -0800 Paul Mackinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Colin Watson declaimed: > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 04:35:15PM -0800, Paul Mackinney wrote: > > > I've been running Sid, for some time, lately I've started getting > > > segmentaion faults when I run apropos, as in the

Re: fetchmail or exim - what is failing?

2002-10-29 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:35:42 +0530 Sandip P Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hello all > > so far, i have set up exim properly. it is able to send messages. i > also used fetchmailconf and it created a .fetchmailrc file in ~. i > have checked and there is no .procmailrc or .forward file i

Re: Fetchmail / exim / courier imap

2002-10-28 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:09:56 +1100 "Joyce, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have an old 486/66 with debian, I though I might use it to get my > emails from several accounts. > > I have install fetchmail, configured exim and install courier imap. > > After creating a Maildir folder (mak

Re: sending email w/perl

2002-10-23 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:26:32 -0500 Lance Hoffmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a script where I am searching ebay > to get results and email these to myself. > The filehandle is FILE but everytime I > try to insert FILE into the $smtp it > prints "FILE" and not the contents of file. > Wha

Re: Spontaneous Rebooting while in X

2002-10-23 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:36:17 -0700 Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > This has happened to me a few times before, in 2.2 kernels and 2.4 > kernels. I'm not sure where I should start looking first, but I have a > feeling that the X server could be a factor. > > The last few times it

Virus scan again(sid)

2002-10-22 Thread Gerald Livingston
What are you sid people using for an MTA meshed virus scanner. I need to set up scanning to protect my mother and brother's winbox because they aren't that net-savvy. I'll be pulling their mail with fetchmail and feeding it through exim/procmail. I was setting up amavis-ng and couldn't get it work

Re: gdm, log in as root? - solution and new questions

2002-10-16 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:13:13 +0530 Sandip P Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oki DZ wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 11:00:33AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > > > >>and yes, is there any method of changing the display manager? say > >from >gdm to wdm to xdm to kdm etc? > > > > I belie

Re: p2p programs

2002-10-16 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 02:52:40 +0200 Gytis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone > > So , could all of you share your opinions about p2p software under > linux? I'm interested in kazaa and winmx networks ( edonkey for me > works fine under mldonkey). I used lopster as an alternative to winmx,

Re: mail server of a sorts

2002-10-15 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:56:15 -0400 Kevin Coyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it possible to do the following, or is there a better way ... > > Objective: setup a spare box that downloads mail for me and my family > from various POP3 servers. DL'd mail gets scanned for spam and then > is

Re: How does apt-get construt package uri?

2002-10-14 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 01:57:00 +0100 Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 08:46:20PM -0400, Try KDE wrote: > > Here is a harder question (in my opinion, anyway): given a http/ftp > > line in sources.list, what's apt's algorithm for retrieve the list > > of packages. For

Help with amavis-ng_exim installation?

2002-10-10 Thread Gerald Livingston
This is in my sent box but I never saw it hit the list from this end. One more try. G Installed amavis-ng and did the configs for exim. Everything works fine (using ~/.procmailrc for final delivery) with the amavis stuff commented out. Everything gets properly delivered to /var/mail/usernam

Re: MUA that supports MH-folders?

2002-10-10 Thread Gerald Livingston
On 10 Oct 2002 08:21:59 +0200 Jens Grivolla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gerald Livingston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > My gripe is that you cannot associate an account to a specific > > folder. > > You can, with the freshly released sylpheed-claws 0.8.

Re: ISPs are blocking port 445?

2002-10-10 Thread Gerald Livingston
On 10 Oct 2002 11:24:36 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 14:22, Tim Dijkstra wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 18:13:42 +0200 > > Tim Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I know it's rather silly to reply on your on post, but I did some > > more research...

Re: MUA that supports MH-folders?

2002-10-09 Thread Gerald Livingston
On 10 Oct 2002 00:01:46 +0200 Jens Grivolla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have been using sylpheed but would like to change because of a few > small inconveniences (e.g. no freely editable "From:", seemingly > messed up line wrap in sylpheed claws, ...) > > However, I have been unable

amavis-ng + exim setup problems

2002-10-09 Thread Gerald Livingston
Installed amavis-ng and did the configs for exim. Everything works fine (using ~/.procmailrc for final delivery) with the amavis stuff commented out. However, when I uncomment my amavis sections in /etc/exim/exim.conf I get the following error (and no mail delivery): 2002-10-09 17:08:02 Exim co

Re: Email virus scan questions

2002-10-09 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:32:09 +0200 martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Gerald Livingston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.08.2206 > +0200]: > > I had looked at amavis-exim -- amavis-ng looks better. What about > > sanitizer whose descriptio

Re: Mounting CD-R

2002-10-08 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 08:13:59 +0200 DSC Siltec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I got a new IDE CD-R, and swapped out my old CD. As of this > point, I am having trouble mounting it from Linux (Win98 works). I > have Woody. > > In my box, I have on the first cable: > DEV HDA1: Win98 > DEV CD-R

Re: Email virus scan questions

2002-10-08 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 21:54:02 +0200 martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Gerald Livingston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.08.2149 > +0200]: > > I did an apt-cache search virus and it came back with quite a few > > choices that seem feasible. Any

Email virus scan questions

2002-10-08 Thread Gerald Livingston
OK -- I'm about to start serving mail for my mom and brother from this machine via IMAP. They may be using Outlook Express as their client. I want to do all virus scanning on this side before they read the mail. Maybe some spam filtering too since my brother was careless with his address at some p

Re: How to virus-check cyrus-imap mailboxes

2002-10-08 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 20:59:47 +0200 (CEST) Terje FĂ„berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a nice eMail server here, which servers mail to > about ten users using cyrus-imapd. Amavis is scanning > all incoming and outgoing mail for over about a year > now. > > I've been quite happy

Re: procmail "safety net"

2002-10-07 Thread Gerald Livingston
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:11:18 +0930 Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 0, Gerald Livingston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK -- I got courier IMAP up and running. Now, I'd like procmail to > > sort and deliver to the maildir foldres I've got created. R

procmail "safety net"

2002-10-07 Thread Gerald Livingston
OK -- I got courier IMAP up and running. Now, I'd like procmail to sort and deliver to the maildir foldres I've got created. Right now I pick up with fetchmail and it drops everything in /var/mail/username plain old mbox style. I want procmail to do the same thing at first so I can add recipes one

Re: dhcp and dnat

2002-10-07 Thread Gerald Livingston
Oops -- sent this directly to Stephen. Forwarding to list. Sorry Stephen. G Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:25:45 -0500 From: Gerald Livingston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: dhcp and dnat On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 18:20:06 -0400

smail

1997-11-19 Thread Gerald Livingston
OK -- I'm ready to properly configure smail on my single user dynamic ip system. Who knows where the best FAQ for that is? Big thing is, I need to manage mail accounts from several different addresses. ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I'll probably use procmail to