Re: The real Debian.org

On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:43:56 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: >Thanks Dave, I needed a laugh to brighten up an otherwise uneventful day. >And I thought all you had to do was mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with some technical details, I think I forgot to include the grovelling >my email.. oops. Sorry Bruce, K

Re: IMPORTANT Correction: The real Debian.org

der. > >Please notice that Dave Cinege is NOT a debian developer. See what I mean Convenently left out is I would be maintaining packages, as well writing a new system package, if I was allowed to. I was also going to open a crypto mirror, but Bruce made it clear it to would not be recog

Re: The real Debian.org

On Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:25:56 -1000 (HST), Jimen Ching wrote: >First off, I am not a developer of Debian packages and thus do not know >how Bruce Perens manages the distribution. But basically I have two >comments. > >1. To DC, your first mistake was to post your request to all of the >debian li

The real Debian.org

Take heed people. This is what happens if you dare challenge the leadership of the Debian project. Personal attacks, compliants to your service provider, banishment from the project. They will gang-up on you and drive you away. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. If you are new to De

Re: * Formal call for the removal of Bruce Perens *

On Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:57:18 -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: >Because you didn't contribute anything accept noise and dissent. I've >yet to see Bruce refuse to allow someone to work on Debian, who actually >had something to contribute. >From Ian to me, and Bruces interjection 2 days ago: -

Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

I build with all quantums now. They run good, fast and usually seems to be a good deal cooler then a seagate counter part. The main deciding factor is they have quick warranty turn. Seagates policy is CRAP! In the last 9 months I've used about 30 SCSI and IDE Fireballs, and half dozen 4gb atla

Re: mysql deb package

On Fri, 10 Oct 1997 15:56:06 -0500 (CDT), Timothy Phan wrote: >Hi, > > Would someone build the debian package for MySQL and other MySQL related > such as mySQL-perl, mySQL-tcl, mySQL-JDBC, mySQL-ODBC on 1.3? I've > downloaded the one in hamm/ and it requires libc6 which my > debian box is not

1.2.4-ssl Re: Apache-ssl

On 06 Oct 1997 11:03:47 +0200, Christoph Martin wrote: > >It is a remainder. It will be removed soon. > >Look in unstable for an binary package. Any idea when 1.2.4-ssl will be available? - http://www.psychosis.com/emc/

Re: debian version 1.3.1 ?

On Wed, 8 Oct 1997 22:06:25 -0400 (EDT), Bob wrote: >I recently add X to my debian box. My debian version still shows 1.3 > >Shouldn't this now read 1.3.1?? It should actualy read somewhere around 1.3.5, but some people in the project have found it to be more important to have a static rev numbe

Samba security hole....

A few weeks ago I remebmer seeing that big hole was found in samba. As of what debian package version has this been fixed? - http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/

Re: How to multitask in X-windows?

On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:04:53 -0400, Jason Costomiris wrote: >On Tue, Sep 30, 1997 at 07:36:02PM -0400, ImmortaL wrote: >: I need to know if there a way in x-windows for example in the shell itself >: i would press the alt key and the F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 to open a new window is >: there a way to do t

Re: Graphical User Interface

On Fri, 26 Sep 1997 08:59:04 -0500, Tony Koehn wrote: >I have never seen linux operate on any kind of graphical interface like >Windows 95. > >What GUI do most people use? >How easy is it to install? >Someone told me of a web site that had different GUI stuff for linux but I >lost it. Anyone h

Re: serial port speed

On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 12:21:15 +0100 (BST), David Wright wrote: >On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: > >> On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:23:03 +1000, Lawrence wrote: >> >> >Anyone knows the default serail port speed? It is 38,400bps? Which >> >file responsible f

RE: Multiple network cards. ARGH! Double ARGH! ;-)

On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 11:06:17 +, Paulo Almeida wrote: >Hi Mike! > >I have faced the same problem but with 3Com cards. There is only one >solution for this problem: use 2 different network cards. There is >somekind of bug in debian, I think, because it just doesn't support 2 or >more same networ

Re: Multiple ethernets

On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 18:48:48 -0600, Mike Patterson wrote: > >I added the line: >append = "ether=0,320,eth1" Try telling it the IRQ. Maybe they are too 'close'. Move it to a higher IO port. - http://www.psychosis.com/emc/

Re: serial port speed

On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:23:03 +1000, Lawrence wrote: >Anyone knows the default serail port speed? It is 38,400bps? Which >file responsible for this setting? I want to increase it to 115,200bps. 38.4K, yes, /etc/rc.boot/0setserial, use the spd_vhi option.

Linux Termservers was:Re: How many modems ?

On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:44:49 -0400, Jason Costomiris wrote: >On Tue, Sep 23, 1997 at 07:41:52AM -0500, Dave Cinege wrote: >: >[1] A studly enough box to support 48 modems. >: >: Depends on dump or smart serial board. Smart, 486 66 should be comfortable, >: dumb, pentium class

Re: Backup with DAT SCSI tapes

On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 20:27:51 -0700 (PDT), Oz Dror wrote: >Hi, > >I am having problems using taper as the backup program for my DAT SCSI tape. >It seems that taper cannot handle the large amount of data. >it generates very large info files and then crushes. Incremental backup >is also not working

Re: How many modems ?

On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:49:22 -0400, Jason Costomiris wrote: >On Mon, Sep 22, 1997 at 03:05:35AM -0500, Dave Cinege wrote: >: >Do yourself a favor, if you want a terminal server, buy a terminal server. >: > >: >If you need a good number of modems, pick up a used Livingston PM2

Re: How many modems ?

On Sat, 20 Sep 1997 19:30:27 -0400, Jason Costomiris wrote: >On Fri, Sep 19, 1997 at 02:09:29AM +0200, dada wrote: >: How many modems can attach to my computer controlled by linux? > >I don't know about a theoretical maximum, however, I've seen people >comfortably use 16 or 32, using multiport se

Re: debian-disent

On Sun, 21 Sep 1997 18:45:44 +0200, Martin Str|mberg wrote: >I remember a message saying that a new list debian-disent had been >formed. Is that list archived somewhere, like the other debian lists >at ? http://www.psychosis.com/listarch/debian-dissent

Re: Incoming PPP question - subnetting

On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:36:01 -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: >Kevin Traas wrote: >> >> >Hmmm. What's the netmask on the ethernet interface? If it's set to >> >255.255.255.224 then everything should work fine even though >> >> Yes, it is. > >Then NT's routing algorithm is wrong or there are othe

Re: cdda2wav - cannot that deice sgb

On Tue, 16 Sep 1997 21:50:21 +, Michael Legart wrote: >Hi! > >> Because it can't. : > > >hahahahhah > >> Are you using it with ide or scsi cdrom? > >ide ... I now have tryed "-D /dev/hdd" and that works ... well >allmost! I get some errors when it running, but maybe thats because I >ha

Re: cdda2wav - cannot that deice sgb

On Mon, 15 Sep 1997 20:08:38 +, Michael Legart wrote: >Hi! > >I have a little problem getting "cdda2wav" to work... when i start >the program, i'm just told that it "cannot stat device sgb" ... Because it can't. : > Are you using it with ide or scsi cdrom? -

Linux Router Project - Initial beta release now available.

After much work I have just made the first beta available. It is dubbed a developers release, but it is very much a usable product for anyone that needs to build a router/terminal server now. (I'm using it in my equivalent to a Portmaster 2e) What has been made is a networking capable minimal ro

Re: www.linuxhq.com

On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 20:31:49 +, Adrian Bridgett wrote: >On Sep 08, Nils Rennebarth wrote >> On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: >> >does anyone know what's happened to www.linuxhq.com? >> It appears to have moved to www.ecsnet.com, at least this is what altavista >> says. It's ping'able bu

Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

On 09 Sep 1997 15:07:41 -0700, Terrence Brannon wrote: >The following message is a courtesy copy of an article >that has been posted as well. > > >We would like a SCSI 4GB hard disk to connect to our PC running Debian >Linux 1.3. We may occassionally want to connect it to our Alpha's running >Redh

Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

On Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:41:28 -0400 (EDT), Tommy Lakofski wrote: >Unfortunately, my experience is somewhat different -- I've had a Quantum >Grand Prix 4.3GB die on me (dead spindle) after 10 months (and my office The Grand Prix was a well know peice of shit, and is no longer made. They replaced it

Re: WantWEB/Linux/IP Masquerading

On Fri, 05 Sep 1997 16:25:03 -0800, Adam Shand wrote: >>I'd stay away from sat until LEO stuff starts to come out.the latency is >>500ms+ jumping out 33,000 miles. > >Yep... but from what I understand this is minimised by the two way >connection. Commands (eg. FTP/HTTP 'get' commands) are se

Re: How to duplicate BOOT disk?

On Fri, 5 Sep 1997 05:33:42 +0200 (CEST), Remco Blaakmeer wrote: >On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, Jimmy Lu wrote: > >> I use BOOT disk to boot up my system. Now I want to >> duplicate the BOOT disk as a backup but I am having >> problem. I tried to mount BOOT disk in fd0 but it won't >> mount. I use: moun

Re: WantWEB/Linux/IP Masquerading

On Fri, 05 Sep 1997 14:49:37 -0800, Adam Shand wrote: >>I've been told that by using the miracles of IP masquerading, I can do this >>by purchasing a single connection for the server, and letting the remainder >>od the machines "leach" off it in some way. > >Yep this is very possible and not all

Re: Who knows stuff about WAN cards?

On Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:13:30 -0400 (EDT), Pete Templin wrote: > >Hi there!! > >I'm doing some network consulting for a computer store, and we'd like to >connect the store LAN to the Internet through a 56k or T1 connection. If >possible, we'd like to save the expense of the router and perhaps the >

Re: Radius

On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 17:15:20 -0500, Tony Koehn wrote: >Merit Radius 2.4.23C Hmm then I can't help much since I never used that one. What are you're logs showning? Anything? - http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ Elite Mi

Re: Radius

On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 15:21:26 -0500, Tony Koehn wrote: >My TS is a Computone Powerack OK, but what version of a SERVER are you trying to setting up on your linux box? The 3 I know of for Linux (2 debian are paks) are livingston, merit, and cistron. --

Re: SCSI Host Adapter

On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:27:41 -0700 (PDT), Steve Witt wrote: >I'm hoping that someone with some SCSI experience can give me some >advice here. Look no further...you may accept my recommandation as the word of god. Buy a DPT. If a DPT is too expensive, buy a Buslogic. End of choices. (Don't buy ada

Re: Radius

On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:09:00 -0500, Tony Koehn wrote: >I am looking for someone who can tell me how I go about setting up radiusd. > I need to see how I get it to get its info from another server?? Which one? Linvingston, Merit, or Cistron? The Cistronis not yet an 'officailly' available deb pack

Re: Building Debian Packages

On Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:49:36 -0400 (EDT), Alex Yukhimets wrote: >> >George> I am getting a bit frustrated here in locating the >> >George> documentation that I need to learn to build debian packages. >> > >> >Umm, would debian-devel be a better place for this topic? >> >> Umm isn't that a priv

Re: Building Debian Packages

On 02 Sep 1997 03:21:39 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >Hi, >>>"George" == George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >George> I am getting a bit frustrated here in locating the >George> documentation that I need to learn to build debian packages. > > Umm, would debian-devel be a better pla

Re: ppp connection

On Mon, 1 Sep 1997 12:22:59 -0400 (EDT), Paul Miller wrote: >I have a cable modem that goes down once and awhile and I want to be able >to dialup when it is down. I have a ppp-on script setup and I can connect >(ppp0 is listing when I type ifconfig).. unfortchantly I can't do >anything through th

Re: Which PGP should I get?

On Sat, 30 Aug 1997 12:46:50 -0400, Gonzalo A. Diethelm wrote: > >Should I get pgp-us or pgp-i? I'm living in Chile, if that makes any >difference. Which ever one your government says you can't use. - http://www.psychosis.com/

Re: Qpopper ?

On Sat, 30 Aug 1997 21:29:24 +, Michael Legart wrote: >> Hmm this should not be. Do a 'ps aux' do you see /usr/sbin/inetd running? >> Can you telnet in? Can you ftp to yourself? (myhost$ ftp myhost) > >Yep ... inetd *is* runnning, *and* ftpd *is* configurared, but it >still won't work. Is ft

Re: 3C509B ISA Detection

On Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:29:53 -0700 (MST), Darin D. wrote: >> >> Here, no problems with a 3C509B. I disabled pnp and set the irq to 5 >> (for arbitrary reasons.) >> What do you get from `cat /proc/{interrupts,io}` ? > >I have tried different irq's and addresses and all of them have been clear >of

Re: Qpopper ?

On Sat, 30 Aug 1997 14:08:37 +, Michael Legart wrote: >Hi ! > >Just wondering if I can use the qpopper package, that comes with >Debian 1.3, to make a pop3 mail server ? If so ... how do I configure >it ? I have it installed, but I can't seem to find out how to create >accounts etc. adduse

Current qpopper compatible with qmail? (~/Mailbox)

I'm moving to qmail from smail. I can't get qpopper working. What I can find in the qmail docs says qpopper 2.2 needs a recompile to work with ~/Mailbox. Is the current version compatible in anyway, or do I need to grab the source? What about cucipop? --

Re: Need pppd/PAP guru!

Also you may need the following in /etc/ppp/options: # force pppd to use your ISP user name as your 'host name' during the # PAP/CHAP authentication process name dcinege.! (with you user name) And if you experence machine gun redialing, comment out: lcp-echo-interval 30 lcp-echo-failure 4 Wit

New mailing list: debian-dissent

A new mailing list has been formed to function as an arena for discussions about changing the current Debian (non technical) structure and function. General discussion topicality about the Debian project is: reorganization restructuring splitting or branching purpose and ethics surrounding such

Re: ide for java?

On Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:28:37 -0700, Jim Pick wrote: > >> hi is there any Java IDE interface to Linux? >> >> warnning: I'm loocking for an IDE diferent as JAVA WORKSHOP. > >You might try Vibe from Visix (www.visix.com). I've never tried it, but >it is available for Linux. > >There is also the

Re: SPI & Debian incorporation

On 22 Aug 1997 12:24:04 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >Hi, >>>"Fire" == Fire Brand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Fire> I have to admit that I like 1.3.1 or 1.3.2 (or even 1.3.2.1) >Fire> better than 1.3.r1-fruit-files_your_mom.another-minor-change. > > The last bit is a wee bit of FUD. >

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On 22 Aug 1997 13:41:07 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > If you do not think that the discussion came to a conclusion > (BTW, Bruce did shift from his original proposal), then the proper > forum is debian-devel. I did not see your s=comments there. Nobody is > squashing dissent. All we are

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Sat, 23 Aug 1997 02:32:30 +0800, Dima wrote: >OK Dave, here's a fresh one for you: remember LiGNUx? Here's what >made him do that: > >> Note that FSF is the same kind of corporation, a non-profit with a 501(c)3. And? -

Re: Dave Cinege and Paul Wade

On Fri, 22 Aug 97 21:49 PDT, Bruce Perens wrote: >I sent this message to Dave Cinege and Paul Wade yesterday. > >> From bruce Fri Aug 22 00:39:12 1997 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: you and debian-user >> Reply-To: Bruce Perens <[EMAIL

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 13:12:48 CDT, Rick Hawkins wrote: > >Dave Cinege wrote, > >> Yes you have. I'm saying the work done be the people outside the US is now >> asscoiated with a US entity. It's not 'theirs' anymore, while it is in the >> US. >

Re: shielding from liability

On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 22:57:29 -0500, Paul Serice wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Paul Serice writes: >> > Suppose, Bruce is "going to drive tomorrow to Santa Cruz (from >> > Berkeley) to participate in a meeting for Debian," and on the way >> > he causes an accident. Before incorporation, n

Re: Debian only like larger businesses

On 22 Aug 1997 12:03:43 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >Hi, > > For the record: The official CD is not an independent action > on part of Bruce Perenes, all the developers (which is another way of > saying Debian) decided that it was a Good Thing. I am getting tired > of people singling out

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 15:34:41 +0200 (MET DST), E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) wrote: >> >> This is why there have ben how many changes to 1.3.1, and it's still called 1.3.1? > >That is an error you can criticize. It was not done on purpose, and >therefore you cannot claim it is a severe flaw in the policy.

Re: Debian only like larger businesses

On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 08:48:30 -0700 (PDT), George Bonser wrote: >> Sorry, Bruce, but this is baloney! I have private email from you on both >> occasions when the archive changed without a release number change. The >> first time you said it was bad release engineering and would look into it. >> The

Re: shielding from liability

On Fri, 22 Aug 97 20:48 PDT, Bruce Perens wrote: >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> It may not. An employee is working under the supervision of the >> corporation: he's "just following orders". The corporation is presumed to >> be checking his work, so if his screwups get out it is held liable. Can you

Re: Debian only like larger businesses

On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:15:00 +0200, Joost Kooij wrote: > >I find it very hard to believe that Bruce is acting on himself. I firmly >believe that his decisions are based upon serious discussions between >many No developer has yet to post that the new 'policy' of backlogging rev numbers was dis

My final words on Debian Inc.

On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 12:21:26 -0500, Paul Serice wrote: >> Yes you have. I'm saying the work done be the people outside the US >> is now asscoiated with a US entity. It's not 'theirs' anymore, >> while it is in the US. > >O.k., I think I see where you're coming from. That's just not the >way it wo

Re: shielding from liability

On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:15:52 -0500, Paul Serice wrote: >Suppose, Bruce is "going to drive tomorrow to Santa Cruz (from >Berkeley) to participate in a meeting for Debian," and on the way he >causes an accident. Before incorporation, no one knew how far the >liability tail extended. (For example,

Re: Release naming ...

On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 20:42:21 -0400 (EDT), Richard G. Roberto wrote: >A while ago I posted my feelings on this to Debian private, >but it was _very_ ill received at the time. I'll restate it >now. Commercial products do not rename their OS every time >there's a bug fix! Then it's settled! Debi

Re: Prompt in Bash

On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 12:32:35 -0300 (EST), Daniel Doro Ferrante wrote: > > > Hi All ! > > Does anybody know how do I change colors in a bash prompt. I can >do it in tcsh, but no succes with bash... (even after reading the man). #b/w prompt #PS1="\\h\\$ \\u [\\w] " #Pretty color promp

Re: Expelling David Cinege from the list

On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 15:19:59 -0800 (AKDT), Britton wrote: >> to *purchase* software. Do you *really* want an operating system developed >> by >> people like *this* to control your mission-critical computing needs, Mr. >> Computer User?" > >My guess is Englesh (heh) is this guys second language.

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On 21 Aug 1997 23:28:31 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >George Bonser writes: >> I think the idea is, you buy the 1.3 CDROM and pick up the revisions from >> the net. >> ... >> In this way, if a distribution goes defunct and is replaced, only the >> X.x-updates directory needs to be left around f

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:13:22 +0200 (MET DST), E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) wrote: >Dave Cinege: >> A donation to 'debian' meant supporting the deveopers directly in some way, >> offering bandwidth, and contributing to the project. There were no direct >> bills to pay.

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:14:05 -0700 (PDT), George Bonser wrote: >On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Mike Schmitz wrote: > >> myself in alignment with David Cinege and Paul Wade. I do not think that >> _any_ decision should be made on business, marketing, or political reasons, >> Whatever the cost, ONLY quality

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 21:52:43 +0200, Ciccio wrote: >> If the orginization were not invloded in promotions, and makings CD-Rom, >> they >> could get back to simply working towards the orginazation of a quality >> product. >> Thats their purpose as far as I'm concerned, not worring about if CD ma

Re: writing off the value of services donated

On Thu, 21 Aug 97 13:28 PDT, Bruce Perens wrote: >Dave Cinege: >> Do you think the IRS will allow companies to write off the ftp bandwidth >> they donate? > >Yes, you can deduct the value of services donated to a 501(c)3 >non-profit from your income for tax purposes. Not

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:30:52 -0500, Paul Serice wrote: >> >The government has always been involved. In general though, it is >> >> With the developers and servers in Germany? nl? > >The presence of developers and servers in Germany does not limit the >ability of the American legal system to reach

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On 21 Aug 1997 16:08:05 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > There are no fewer release. All releases are numbered (with > revisions, not point versions). Technically, the two schemes are the > same. Mr Cinege has escalated a percived, non-technical difference > into a jihad. No I'm talking ab

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:12:59 -0400 (EDT), Dale Scheetz wrote: >On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: > >> It's not about .1 R1, or Asub1, to the 2nd power of 4. >> It's about something that is frozen, actully staying frozen. >> If the disc says 1.3.1, I shou

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:52:36 -0500, Paul Serice wrote: >> The purpose behind the official incorporation for Debian is still >> beyand me, and the more I think about it I don't like it. The >> project (like linux) has always been for freeholders all over the >> world. Why the US government sudden

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:44:11 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Aug 21, Dave Cinege wrote >>On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:23:27 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>On Aug 21, Dave Cinege wrote >>>>I don't see the need. >>>Well, many others did. And many

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 20:05:09 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: >> >On top of that, not everyone can donate time or resourses, but they can >> >contribute money. >> >> To who? Am I a part of Debian.org? Do I have a vote.even if I maintain >> 50 >> packages?? > >Do you maintain even one? N

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On 21 Aug 1997 13:23:32 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >Hi, >>>"Dave" == Dave Cinege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Dave> On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:28:10 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: > > >Dave> I think Debian was doing just fine before it started to

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:20:36 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote: >On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: > >> If the orginization were not invloded in promotions, and makings CD-Rom, >> they >> could get back to simply working towards the orginazation of a quality >

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:11:16 -0400, Marc W. Brooks wrote: >Okay, I'm not sure where we disagree then. You admit that "In most cases it >won't even be feasible", but this also means that in some cases, it would >be feasible. Could be...could. >Why not give that option to people? Just wondering.

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:23:27 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Aug 21, Dave Cinege wrote >> On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:41 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: >> >One of the reasons is that when people make a donation, it could be >> >tax deductable. Right now it is not. We

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:19:55 -0400, Marc W. Brooks wrote: >At 02:00 PM 8/21/97 -0400, Dave Cinege wrote: >>On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:41 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: >> >>> >>>One of the reasons is that when people make a donation, it could be >>>tax d

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:34:29 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: >In your email to me, Dave Cinege, you wrote: >> >> On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:42:02 -0400, Behan Webster wrote: >> >Personally I think you're blowing things way out of proportion simply >> >because yo

Re: incorporation

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:09:25 CDT, Rick Hawkins wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:28:10 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: > >> The purpose behind the official incorporation for Debian is still beyand >> me, >> and the more I think about it I don't like it. The project (like linux) >> has > always

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:42:02 -0400, Behan Webster wrote: >Dave Cinege wrote: >> >> On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:28:10 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: >> >> >my company uses Debian very seriously so I think is very fair to help the >> >project with donations. I ha

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:41 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: > >One of the reasons is that when people make a donation, it could be >tax deductable. Right now it is not. We have to get 501(c)3 status >with the US IRS first. Why? Of what intestest is that to the people that don't live in the USA. H

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:57:33 +0200, Ciccio wrote: >> On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 07:51:09 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I think Debian was doing just fine before it started to receive cash donations. What expenses > >What's going wrong now? > >I'm using debian quite heavily, and nobod

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 07:51:09 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: >> >> I think Debian was doing just fine before it started to receive cash >> donations. What expenses does >> it have? Can you make your books public Bruce? > >Check the donations page. It will show what has been collected. The only

Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:28:10 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: >my company uses Debian very seriously so I think is very fair to help the >project with donations. I have just bought 2 "Official Debian 1.3.1 CD's" >from LSL and I chose the product that includes a 5 dollar donation to the >Debian project.

Re: Debian Version Numbers Was: Is this the Debian Philosophy? (or.... $#@!@#$ bash 2.0!)

On Wed, 20 Aug 97 12:52 PDT, Bruce Perens wrote: >> How about a longer explanation on the list? I'm _SURE_ that _MANY_ >> inquiring minds would like to know. > > >So, we want to make it clear that our CD, even if it is a revision or two >behind, is still _current_ product in that you can easily hi

Re: Debian Version Numbers - My rant on this

On Tue, 19 Aug 1997 17:47:12 -0600 (MDT), Anthony Fok wrote: >On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: > >> On Tue, 19 Aug 97 12:35 PDT, Bruce Perens wrote: >> > >> >> So I am running Debian version 1.3 - and yet the CD says Debian 1.3.1 . >> > >>

Re: Debian Version Numbers - My rant on this

On Tue, 19 Aug 97 12:35 PDT, Bruce Perens wrote: > >> So I am running Debian version 1.3 - and yet the CD says Debian 1.3.1 . > >Oops. My fault. The reason for two numbers is mostly marketing. I know >that marketing is anathema to most of us, but someone's gotta do it and >I'm afraid the task fell

Re: RAID5 controller

On Fri, 8 Aug 1997 07:34:41 -0400 (EDT), Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: > >I've been using the DPT controller with Debian but only for RAID 1. >I've had no trouble except for the e2fsprog bug. The RAID >functionality is implemented in hardware and appears as a normal disk >to Debian. I should also m

Re: RAID5 controller

On Thu, 7 Aug 1997 11:23:13 -0700, Kevin Traas wrote: > >can anyone recommend a couple of tried and true RAID5 controllers >>i could price out? > >I've used the Mylex DAC960 PCI (3 and 5 channel). Very happy with them - >but pricy. However, I've never used these under Linux, only SCO Unix and T

Netscape beta install ate my bookmarks!!

and I was not very fucking happy about it, let me tell you. Lucky I was able to recover 99% of them with lde and dd. I'm not sure if it was the wrapper itself or netscape. I saw the install say: Found /root/.netscape/booksmarks.html But I have no idea what it did once it found them. Yes I sh

Netscape beta install package gone... Re: Comunicator 4.02b7 is out

On Sun, 3 Aug 1997 08:58:29 -0400 (EDT), Randy Edwards wrote: >On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: > >> Strange, when I look all I see is an empty directory at >> ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.02/4.02b7/english/unix > > It's only on some ftp servers. I found it on ftp25; oth

Re: Help with Debian and ISDN

On Sun, 3 Aug 1997 09:40:35 +0700 (GMT-7), Udjat -A MiB wrote: >Also I cant seem to get LCP EchoReq to work. I have turned that feature in >pppd off. (in /etc/ppp/options) On the same note I also cant seen to get >LCP ConfReq working for bsd_comp.o eather. I had this same problem with both a Zyx

Re: Help with Debian and ISDN

On Sun, 3 Aug 1997 12:27:45 +0700 (GMT-7), Udjat -A MiB wrote: >On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: > >> I had this same problem with both a Zyxel Omni TA, and Elite 2864i. Drove me >> and my ISP crazy for a few days. My machine gun redialing manged to bring >> down

Re: splitting up the debian-user mailing list

On Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:33:57 +0200 (METDST), Christian Lynbech wrote: Bruce, I don't think it's going to make much difference. I'll wind-up subscribing to all the lists, and between the cc: ing between them I'll receive lots more dups...it will just be more of a bother to maintain...maybe so muc

Re: Debian-lite

On Mon, 04 Aug 1997 11:02:55 +0200, Pierre Blanchet wrote: How about they just get the damn base disks and then install from FTP?!?!?! (Sorry, if you can't get to the net you don't count) >"AC" == Alec Clews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> That's why the name Debian-lite makes me sick. It

Re: Netscape beta install package gone... Re: Comunicator 4.02b7 is out

On Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:30:19 -0600 (MDT), Anthony Fok wrote: >On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: > >> >> Strange, when I look all I see is an empty directory at >> >> ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.02/4.02b7/english/unix >> > >> >

Re: libc5 and libc6

On Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:17:08 -0400, Paul Miller wrote: >How can I install *BOTH* libc5 and libc6?? Can't we all just get along? dpkg -i libc6 ; > They coexsist fine, and I'm happy to say I'm now running apache 1.2.0 (a libc6 compile) -

Questions about moving to libc6 (and apache)

I found the Apache 1.2 package in experimental, and now I know whyit requires libc6. What are the repercussion's if I install this on my 1.3.1 system? Can I just install libc6 and what uses libc6 with be happy, or will I need to remove libc5 and then have to worry about compatibility problems

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