Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 01:58:27PM -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: [...] > It is not that SSH is less secure, it is that crackers attempt to brute > force SSH servers [...] You still use passwords? Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-25 Thread J
There were also some minor problems which I solved with *apt update/upgrade* > while being in *chroot*. > In particular, there was for some reason no internet connection after I booted to the restored system. Something wrong was with firmware and/or initramfs i guess.

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 05:21:53AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 25/3/25 23:22, Jan Claeys wrote: > > On Mon, 2025-03-24 at 12:39 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > I should mention that having an internet facing ssh service is > > > usually a very bad idea. The 'better' approach is to have on

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/03/2025 19:47, J wrote: Notice that the page suggests "# for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc " so it is assumed that users should run $ sudo -i sudo *SH -c '...' -* as mentioned above. But it is not written in WIki. In my opinion, "sudo -i" might be added to the wiki articles. I wo

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 09:25:01AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 25/03/2025 19:47, J wrote: > > Notice that the page suggests "# for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc " > > so it is assumed that users should run > > > > $ sudo -i > > > > sudo *SH -c '...' -* as mentioned above. But it is not

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 09:23:58AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 26/3/25 06:48, Jan Claeys wrote: > > FWIW: at that rate it takes millions of years to guess an even halfway > > semi-secure 8-character password, let alone the really secure longer > > one you_should_ be using. > > It's not the

Re: Frequent freezing around login screens

2025-03-25 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
ср, 26 мар. 2025 г. в 07:09, W. Pepperdine : > > Debian+XFCE freezes randomly either just before, during, or a couple seconds > after the login screen. It happens about a third the time, both on booting > and on changing users. During a freeze, the screen displays but is not > updated and the US

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread David Wright
On Tue 25 Mar 2025 at 11:38:25 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 08:55:44AM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 09:49:37 +0100 wrote: > > > > >since there is no "standard" way to express a "multiple" or > > >"discontinuous" selection in the underlying window

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread David Wright
On Mon 24 Mar 2025 at 23:19:32 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 23:00:54 -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > Hi, mick.. I was able to do what you're asking by using the CTRL key. I > > clicked CTRL then dragged the cursor to select 3 or 4 words as a > > phrase. I was able to t

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread David Wright
On Mon 24 Mar 2025 at 21:14:47 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 23:00:54 -0400 > Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > > That worked, but it's hinky sometimes on webpages that are already > > hard to copy a single block of text on. On those pages, I don't know > > what the misfire is, b

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/03/2025 00:10, Greg wrote: On 2025-03-25, Max Nikulin wrote: I was able to do what you're asking by using the CTRL key. [...] If that doesn't work at all on any given webpage, it will likely have something to do with how the webmaster coded the page. It is broken in the following cases

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/03/2025 01:41, mick.crane wrote: I generally use Geany or Nano for typing and although of not major importance I earlier wanted to move bits of text around and thought being able to make random selections, as one thing, would be handy. Read manuals, perhaps that editors have some close f

Re: laptop options

2025-03-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 24/03/2025 15:23, Ralph Aichinger wrote: Product Name: HP ZBook Fury 16 G10 Mobile Workstation PC [...] Support is so good, that when I go into "Software" in the Gnome applications menu, It will show me if a new firmware for the Thunderbolt dock is available, and suggest to install i

Frequent freezing around login screens

2025-03-25 Thread W. Pepperdine
Debian+XFCE freezes randomly either just before, during, or a couple seconds after the login screen. It happens about a third the time, both on booting and on changing users. During a freeze, the screen displays but is not updated and the USB ports appear inactive. There is no mouse or keyboard

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread jeremy ardley
On 26/3/25 06:48, Jan Claeys wrote: FWIW: at that rate it takes millions of years to guess an even halfway semi-secure 8-character password, let alone the really secure longer one you_should_ be using. It's not the random password guess that's a problem. It's the passwords that have been com

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread jeremy ardley
On 25/3/25 23:22, Jan Claeys wrote: On Mon, 2025-03-24 at 12:39 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: I should mention that having an internet facing ssh service is usually a very bad idea. The 'better' approach is to have only a VPN exposed and use heavy security on that. Once the VPN link is establish

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 4:46 PM wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 01:58:27PM -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > [...] > > > It is not that SSH is less secure, it is that crackers attempt to brute > > force SSH servers [...] > > You still use passwords? ++. $ cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/10-p

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 1:34 PM Jan Claeys wrote: > On Tue, 2025-03-25 at 17:12 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > Jan Claeys (HE12025-03-25): > > > > I should mention that having an internet facing ssh service is > > > > usually a very bad idea. The 'better' approach is to have only a > > > > VPN

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 07:07:16 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: Hello Greg, >Only in Microsoft Windows, or in GUI applications that try to emulate >Windows behavior. And even then, the selection you're making isn't I've never used windows for 'standard' domestic computing activities, only at work for

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread Nicolas George
Jan Claeys (HE12025-03-25): > Jeremy insinuated that, not me, by saying that having SSH listening > publicly is a bad idea, and that “a VPN” listening publicly is somehow > safer. First of all, I want to say that I hope this will not turn into one of those discussion where you try to gotcha everyb

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread jeremy ardley
On 26/3/25 04:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: It is not that SSH is less secure, it is that crackers attempt to brute force SSH servers [...] You still use passwords? Out of the box debian has passwords enabled and certificates allowed but not mandatory. I can guarantee at least 90% of all de

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread jeremy ardley
On 26/3/25 03:45, Nicolas George wrote: Let us not exaggerate please. A ssh server publicly available on its usual port is annoying with the logging noise, but unless you are very constrained in terms of CPU or bandwidth it is not a danger. The general principal is to not expose any system/se

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 05:10:40PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-25, Max Nikulin wrote: > >> I was able to do what you're asking by using the CTRL key. > > [...] > >> If that doesn't work at all on any given webpage, it will likely have > >> something to do with how the webmaster coded the page.

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread Karl Vogel
>> On Tue 25 Mar 2025 at 07:55:28 (-0400), Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 11:38:25 +0100 > wrote: >> Try with xterm. Try with LO writer. They drop the selection > > Fair enough. I rarely use either xterm or LO writer. Will give it a > try. When I started using xterm, I couldn't copy

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread Nicolas George
Timothy M Butterworth (HE12025-03-25): > It is not that SSH is less secure, it is that crackers attempt to brute > force SSH servers. If you really want to have SSH open to the internet you > may want to hide it behind port knocking. Let us not exaggerate please. A ssh server publicly available on

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-03-25 18:49, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 18:41:29 +, mick.crane wrote: I don't know why I don't seem to be able to replicate what people say they can do with my basic bookworm install, xfce4 and Vivaldi browser. Because Vivaldi is Chromium-based, not Gecko-based.

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 18:41:29 +, mick.crane wrote: > I don't know why I don't seem to be able to replicate what people say they > can do with my basic bookworm install, xfce4 and Vivaldi browser. Because Vivaldi is Chromium-based, not Gecko-based. Multiple selection ONLY works in Firefox a

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-03-25 17:10, Greg wrote: On 2025-03-25, Max Nikulin wrote: I was able to do what you're asking by using the CTRL key. [...] If that doesn't work at all on any given webpage, it will likely have something to do with how the webmaster coded the page. It is broken in the following case

Re: Instalación

2025-03-25 Thread Dave Howorth
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 17:17:24 - (UTC) Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-23, Julio Gil Garcia wrote: > > > > Thanks Andrew, also for your translation effort. > > Hoy en día, realmente no supone ningún esfuerzo. > Que?

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread Jan Claeys
On Tue, 2025-03-25 at 17:12 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Jan Claeys (HE12025-03-25): > > > I should mention that having an internet facing ssh service is > > > usually a very bad idea. The 'better' approach is to have only a > > > VPN exposed and use heavy security on that. Once the VPN link is >

Re: Instalación

2025-03-25 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-23, Julio Gil Garcia wrote: > > Thanks Andrew, also for your translation effort. Hoy en día, realmente no supone ningún esfuerzo.

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-25, Max Nikulin wrote: >> I was able to do what you're asking by using the CTRL key. > [...] >> If that doesn't work at all on any given webpage, it will likely have >> something to do with how the webmaster coded the page. > > It is broken in the following cases: > - Tables are used fo

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/03/2025 10:00, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: On Tue, 2025-03-25 at 02:25 +, mick.crane wrote: eg. alpha beta charlie delta select only "alpha" and "charlie" text with mouse drag and copy. I was able to do what you're asking by using the CTRL key. [...] If that doesn't work at all on any

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread Nicolas George
Jan Claeys (HE12025-03-25): > > I should mention that having an internet facing ssh service is > > usually a very bad idea. The 'better' approach is to have only a VPN > > exposed and use heavy security on that. Once the VPN link is > > established you can ssh through the VPN to internal systems. >

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 04:22:10PM +0100, Jan Claeys wrote: > On Mon, 2025-03-24 at 12:39 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > I should mention that having an internet facing ssh service is > > usually a very bad idea. The 'better' approach is to have only a VPN > > exposed and use heavy security on tha

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread Jan Claeys
On Mon, 2025-03-24 at 12:39 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > I should mention that having an internet facing ssh service is > usually a very bad idea. The 'better' approach is to have only a VPN > exposed and use heavy security on that. Once the VPN link is > established you can ssh through the VPN to

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 07:07:16AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 08:55:44 +, Brad Rogers wrote: > > Use of for discontinuous selection seems pretty much ubiquitous. > > is usually associated with continuous selection. > > Only in Microsoft Windows, or in GUI applicati

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-25, Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 23:00:54 -0400 > Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > >> That worked, but it's hinky sometimes on webpages that are already >> hard to copy a single block of text on. On those pages, I don't know >> what the misfire is, but selecting text insists on

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-25 Thread J
> > Notice that the page suggests "# for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc " > so it is assumed that users should run > > $ sudo -i > sudo *SH -c '...' - *as mentioned above. But it is not written in WIki. I am thinking about if i should propose the Wiki update. > The error suggests that you forgot to m

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/03/2025 02:40, J wrote: user@debian:~$ sudo for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /sys/firmware/efi/ efivars /run; do mount -B $i /mnt/$i; done Notice that the page suggests "# for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc " so it is assumed that users should run $ sudo -i # # more commands given above... #

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 11:38:25 +0100 wrote: Hello to...@tuxteam.de, >Try with xterm. Try with LO writer. They drop the selection Fair enough. I rarely use either xterm or LO writer. Will give it a try. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The bl

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 08:55:44 +, Brad Rogers wrote: > Use of for discontinuous selection seems pretty much ubiquitous. > is usually associated with continuous selection. Only in Microsoft Windows, or in GUI applications that try to emulate Windows behavior. And even then, the selection y

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 08:55:44AM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 09:49:37 +0100 > wrote: > > Hello to...@tuxteam.de, > > >since there is no "standard" way to express a "multiple" or > >"discontinuous" selection in the underlying windows system (it's > > Use of for discontinuo

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 08:11:14AM +, mick.crane wrote: > On 2025-03-25 03:00, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > On Tue, 2025-03-25 at 02:25 +, mick.crane wrote: > > > xfce4 > > > In things that display text you can drag the mouse over to select > > > blocks > > > of text. > > > Is there some way

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-03-25 03:00, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: On Tue, 2025-03-25 at 02:25 +, mick.crane wrote: xfce4 In things that display text you can drag the mouse over to select blocks of text. Is there some way by a combination of key presses/drag mouse to select separated sections of text? eg. alpha b

Re: valgrind (ioctl 0x5395 - CDROM_LAST_WRITTEN)

2025-03-25 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Tim Woodall wrote: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/include/uapi/linux/cdrom.h [...] ==4710== Warning: noted but unhandled ioctl 0x5395 with no size/direction hints. ioctl CDROM_LAST_WRITTEN is something which software would call to