Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-04 Thread Loris Bennett
"Russell L. Harris" writes: > On my Debian 12 desktop, I installed Evolution, primarily for easy > access to HTML messages. Also, it gives me a second mail address. How does Evolution give you a second email address? > Several days ago, Evolution began causing a "Mail Authentication > Request"

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Xiyue Deng
Sarbjit Singh Sandhu writes: > [...] > > A yearly stable release would allow schools to benefit from the latest > software and security updates without the long wait between releases. This > would also make it easier for schools to plan their IT infrastructure and > ensure that students have acce

Re: no graphics with Lenovo Thinkcentre M700

2025-03-04 Thread Felix Miata
Titus Newswanger composed on 2025-03-04 21:51 (UTC-0600): > I have several of these Lenovo Thinkcentre M700 mini-pc around, been > running Debian 12 on them just fine. A couple days ago I grabbed another > one off the shelf and it still had Windows 11, that was working. Argued > with it a bit t

Re: Help: second monitor not dectected

2025-03-04 Thread Brieuc Desoutter
hum it is strange… I previously installed bookworm on the same laptop a while ago (12.3 if I remember correctly) and it did work (both minitors) until I installed proprietary nvidia drivers and the computer froze (or just got black screens) when returning from suspend and I got tired of it… Anyway

no graphics with Lenovo Thinkcentre M700

2025-03-04 Thread Titus Newswanger
On 3/4/25 21:51, Titus Newswanger wrote: I finally got graphics with a live boot Ubuntu 13.10 but only in safe graphics mode. Ubuntu reported running x11 and for graphics it says 'software rendering' inxi wasn't installed; I tried installing but it failed. So much for ubuntu. correction: li

no graphics with Lenovo Thinkcentre M700

2025-03-04 Thread Titus Newswanger
I have several of these Lenovo Thinkcentre M700 mini-pc around, been running Debian 12 on them just fine. A couple days ago I grabbed another one off the shelf and it still had Windows 11, that was working. Argued with it a bit till I remembered 'enter' key gets me into bios to disable secure b

Re: filesystem damage

2025-03-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/03/2025 00:03, Charles Curley wrote: On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 10:49:41 -0500 Eben King wrote: So what can I do to fix this, while still keeping my history, cookies, tabs, etc? I smell a rat. I wonder if the corruption is because your hard drive is failing. I would first boot to a live CD and r

Re: filesystem damage

2025-03-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/03/2025 17:03, Dan Purgert wrote: On Mar 02, 2025, Eben King wrote: [...] ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f   082   064   006    Pre-fail Always   -   146369262 146 million read-errors.

evolution recovery

2025-03-04 Thread Russell L. Harris
On my Debian 12 desktop, I installed Evolution, primarily for easy access to HTML messages. Also, it gives me a second mail address. Several days ago, Evolution began causing a "Mail Authentication Request" popup which prevents me from downloading new messages. The likely impetus for the trou

Re: shall I use the latest opensource software?

2025-03-04 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 8:23 PM tim wade wrote: > do you use the latest big data software in debian 12? including > hadoop-3.4, hive-4.0, spark-3.5 etc. > > I am asking this is b/c I still keep using the older versions for them. > They are hadoop-3.3.6, hive-3.1.3 and spark-3.4.4. > > I am just no

shall I use the latest opensource software?

2025-03-04 Thread tim wade
do you use the latest big data software in debian 12? including hadoop-3.4, hive-4.0, spark-3.5 etc. I am asking this is b/c I still keep using the older versions for them. They are hadoop-3.3.6, hive-3.1.3 and spark-3.4.4. I am just not sure if i will upgrade them to the latest. Thanks

Re: Firefox adds a controversial ToS

2025-03-04 Thread Richmond
"Jonathan Dowland" writes: > On Sat Mar 1, 2025 at 11:50 AM GMT, Frank Guthausen wrote: >> If this questions affects the DFSG, Debian must take a position. The >> obvious elephant in the room is the question whether Firefox can be >> part of the official distribution. The compatibility question b

Re: Help: second monitor not dectected

2025-03-04 Thread Felix Miata
Brieuc Desoutter composed on 2025-03-04 10:02 (UTC+0300): > I have installed Debian 12.9 from the live image on my System76 Oryx Pro > (Intel Xe Graphic + nvidia 4060) yesterday. > I have NOT installed the nvidia-driver yet (previous attempt failed and I > re-installed fresh), only i915 and nouvea

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I am writing to propose the creation of a new Debian branch that > offers a stable release every year, as opposed to the current 5-year > cycle. This would be particularly beneficial for educational > institutions, where a balance between stability and up-to-date > software is crucial. As menti

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/4/25 à 16:46, Yassine Chaouche a écrit : I'd even extrapolate to other websites like the stackoverflow network, where most people are here to get answers, not to give answers. From my point of view and personal experience IRC is a little different. Maybe because it's in realtime, sometimes

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/4/25 à 16:06, Nicolas George a écrit : Yassine Chaouche (HE12025-03-04): I see this as a "forum" mode It is not called “forum mode”, it is called “egoistic mode”, because the poster expects other people will read their messages and provide help but is not willing to do the same for others

Re: Monthly FAQ for the Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20250301)

2025-03-04 Thread David
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 at 13:26, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2025-03-04 at 03:24, Anssi Saari wrote: > > David writes: > >> It would assist everyone to follow changes to this "Monthly FAQ" > >> document if it can be hosted somewhere that provides diffs, such as > >> salsa.debian.org, or wiki.debian.org

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 03:47:11PM +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: [...] > So in order to do this you need to stay subscribed (to eventually send mail), ...as has been stated elsewhere, you don't need to be subscribed to send mail to debian-user@ Which is pretty heroic these days, so I commend t

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread Nicolas George
Yassine Chaouche (HE12025-03-04): > I see this as a "forum" mode It is not called “forum mode”, it is called “egoistic mode”, because the poster expects other people will read their messages and provide help but is not willing to do the same for others in return. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Monthly FAQ for the Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20250301)

2025-03-04 Thread Lee
On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 3:24 AM Anssi Saari wrote: > > David writes: > > > It would assist everyone to follow changes to this "Monthly FAQ" > > document if it can be hosted somewhere that provides diffs, such > > as salsa.debian.org, or wiki.debian.org. > > I don't see a problem with just posting th

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/4/25 à 14:49, Eric S Fraga a écrit : What are you trying to achieve? I just do not understand what it means to be subscribed but not want to see any messages. Seems like a contradiction? Not necessarily, no. I see this as a "forum" mode where you only receive e-mail for discussions in wh

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread Leandro Noferini
The Wanderer writes: [...] > The context I'm aware of in which such a thing would be useful is > mailing lists which condition some capability (posting, or access to > read the archives, or some other such thing) on being subscribed. > > AFAIK, debian-user does not do this, so I don't see a reas

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-03-04 at 08:49, Eric S Fraga wrote: > Response below/inline for email Leandro Noferini wrote: > >> (original email sent 4 Mar 2025 at 12:20) >> >> Ciao a tutt*, >> >> is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain >> subscribed but to not receive anymore messages? >

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 01:49:31PM +, Eric S Fraga wrote: > Response below/inline for email Leandro Noferini wrote: > > (original email sent 4 Mar 2025 at 12:20) > > is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain > > subscribed but to not receive anymore messages? > > W

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread Eric S Fraga
Response below/inline for email Leandro Noferini wrote: > (original email sent 4 Mar 2025 at 12:20) > > Ciao a tutt*, > > is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain > subscribed but to not receive anymore messages? What are you trying to achieve? I just do not understand w

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 12:20:03PM +0100, Leandro Noferini wrote: > Ciao a tutt*, > > is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain > subscribed but to not receive anymore messages? Asking for help to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org just lists "help", "subscribe" and "unsu

Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread Leandro Noferini
Ciao a tutt*, is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain subscribed but to not receive anymore messages? -- Ciao leandro Ho tutto chiaro in testa ma non riesco a dirlo signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Monthly FAQ for the Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20250301)

2025-03-04 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-03-04 at 03:24, Anssi Saari wrote: > David writes: > >> It would assist everyone to follow changes to this "Monthly FAQ" >> document if it can be hosted somewhere that provides diffs, such as >> salsa.debian.org, or wiki.debian.org. > > I don't see a problem with just posting the diffs.

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/4/25 à 12:20, Leandro Noferini a écrit : Ciao a tutt*, is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain subscribed but to not receive anymore messages? Just create a mail filter that drops mail coming from debian-user@lists.debian.org, but remember to remove it if you dec

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 12:05:29PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > > > That is a terrible idea. > > Not if done right. > > “Not if done right” has been said of all terrible ideas in the history > of terrible ideas. Well, yes. I tried to sketch what I mean by "do

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > > That is a terrible idea. > Not if done right. “Not if done right” has been said of all terrible ideas in the history of terrible ideas. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Firefox adds a controversial ToS

2025-03-04 Thread George at Clug
On Tuesday, 04-03-2025 at 21:05 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sat Mar 1, 2025 at 11:50 AM GMT, Frank Guthausen wrote: > > If this questions affects the DFSG, Debian must take a position. The > > obvious elephant in the room is the question whether Firefox can be > > part of the official distribut

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 11:48:18AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Choose your version string wisely. This is very important. To reiterate: change the version string if you change things. Not doing so is indeed a terrible idea :-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 11:43:49AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > > Very often, getting the newer Debian source package (just apt-get source) > > and building it (dpkg-buildpackage) after having installed the build > > dependencies (apt-get build-depends) is all

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > Very often, getting the newer Debian source package (just apt-get source) > and building it (dpkg-buildpackage) after having installed the build > dependencies (apt-get build-depends) is all you need to have a self > built backport. You get a Debian package, so t

Re: Debian-live can not be build missing package

2025-03-04 Thread Matthias Böttcher
Hi Hans, which version of lb are you using? I am using the version from the Debian package live-build from "bookworm": $ lb --version 20230502 The first thing I learned with that version from "bookworm" was that I had to set all config directives regarding the distribution to "bookworm" bec

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 11:33:44AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > > To add to all those very good points: if you need newer software (besides > > the security updates, which Debian is extremely good at providin in a > > timely fashion, BTW), there are the backpor

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 10:03:32 + Andy Smith wrote: Hello Andy, >You have addressed your email to debian-user. Here we are all just >users of Debian like you. We cannot make changes to the policies of the >Debian project directly. OP also sent the same request to Debian Developers. Whilst ther

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > To add to all those very good points: if you need newer software (besides > the security updates, which Debian is extremely good at providin in a > timely fashion, BTW), there are the backports. And it's not that difficult > to contribute to that. If one needs s

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-04 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/3/25 à 16:40, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 15:44:11 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: dpkg won't install missing dependencies. gdebi will. So will apt-get and apt. It's just undocumented. apt install ./filename.deb apt-get install ./filename.deb The pathname MUST begin

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Nicolas George
Sarbjit Singh Sandhu (HE12025-03-04): > I am a 10th class student from India and want a feature request for the > purpose of changing my school computers from windows to linux. Hi. The obstacles to schools using Linux instead of Windows are not about Linux's features. The obstacles are school pro

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 09:57:10AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 02:16:23PM +0530, Sarbjit Singh Sandhu wrote: > > Dear Debian Developers, > > > > Hi, [...] > As it is, the creation of a major stable release takes a long time. > Once released, there's a two year cycl

Re: Firefox adds a controversial ToS

2025-03-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat Mar 1, 2025 at 11:50 AM GMT, Frank Guthausen wrote: If this questions affects the DFSG, Debian must take a position. The obvious elephant in the room is the question whether Firefox can be part of the official distribution. The compatibility question between Mozilla ToS and DFSG needs to b

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 02:16:23PM +0530, Sarbjit Singh Sandhu wrote: > Dear Debian Developers, You have addressed your email to debian-user. Here we are all just users of Debian like you. We cannot make changes to the policies of the Debian project directly. If you wanted to discuss your id

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 02:16:23PM +0530, Sarbjit Singh Sandhu wrote: > Dear Debian Developers, > Hi, There are developers here but this is mostly a list for Debian users. > I am a 10th class student from India and want a feature request for the > purpose of changing my school computers from wi

Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Sarbjit Singh Sandhu
Dear Debian Developers, I am a 10th class student from India and want a feature request for the purpose of changing my school computers from windows to linux. I am writing to propose the creation of a new Debian branch that offers a stable release every year, as opposed to the current 5-year cycl

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-04 Thread Van Snyder
On Tue, 2025-03-04 at 10:02 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > Van Snyder writes: > > > The nvidia-driver package from non-free apparently doesn't work > > with a Quadro K2200. > > But you didn't check? The release notes tell a different story. After I installed it,inxi -G reported the nouveau driver

Re: Monthly FAQ for the Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20250301)

2025-03-04 Thread Anssi Saari
David writes: > It would assist everyone to follow changes to this "Monthly FAQ" > document if it can be hosted somewhere that provides diffs, such > as salsa.debian.org, or wiki.debian.org. I don't see a problem with just posting the diffs. Preferably in unified format.

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-04 Thread Anssi Saari
Van Snyder writes: > The nvidia-driver package from non-free apparently doesn't work with a Quadro > K2200. But you didn't check? The release notes tell a different story. > NVidia recommends the 570 driver. They always recommend the latest.