On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 02:28:48PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > That would be for KB, but Tera is the third power of that. So it's about
> > three times 2.35%, if you throw away the higher order terms (we physicists
> > are cheap, like that ;-)
>
> I think you meant 4th power, but what's a fac
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> Is there a tool somewhere that lets me monitor a single process?
>
> Something I'd run, passing it a PID and which would display a regularly
> refreshed status of what the process is doing: MB/s read from the
> filesystem, MB/s written to the filesystem, maybe even with mo
Max Nikulin writes:
> Gene, my congratulations. You have managed to derail the discussion
> another time.
And you have managed to clutter the list with yet another pointless rant
against Gene. Please put him in your killfile and move on.
--
John Hasler
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA
On Tue, Jan 7, 2025, 8:09 AM Stefan Monnier
wrote:
> Is there a tool somewhere that lets me monitor a single process?
>
> Something I'd run, passing it a PID and which would display a regularly
> refreshed status of what the process is doing: MB/s read from the
> filesystem, MB/s written to the f
On 07/01/2025 15:51, gene heskett wrote:
stuck very early in the boot process waiting for orca to come alive.
Gene, my congratulations. You have managed to derail the discussion
another time. I suspect, this kind of deviations is the reason why you
are so successful in earning bans.
Good lu
On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 09:35:03 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 08/01/2025 00:08, Haines Brown wrote:
> > I have no idea how to use pipewire. Do you simply run the comand $ pipewire
> > to
> > get an interface like alsamixer?
>
> Why are you trying to start pipewire manually? Systemd should do it
On 1/7/25 06:01, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
I also ran into the Orca and brltty Hell problem Gene described
Just a reminder: this thread started as "new computer arriving soon".
Gene hijacked it and Orca is off-topic even in this subthread. Read the
subject.
Gene does not remember what he
On 08/01/2025 00:08, Haines Brown wrote:
I have no idea how to use pipewire. Do you simply run the comand $ pipewire to
get an interface like alsamixer?
Why are you trying to start pipewire manually? Systemd should do it for
you as a part of user session. It is not an application with GUI.
Y
On 07/01/2025 21:08, Stefan Monnier wrote:
Something I'd run, passing it a PID and which would display a regularly
refreshed status of what the process is doing: MB/s read from the
filesystem, MB/s written to the filesystem
Just some ideas, perhaps to be discarded after evaluation.
It seems io
On Tuesday 07 January 2025 03:42:44 pm George at Clug wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 08-01-2025 at 07:15 Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > These packages were pointed out to me a while back as a possible
> > alternative to virtualbox. While doing a bit of work on the new machine, I
> > did a quick sear
On 1/7/25 15:12, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
These packages were pointed out to me a while back as a possible alternative to
virtualbox. While doing a bit of work on the new machine, I did a quick search
using both of those terms in Synaptic Package Manager, also updating a couple
of files
On 1/7/25 17:00, Charles Curley wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jan 2025 11:09:06 -0800
Kushal Kumaran wrote:
I point people to http://www.tarsnap.com/GB-why.html which is where I
was first enlightened.
Mr. Tarsnap forgets something. The reason disks are addressed in powers
of two has to do with mathematic
On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 02:59:47PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
Mr. Tarsnap forgets something. The reason disks are addressed in powers
of two has to do with mathematics. Every hard and floppy disk out there
has flaws. To get around that, data is divided into sectors, and
checksums calculated. Do
On Tue, 07 Jan 2025 11:09:06 -0800
Kushal Kumaran wrote:
> I point people to http://www.tarsnap.com/GB-why.html which is where I
> was first enlightened.
Mr. Tarsnap forgets something. The reason disks are addressed in powers
of two has to do with mathematics. Every hard and floppy disk out ther
"Roy J. Tellason, Sr." writes:
A pointer to any documentation on these so I can get a good idea of how to set it up would also be
helpful.
As already mentioned libvirt is definitively the way to go but the documentation is not easy to
digest. At the time (2020) I picked some parts from the
On 1/7/25 21:42, George at Clug wrote:
# export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin
# apt install qemu-system libvirt-daemon-system virt-manager
# adduser libvirt
# adduser kvm
I never had any problems without being member of group 'kvm'.
But maybe that's because I do everything KVM related through
libvirt.
On 1/7/25 21:15, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
These packages were pointed out to me a while back as a possible alternative to
virtualbox. While doing a bit of work on the new machine, I did a quick search
using both of those terms in Synaptic Package Manager, also updating a couple
of files a
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 15:15:14 -0500
"Roy J. Tellason, Sr." wrote:
>
> [...] These searches each returned a nonntrivial list of
> packages, but none of them was named kvm or qemu, so I must be
> missing something here. Can any of you guys help me out?
The package names switched some years ago II
On Wednesday, 08-01-2025 at 07:15 Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> These packages were pointed out to me a while back as a possible alternative
> to virtualbox. While doing a bit of work on the new machine, I did a quick
> search using both of those terms in Synaptic Package Manager, also updat
On Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 3:12 PM Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
>
> These packages were pointed out to me a while back as a possible alternative
> to virtualbox. While doing a bit of work on the new machine, I did a quick
> search using both of those terms in Synaptic Package Manager, also updating
On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 03:15:14PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> These packages were pointed out to me a while back as a possible alternative
> to virtualbox. While doing a bit of work on the new machine, I did a quick
> search using both of those terms in Synaptic Package Manager, also
These packages were pointed out to me a while back as a possible alternative to
virtualbox. While doing a bit of work on the new machine, I did a quick search
using both of those terms in Synaptic Package Manager, also updating a couple
of files and installing one other package. These searches
Kushal Kumaran (12025-01-07):
> I point people to http://www.tarsnap.com/GB-why.html which is where I
> was first enlightened.
Mostly something anybody should learn in junior high school physics,
freshman high-school at worst.
Except for one point: “this is a special case”. Except they are wrong
> That would be for KB, but Tera is the third power of that. So it's about
> three times 2.35%, if you throw away the higher order terms (we physicists
> are cheap, like that ;-)
I think you meant 4th power, but what's a factor 1024 between friends.
Stefan
> Merchants insist on decimal only because their cash registers have no
> buttons for hex digits.
>
> 0xA exp 0xC is 0xE8d4A51000
> 0x2 exp 0x28 is0x100
> 0x100 / 0xE8d4A51000 = ~ 0x1.197D938
>
> So it's 0x19.8 per 0x100 loss for us hard working programmers when the
> scroo
On Tue, Jan 07 2025 at 11:05:11 AM, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 10:44:00AM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:
>>On Jan 07, 2025, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> > 8 TB is not that big. I have a external 18 TB drive. It is 18 TB in name
>>> > only though! After fromating it with ext4 it only ha
On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 10:15:18AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
> Thanks to your heldp, with the help of the correct guide it seems I was able
> to install
> pipewire successflly. To apply it I had to reboot.
I did the reboot and this was the result
> $ pipewire
> [E][00304.248813]
On Jan 07, 2025, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 10:44:00AM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:
> > On Jan 07, 2025, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > > > 8 TB is not that big. I have a external 18 TB drive. It is 18 TB in name
> > > > only though! After fromating it with ext4 it only had 15TB of usua
On 1/7/25 11:31, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 11:05:01AM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
>> On 1/7/25 10:44, Dan Purgert wrote:
>>> On Jan 07, 2025, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> 8 TB is not that big. I have a external 18 TB drive. It is 18 TB in name
> only though! After fromating
Hi,
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > 18TB "on paper" is usually 18 * 1000^4 bytes, so if you convert this
> > into "computer units" is ~16.37 * 1024^4 bytes.
Dan Purgert wrote:
> I thought the variance from TB -> TiB was 10%; or have
> I gotten it backwards?
Merchants insist on decimal only because the
On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 11:05:01AM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
> On 1/7/25 10:44, Dan Purgert wrote:
> > On Jan 07, 2025, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >>> 8 TB is not that big. I have a external 18 TB drive. It is 18 TB in name
> >>> only though! After fromating it with ext4 it only had 15TB of usuable
>
On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 11:05:11AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
TB is about 10% larger.
Hmm. Even talking about this is hard. The unit TiB is 1099511627776
bytes while the unit TB is 1 bytes. That is, when talking
about a drive, expressing it in TB is about a 10% larger number beca
On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 10:44:00AM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:
On Jan 07, 2025, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> 8 TB is not that big. I have a external 18 TB drive. It is 18 TB in name
> only though! After fromating it with ext4 it only had 15TB of usuable
> space.
18TB "on paper" is usually 18 * 1000^4
On 1/7/25 10:44, Dan Purgert wrote:
> On Jan 07, 2025, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> 8 TB is not that big. I have a external 18 TB drive. It is 18 TB in name
>>> only though! After fromating it with ext4 it only had 15TB of usuable
>>> space.
>>
>> 18TB "on paper" is usually 18 * 1000^4 bytes, so if yo
On Jan 07, 2025, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > 8 TB is not that big. I have a external 18 TB drive. It is 18 TB in name
> > only though! After fromating it with ext4 it only had 15TB of usuable
> > space.
>
> 18TB "on paper" is usually 18 * 1000^4 bytes, so if you convert this
> into "computer units"
On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 10:25:02AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 09:08:52AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
Is there a tool somewhere that lets me monitor a single process?
Look at pidstat in the sysstat package. I think you'll need multiple
tools to get everything you're l
On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 09:08:52AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
Is there a tool somewhere that lets me monitor a single process?
Look at pidstat in the sysstat package. I think you'll need multiple
tools to get everything you're looking for, e.g., maybe lsof.
On Tue, 07 Jan 2025 09:08:52 -0500
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> Is there a tool somewhere that lets me monitor a single process?
>
> [...]
>
> `strace` gives enough data to compute at least part of the above info,
> so it seems doable, but I haven't seen any reference to such a tool
> pass by my des
> 8 TB is not that big. I have a external 18 TB drive. It is 18 TB in name
> only though! After fromating it with ext4 it only had 15TB of usuable
> space.
18TB "on paper" is usually 18 * 1000^4 bytes, so if you convert this
into "computer units" is ~16.37 * 1024^4 bytes. If you then make an
ext4
Is there a tool somewhere that lets me monitor a single process?
Something I'd run, passing it a PID and which would display a regularly
refreshed status of what the process is doing: MB/s read from the
filesystem, MB/s written to the filesystem, maybe even with more detail
(actual file name(s) ac
On 1/7/25 06:01, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
On Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 3:51 AM gene heskett wrote:
On 1/6/25 22:13, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 06/01/2025 14:09, gene heskett wrote:
On 1/5/25 21:21, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 05/01/2025 23:28, gene heskett wrote:
As for bug number, I'm not the OP, ju
Max Nikulin writes:
> On 04/01/2025 17:19, gene heskett wrote:
>> One does get tired and short tempered when a copy/paste error post
>> bullseye that wrecks udev is said to not be fixed before
>> trixie. Thats not excusable when the fix is a one line patch we've
>> all done years ago. Get it from
On 1/6/25 22:13, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 06/01/2025 14:09, gene heskett wrote:
On 1/5/25 21:21, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 05/01/2025 23:28, gene heskett wrote:
As for bug number, I'm not the OP, just a canary.
Then ask the author to add the bug number. Tell them that without a
link you were not b
On 6 Jan 2025 10:52 -0500, from d...@djph.net (Dan Purgert):
>> Message from syslogd@piglit at Jan 5 02:49:03 ...
>> kernel:[1064021.151590] [Hardware Error]: Corrected error, no action
>> required.
>
> This just looks like a notification sent to TTY1 (or where-ever you've
> got an active sessio
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