Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Albretch Mueller wrote: > But how do you strace a program saving the output (of the stracing) > in a logfile while you also save that program's output without making > it part of the stracing? man strace says: -o filename Write the trace output to the file filename rather t

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-25 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/25/23, Greg Wooledge wrote: > If you want to see what a process is doing, there's strace. It can > even be told to follow all the children of a process (strace -f). But how do you strace a program saving the output (of the stracing) in a logfile while you also save that program's output w

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-25 Thread jeremy ardley
On 26/12/23 10:05, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I don't know why Z was used instead of UTC or GMT. Probably to save space, and save some ink if a schedule was printed. ZULU time is military, primarily NATO. The world is divided up into alphabetic time zones using the NATO phonetic alphabet with a f

Re: cups error -- SOLVED

2023-12-25 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 09:36:44PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: I copied the file to another computer in the LAN, ran LaTeX and dvips, and sent it to the same printer, but the file hung at the same spot. Any chance you can use `pdflatex` instead of `latex + dvips`? Have you tried to manually c

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-25 Thread John Hasler
Jeff writes: > I don't know why Z was used instead of UTC or GMT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time#Time_zones -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: cups error

2023-12-25 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 09:36:44PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: I copied the file to another computer in the LAN, ran LaTeX and dvips, and sent it to the same printer, but the file hung at the same spot. Any chance you can use `pdflatex` instead of `latex + dvips`? Have you tried to manually c

Re: cups error

2023-12-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I copied the file to another computer in the LAN, ran LaTeX and dvips, > and sent it to the same printer, but the file hung at the same spot. Any chance you can use `pdflatex` instead of `latex + dvips`? Have you tried to manually convert the PS to PDF before sending to the printer? or to conve

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-25 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 8:43 PM Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > On Mon Dec 25 12:01:59 2023 "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > Yes - that's the obvious way. I set my machines to /etc/UTC (or > > /etc/GMT) and leave them there. No daylight saving time, no offsets - > > all logs unambiguous. That's why (

cups error

2023-12-25 Thread Russell L. Harris
On a desktop debian 12.2 amd64 system with HP_LaserJet_P3010_Series_48E436 (ethernet), LaTeX documents composed with Emacs frequently print only up to a certain point (it varies with the document), and CUPS prints the error message: ERROR: typecheck OFFENDING COMMAND: known xdvi displays the d

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-25 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Mon Dec 25 12:01:59 2023 "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > Yes - that's the obvious way. I set my machines to /etc/UTC (or > /etc/GMT) and leave them there. No daylight saving time, no offsets - > all logs unambiguous. That's why (worldwide) radio logkeeping is/was > in UTC. If you're travelling i

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 12:35:37PM -0600, Mike McClain wrote: > root@RPI4b3:~> tty; echo $SHELL; echo "' " | hd For the record, $SHELL does not tell you what shell you're currently in. It tells you which login shell your account uses, or which shell you'd *like* to use when you launch a new xterm

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-25 Thread Mike McClain
root@RPI4b3:~> tty; echo $SHELL; echo "' " | hd /dev/tty1 /bin/bash 27 20 0a |' .| 0003 mike@RPI4b3:~> tty; echo $SHELL; echo "' " | hd /dev/tty6 /bin/bash 27 20 0a |' .| 0003 mike@RPI4b3

Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-25 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
As Andrew did, I also CC'd.. :) On 12/25/23, 이 강우 wrote: > how to clone apt repository to newest only? > Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most recent > packages from that distribution if you give it the "reposync --newest-only" > option, but Debian doesn't seem to

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 03:35:04PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/21/23, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > So... this is interesting. Apparently timedatectl doesn't simply look > > at the target of /etc/localtime. There's a DELAY before the value is > > correctly reported. This tells me that tim

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-25 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/21/23, Greg Wooledge wrote: > So... this is interesting. Apparently timedatectl doesn't simply look > at the target of /etc/localtime. There's a DELAY before the value is > correctly reported. This tells me that timedatectl is in communication > with some process (perhaps PID 1, I don't k

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 11:31:09PM -0600, Mike McClain wrote: > I've examined /etc/inputrc, .inputrc, /etc/bash.bashrc, ~/.bashrc, > /etc/profile, /etc/profile.d/*, ~/.profile, ~/.bash_profile, OK, you've examined them... and... what did you *see* in them? When did this problem start to happen, a

Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 12:21:29PM +, �� wrote: [Copied to the poster because they may not be subscribed] > how to clone apt repository to newest only? > Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most recent > packages from that distribution if you give it the "repo

how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-25 Thread 이 강우
how to clone apt repository to newest only? Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most recent packages from that distribution if you give it the "reposync --newest-only" option, but Debian doesn't seem to be able to do that. What can I do?

Re: Dealing with SPAM.

2023-12-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [...] (it's actually a logistic function [1]). > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_function > Looking forward to Yet Another Of Those Nerdy Monster Threads ;-) Since it's happening periodically with about the same participants, shouldn't we rather try to mod

Re: Dealing with SPAM.

2023-12-25 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 11:19:43AM +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 25.12.2023 um 08:56:41 Uhr schrieb Brad Rogers: > > > On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:50:13 +1100 > > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > Hello Zenaan, > > > > >OMG money! I, being Debian User it > > > > The best thing to do is ignore SPAM.

Re: Dealing with SPAM.

2023-12-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 11:19:43AM +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 25.12.2023 um 08:56:41 Uhr schrieb Brad Rogers: > > > On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:50:13 +1100 > > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > Hello Zenaan, > > > > >OMG money! I, being Debian User it > > > > The best thing to do is ignore SPAM.

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 12:24:55AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/25/23, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 24 Dec 2023 at 23:05:53 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> On 12/18/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > ... > >> Why would %S be in the range > >> second (00..60), instead of (00..59)?: > > > >

Re: Dealing with SPAM.

2023-12-25 Thread Marco Moock
Am 25.12.2023 um 08:56:41 Uhr schrieb Brad Rogers: > On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:50:13 +1100 > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Hello Zenaan, > > >OMG money! I, being Debian User it > > The best thing to do is ignore SPAM. > > If you *must* reply, don't quote the whole thing and send it to the > list

Dealing with SPAM.

2023-12-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:50:13 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote: Hello Zenaan, >OMG money! I, being Debian User it The best thing to do is ignore SPAM. If you *must* reply, don't quote the whole thing and send it to the list *again*. Thank you. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-25 Thread Tixy
On Sun, 2023-12-24 at 23:05 +, Albretch Mueller wrote: [...] > Why would %S be in the range second (00..60), instead of (00..59)?: To support leap seconds [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second -- Tixy